probably my favorite rap album 2011

I haven't seen any talk about Boldy James' "Trappers Alley: Pro's and Cons" on here. I've listened to it maybe 300 times in the past few months. his show here in october was amazing. Let's discuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9vg7eAanDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-s8fTkDtKg&hd=1

The first video is dope. He's not the most spectacular rapper but i'll listen to it. I bet i'll need several listens to get into it.

can we make this a year end goon thread? i'm kinda bummed that i can't pore over the gun sounds thread to remind myself of what albums/mixtapes i still need to hear.

i mean if it's really important to have a dedicated boldy james thread i won't infringe upon it w/ my idea

i would like to read a list of yr top rap albums tbh

it's not very long, that's why i need to listen to more!

feel like tpp's Goon Report: Live From The Sandbox is called for here

yeah srsly

tempted to post all the corny rap shit i loved this year just to troll/get you dudes to school me

http://www.youngmoneyhq.com/images/gudda-guddaville-front.jpg

kinda caught off-guard but i can def. make a 2011 goon list

i really feel though that this year has been less and less about tapes and more about individual songs (possibly true every year but hey)

what im saying is i've never heard of 'boldy james' unfortunately but i'm british and only really hear about rap music thru u goons etc.

THE GOON REPORT: END OF YEAR EDITION

i will think about this when i'm sober tomorrow

nice of them to take notice right before the marlins broke ground. they can really save the taxpayers some money before things get out of hand.

(whoops)

it's not like anyone in the states has heard of him either. he's straight 'regional thug' status.

best sandbox dn yet

even tho deej will harbor severe butthurt over REGIONAL THUGGATE for the indefinite future, we at least got our 2012 thread title out of it

Boldy tracks are okay? I like the production but the rapping is sorta monotone flat and undistinguished. Could be a grower.

i think rolling white girl thread is >>> regional thug but w/e

its def a grower -- hes def not a flashy rapper in any way. if any of yall are feeling cormega, he's like a midwest version of that

my problem w/ regional thug is the implication that as a category none of these artists deserve your attention, or that they're the fucking rap equiv of jerk music or something, or that they are permanently exiled to being less-covered than g-side when imo there's a huge variety w/in that stupid little bubble

but interpret it as me being 'butthurt' even though that makes no sense if you want

i'm ok with this being a year-end thread, as long as at least a few of you are willing to discuss /check out the rapper mentioned at the top; his album is one i've come back to a lot

'regional thug' is just straight up disrespectful frankly

who's the producer on these boldy james tracks? it's got a nice premier feel to it.

well at least the second one does.

"Concrete Connie" is produced by Brains, "I Sold Dope All My Life" is produced by The Plug. I don't really hear the Premier thing on "Concrete Connie" too much. Maybe it's because I know Boldy's from Detroit but to me this is in that same vein of cracked/distorted-street-soul music as Dilla's overall vibe w/out sounding particularly dilla-ish

ok i really like these thanks deej or whoever you are

thnx yeah i recommend the entire record tho. this shit will have you sagging your karl kanis and walking with a gangster lean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfU0JCnszA

my problem w/ regional thug is the implication that as a category none of these artists deserve your attention, or that they're the fucking rap equiv of jerk music or something, or that they are permanently exiled to being less-covered than g-side when imo there's a huge variety w/in that stupid little bubble

but interpret it as me being 'butthurt' even though that makes no sense if you want

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:47 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

oh c'mon you are so butthurt.

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

super butthurt

rolling racks on racks >>> rolling regional thug >>> rolling white girl

but all fine choices

gonna be super fucking glad to see gun sounds go

'rolling i really need to have sex with tip thread' could be the rap thread OR the gay thread

btw i was on wikipedia and typed in 'boldy james' to see if he had an entry and all the mentions were from him being on songs with the cool kids and asher roth and big sean. this is a guy deej is excited about?

rolling tumblr white plz

everytime I hear 'china white' in a rap song nowadays I picture whiney going 'TUMBLR WHITE!' and making bugeyes

rolling tumblr white (up in the club)

'tumblr whites' has kept popping into my head in the last coupla days making me smile i admit

rolling tumblr white plz

― dayo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:11 PM (15 minutes ago)

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:24 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

it is a pejorative when a wide variety of artists are lumped into a category called 'regional THUGS' while certain particular artists are put into noble categores like 'hard working weedheads' and 'blue color rappers.' im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart for history & for perspective, that doesn't make me 'butthurt' & any time someone is angry you guys throw around 'butthurt!!!' like you've scored major points

btw i was on wikipedia and typed in 'boldy james' to see if he had an entry and all the mentions were from him being on songs with the cool kids and asher roth and big sean. this is a guy deej is excited about?

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah i'm as shocked as anyone. on his record there's even a cool kid guest verse (an asher roth one would have been distracting but i don't really have a problem w/ michael rocks, i actually really liked "cell dope" from earlier this year)

also fwiw i disagree that regional thug = has a big following, it's obviously true of a few artists on there but it isn't the case of boldy james particularly -- i mean he has fans, but not like the jacka does where he can live off regional money (at least not yet) nor do i see why having been smart enough to develop a scene regionally makes one a 'regional thug' as if its a permanent albatross to be hung around their necks

im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart

this is why you're hilarious fyi

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:24 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

it is a pejorative when a wide variety of artists are lumped into a category called 'regional THUGS' while certain particular artists are put into noble categores like 'hard working weedheads' and 'blue color rappers.' im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart for history & for perspective, that doesn't make me 'butthurt' & any time someone is angry you guys throw around 'butthurt!!!' like you've scored major points

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:18 PM (16 minutes ago)

i kind of agree with this. more than anything using 'thug' perjoratively in this context attempts to dismiss gangster rap as a whole as dated or irrelevant; in a sense maybe it is, given what's popular on the charts and judging by what's getting the high-profile critical love

it might've been an inadvertent slight

anyway, stevenson dude otm

this is why you're hilarious fyi

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:33 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

why is that hilarious to you? these are artists trying to make careers & i certainly dont think they're above making fun of, but this was irresponsible imo

no, stevenson dude off tm

its not like im the only one thinking this
https://twitter.com/#!/Combat_Jack/status/141013331304660992

oh who are you kidding, you will definitely watch that show that's on tv

xp

i'm actually going in blind on this one, forks -- not out of any nobility or anything, just haven't exactly been keeping up

like i would normally loathe this sound but penderass' twangy rambly warblescreams somehow cut through the bullshit for me.
actually just listening to this is making me hate myself. i may have to retract.
nah, i'll just hate myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ybORSPlhY
just like dude's voice, regardless how processed it is.

when i've liked t-pain it's been more in spite of his voice than anything. and he seems to have run out of ideas a while ago.

Why are forks and jord taking about a turnt sanga itt

it was my fault -- just bringing up dec albums

t-pain's a talented dude and i never really got sick of him but the six(!) advance singles off this record have been such a mixed bag that the album could go either way -- tbh i'm much more optimistic about jeezy turning in an enjoyable 'same thing he always does' album

kendrick lamar kind of giving me pusha t vibes in his words promising a personality that his voice can't deliver on

i think that was promo only

i probably shouldve googled this first - its released on ORMOLYCKA

buyin now

a rapper i know once sent me a package for his latest mixtape that had a CD and a gold-painted cassette -- was very bummed when i asked him and it was just for show, not a real playable tape of the record

that's how bummed i was when I bought the Freeway and Jake One album and tried to spend the money that came inside the package

Al you might like kendrick more as a part of his crew Black Hippy. They did some group recordings, theyre fun to hear bounce off each other

rolling softserve thread
rolling underwater crybaby thread

i should go back to that mike album, i remember being somewhat underwhelmed but it came out around the same time as quik's i think and obv my listening was dominated by quik's which was way better

well the term does have legs now apparently...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soft+serve

xpost

when was deej underwater?

what is this year's throwback gem a la 2010's 'marcberg'?

rolling paid, famous & sad thread

al :-)

if only you could've worked a whiney ref into that

what is this year's throwback gem a la 2010's 'marcberg'?

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 10:54 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Most ppl would prolly say Action Bronson, but I'm more into the Kool G Rap

rolling cloud thread

yeah that KGR was freakin sweet

yeah i was gonna guess action bronson

i meant a new dude with a throwback NY style as opposed to an older mc, like AB, but thanks for reminding me to listen to that g rap i almost forgot about that

er AB is an example of the former obv, poorly placed parenthetical

I mean, G Rap kind of raps like Roc Marci now, so I think you'll like it!

sounds like a much better look than jay imitating kanye at least

feel like next year thread title should be worldstar inspired

rolling asian ratchetness thread

etc

do NOT remember posting in this thread the other day. how r we going to do the EOY goon report - do ppl want to do a poll?

altho obvs no EOY thing can be done before the french montana + waka tape drops...

forbez dvd >>> worldstar imo

btw I vote for new rolling thread title to be "blue color rappers"

i <3 kendrick lamar and his based introspectiveness

been jamming that schoolboy q too and his verse on the asap tape is real nice

franch has a tape with waka, then with three 6 mafia the next week

^^ very wavy xmas

per usual martorialist killed it
http://themartorialist.blogspot.com/2011/12/token-best-rap-songs-of-2011-list-post.html

wish i hadn't missed this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipX6I6oDto

not really feelin that *shrug*

not really feelin you

that beat knocks like gin rummy, raps are dope, what more are you looking for

i apologize for not liking a song you like? *shrugsford brimley*

apology not accepted. listen to it 30x on loop or tell me what you think of keedy black & sess 4-5's "I Luv Dat Boy" & report back

man boldy james rules. def feel the mobb deep by way of detroit vibe

that martorialist singles list is what the fuck is up

obv

i knew m@tt would like the boldy james "pumpin gas" track, that shit is like ground zero 90s rap-a-lot shit, down to the standoff storytelling rap at the dice game that is so straightforward on a narrative level ("he shot (BANG BANG) I shot (RATATATAT) -- as you can see i cold smoked his ass") and yet the rapping itself is not in any way cartoonish

martorialist rules

"E-40 ft. B-Legit - 43"

Yeah thats my sleeper pick of the year, my most listened to track on any of the Revenue Retrievin series. B Legit is pure muscle on that.

although i halfheartedly defended currensy from whiney on this thread (and "this ain't no mixtape" is still >>> his releases this year) ive totally had the same issues w/ both him & jacka this year

although i still like the alchemist/currensy tape the most

rolling codeine abuse thread