What dub have you been listening to recenty?

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Someone on ilm proper a while back recommended the Revolutionaries' Earthquake...Whilst good, it's a bit solid and unexperimental.

I've been enjoying African Dub Chapters 3 & 4, and Cry Tough Dub Encounter Chapter 3 (what is it with chapter 3s?)

Bob Six (Bob Six), Saturday, 2 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I've actually been listening to more straight instrumentals than dub lately esp. Studio One's Downbeat The Ruler and Scorchers 2 ("After Christmas" on the latter may be one of the finest moments ever in music.) Leggo Dub, like Earthquake on Hot Pot, is more in the vein of African Dub 3 and probably better (most of it versions Mr Isaacs, noice) with all the wacky bells and whistles and dog barking, etc.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 December 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there anything more disappointing than the Flying Lizard's dub album?

You'd think this is a group who'd really draw on all their ambient sounds, instrumentals and studio textures to make a really good dub album, and its just plain dull. Grrrr...

Bob Six (Bob Six), Monday, 4 December 2006 08:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Leggo Dub seconded. Also been listening to Studio One Dub, Yabby You Dub It To The Top, Paul St. Hilaire w/ Rhythm & Sound Showcase

amon (amon), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The Sound of Macka Dub.

ian (orion), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

studio one scorchers 2 is excellent, yes

vahid (vahid), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I just listened to Nonplace Urban Field's "Westernized Dub", which is among my top 10 dub tunes ever.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Is there anything more disappointing than the Flying Lizard's dub album?"

This has been sitting basically unlistened to in my "to listen" pile for a year and a half at least so yeah I'd say it probably is.

The Motion comp of King Tubby & Friends stuff is really good btw.

On the non-dub tip though, the Tower extravaganza has short-circuited my purchases of new records, but Deliver Me From My Enemies and Life Goes In Circles are both on my list of stuff to get. Studio One Groups may have a bit too many familiar tracks for me to care about tracking it down (do "Pick Up The Pieces", "Happy Land", "Baby Why" really need to be anthologized again?) although generally this is some of my favorite stuff ever.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Kode 9 & The Spaceape - Memories Of The Future (dub-step!)

if that's not a serious answer I've been dipping into "Macro Dub Infection Vol. 1" and "Dub Chill Out" (compilation with the big names on...) but not that much, I'm a dub n00b. And Trojan Jamaican Superstars Box Set/Trojan D.J. Box Set/Trojan Reggae Duets Box Set which are not dub anyway...

And if anyone can find me (ysi?) the vocal version of "Telephone Love" by (???) I would be stoked. I love that tune. Found it in Hard Wax and jumped for joy but it was only the instrumental :(


Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting comment about the "trojan dj" box set.

i think the backing tracks on that comp are much more interesting, dubwise, than most of the tracks on dub I and dub II.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

probably not so "interesting" more like I'm being way flippant and have forgotten what non-vocal tracks are actually on it ;-)

I think I'm going to go reaquaint myself right now...

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

(and yes I know dub != just no vocals but I am pretty n00b still (any interest I have to start with is via dub-techno and the one reggae night they have locally I go to...)

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this good?

JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

dub cliche - the extra disc that comes with the latest adrian sherwood 'solo' album, becoming a cliche, in fact i have listened to the dub disc a lot (LOT) more than the proper album. its like all the good on-u trademark sopnic tricks all wrapped up in one fine sounding set. much better than his previous 'solo' album that's ferrsure.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"Is this good?"

Oh God Lord yes. It's fantastic.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"I've been enjoying African Dub Chapters 3 & 4...."

Have you tried No Bones For The Dogs?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to Jean Ritchie a lot lately. What a haunting voice.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

See question and answer above.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

saw a couple Attack cds recently, this one: http://www.bigupradio.com/productimages/S80712.jpg

and another but kinda worried I already have the tracks on other stuff

also is White Mice any good?

http://www.basicchannel.com/images/records_297/brwmlp-2a.jpg

amon (amon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

damn I need that Joe Gibbs

amon (amon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

the other 2 attack cds

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=24184

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=23310

the dillinger one looks good

amon (amon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to the two Blackbeard reissues on Astralwerks (in the USA).

Phil Freeman (unperson), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been enjoying Rupie Edwards' Dub Basket vols 1&2, which come, if you can find them as an unappealing-looking Rhino single CD package.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't do it.

http://rockersradio.blogspot.com/

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

^__^

I realized I already have that "Agrovators(sic) Meets the Revolutioners(SIC!?)." It's okay, mostly horn-heavy instrumentals rather than dub.

amon (amon), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

haha when I ripped my Trojan Dub Box Set in iTunes, the track names it culled from cddb.com or whatever had FOUR different spellings for them, amon. one was like "Revorutioniers." I think a Japanese guy submitted the original names.

hm (modestmickey), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't do it.

http://rockersradio.blogspot.com/

From that blog, this album cover is very WTF:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6575/2929/1600/IMG_2169.jpg

Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It's okay, mostly horn-heavy instrumentals rather than dub.

That reminds me, can anyone think of records with a lot of dubbed-out trombone? I heard a track on the radio that was great, no idea who it was.

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a memory of hearing a dub album in the mid 80s round a friend's house which seemed to be based around 'The Good, Bad, and the Ugly' with dubbed-out mariachi style effects.

I've never been able to track down what it was.

Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"That reminds me, can anyone think of records with a lot of dubbed-out trombone?"

Rico Rodriguez Man From Waireka Dub!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think there's also Sly & Robbie's 'Burial Dub' on that 'Dub Chill Out' CD mentioned above.

Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

why so imported :(

JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Because Island is being really sluggish about reissueing this stuff. :(

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Starting this thread has proved quite expensive: I've so far ordered the Leggo, Joe Gibbs and Wareika Dub CDs (quite cheap of Amazon UK 'new and used')

Still not as bad as when I read the girl groups thread on orginal ILM.

Bob Six (Bob Six), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

this is fuckin good:

http://www.rootz.net/gussiecd01.jpg

i only have a bad rip of it where the tracks overlap and cut out in the middle of each song

amon (amon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

From that blog, this album cover is very WTF

Haha, the expression on her face.

Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

which studio one comps are must-haves? gonna try to make it to a tower this weekend

amon (amon), Friday, 8 December 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Rockers

JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha all of them! Best of Studio One and Full Up: More Best of Studio One on Heartbeat are absolute must haves esp. since they each have 6 bonus tracks and pristine sound. Studio One Rockers, Studio One Roots and Studio One Scorchers 1 & 2 on Soul Jazz are all pretty essentially as well. Sometimes the Soul Jazz and Heartbeat stuff repeats a track, but it's pretty rare as there is so much Coxsone stuff to choose from.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

DO NOT GET "Studio One Soul"! I really liked the "Women", "Roots" and "Lovers".

Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh that's mean. I think both the Studio One Soul comps are great, easily as good as that Blood & Fire Darker Than Blue.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I REALLY like Express Yourself off studio one soul. It manages to sound like early happy mondays.

The whole comp gets a bit insipid, though.

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Also off-topic: what was the Hustle! Reggae Disco one like?

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

AMAZING!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW this looks fucking amazing.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"limited to 1000 copies" - wtf reissues shouldn't be limited, that's oxymoronic

couple more recs for the original post:

http://www.mikeydread.com/myshop/Images/african_anthen_deluxe.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/79/Scientist-RidsTheWorld.jpg/200px-Scientist-RidsTheWorld.jpg

amon (amon), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf reissues shouldn't be limited, that's oxymoronic

If you ever want to be really angry, google "Shadoks Music."

ian (orion), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, none of the "Studio One Soul" tracks seemed to really add much to the originals (well, besides the obvious fact that they're reggaefied covers), the whole thing felt very bland. "Hustle!" is totally great tho, agreed.

Daniel Reifferscheid (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 9 December 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, this Joe Gibbs record is really great.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a really badly silkscreened horace andy shirt the other day that i'm pretty sad i didn't buy now

strongo (temp.) (sandboxhulkington), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i always forget how pretty that love joys record is.

violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah as much as I love "Uptown Ranking", the Love Joys really put Althea & Donna to shame. Those two albums are just gorgeous.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw the white mice cd but it was the versions. rather have the vocal one.

man s0und g4rd3n has a buttload of wackies stuff in but i couldn't tell what was good: meditations, junior delahaye, african roots, etc.

amon (amon), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i'm always kinda suprised by how stocked up s0und g4rd3n's reggae section is. (their other "world music" sections suck ass though.)

violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

btw wackies article in new wax poetics not very enlightening (shocker).

violent j (sandboxhulkington), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Perry article was disappointing too. Thanks repeating every cliched thing everyone already knew, guys.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Every Wackies thing I have is great, but Reggae Goodies 1 & 2 is probably the best starting point/sampler.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Skullflower (& other Matthew Bower projects)
Sleeparchive
Matt Valentine
Alex Smoke
Burning Star Core
ooioo
& Cat Power

john cameron octigan (cameron octigan), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

how is white mice?

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I really really like it, but I love early digital dancehall and Waterhouse style deejaying.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to the versions and boy are they great! i love 1980s digital dancehall too so i'm def buying this. i'm not familiar with waterhouse deejaying though... any links?

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

well, i'll probably buy the vocals over the versions.

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It's that heavy echo-ed flat style of singjaying a la Tenor Saw/Nitty Gritty/Courtney Melody that's ubiquitous in early 80s dancehall.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that shit

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the rhythms on that white mice are awesome.

found used copies of

http://www.reggaeportugal.com/images/Cornel%20Campbell%20I%20Shall%20Not%20Remove.jpg

http://www.rounderstore.com/images/catalog/1166135122_0.JPG

!!!

amon (amon), Friday, 29 December 2006 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that Cornell Campbell collection. I also love that Michigan & Smiley album.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I picked up Deliver Me From My Enemies last week btw and it's great stuff.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

saw that too but figured i had enough yabby between jesus dread and dub it to the top.

what's a good dennis brown album?

amon (amon), Saturday, 30 December 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The two Niney collections are tops: Some Like It Hot and Open The Gate. The Blood & Fire collection which is really just a late Joe Gibbs 70s album with a bunch of bonus cuts. It is good but uneven and not as essential as the other Joe Gibbs produced stuff (Visions, Words of Wisdom.) I would start with the first Niney collection and move on from there.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The new B&F Yabby You is a bit like the Dennis Brown one actually. It's great, but if you feel like you have enough of their stuff it's one of those things you can wait to find cheap.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

well, just ordered from ebreggae.com:
Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
Lee Perry - Blackboard Jungle Dub
Lee Perry & Niney the Observer - Producers

I decided to give Lee Perry another chance, and Blackboard Jungle Dub seems the place to start. Augustus Pablo is amazing psychedelic dub, and I can't wait to get that again. been years since I listened to him.

hm (modestmickey), Saturday, 30 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks alex

amon (amon), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"I decided to give Lee Perry another chance, and Blackboard Jungle Dub seems the place to start."

Yeah it's a great place to start if you don't listen to anything anyone else says.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean that's a great album, but as I said on that other thread if you want to be convinced of Perry's genius that's not the first place I would turn.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

perry's productions for other people > his own albums

violent j (sandboxhulkington), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i realize this is neither a new nor controversial statement, but i feel it bears repeating

violent j (sandboxhulkington), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah also Blackboard Jungle Dub is at least as much a King Tubby dub album as it as Perry dub album. If you want a Perry dub album then get Super Ape (which is the only Perry record that might contradict Violent J's equation above, I guess.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

revolution dub > blackboard jungle dub

amon (amon), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard the Auralux reissue on a decent stereo? That version sounds miles better than the old Clocktower/RAS versions.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 30 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to Steven Bernstein's "Dybbuk Dub," if that counts.

RSLaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

got horace andy "good vibes" and "full up: best of studio one vol.2" used today. think that's it for me for a while, xmas bonus and gift money all used up.

amon (amon), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i've only ever heard the track "good vibes" by horace andy, not the album (or whatever it is) -- but it's a great track!

hm (modestmickey), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/album_detail.php?id=BAFCD019

amon (amon), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
listening to joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs

amon (amon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Next Blood & Fire set will be U-ROY 1969-75. Not sure how much more of that period of U-Roy I need, but could be some great productions which'll make it worthwhile.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Slow release time otherwise. No new Auralux, no new Hot Pot. But in addition to reissueing Brand Pressure Sounds is putting out this which is probably fantastic. Brand is really really underrated btw.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That should be re-reissuing Brand. Also curious about this Milton Henry on Wackies, but I can probably wait on that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

listening to joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs joe gibbs

me too me too

JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://musicimages.liquiddigitalmedia.com/0/6/5/8/58560.gif

atm (atm), Thursday, 15 February 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i now have the 'no bones..' one mentioned above and african dub 1-4, state of emergency and a studio one comp called "the mighty two". all of it is great

didn't know about that "brand" album

amon (amon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow that's a lot of Joe Gibbs dub. I have the first five you mention and then a couple of vocal/deejay collections. Compared to Channel One or Bunny Lee, Gibbs feels kind of underrepresented in the reissue market actually although apparently he's been pretty difficult to work with so that may be entirely his fault.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

the mighty 2 comp isn't dub so much as various gibbs/et productions

amon (amon), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I thought that it might be. I might even have that one actually haha. You mean the Heartbeat one, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a Soul Jazz one that's pretty good too, Roots of Dancehall or something like that (there are like twelve compilations called Roots of Dancehall aren't there haha.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

yea heartbeat

amon (amon), Saturday, 17 February 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Burial - Burial

X-101 (X-101), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

still haven't heard them, are they good? the only dubstep i've heard and liked so far is slaughter mob from that old 'grime' comp.

amon (amon), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

If Sub Oslo releases a record this year I will be so happy.

sandboxing helena (mrgn), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link


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