Prelude thread to the the thread about doing an ilx protest record

Ok so I mentioned on fb that with ilx having a mixture of beautiful little LULU musicians and angry young occupiers, maybe we were suited to making a protest record. (tbh the idea came to me when discussing 'There's Power In The Unions' with my dad and thinking, you know who does a killer version of that? An ilxor, that's who. But sb me for breaking the aero code if y'all want.)

So do you think this could work?

Anyone want to join in?

Could people with no musical talent but w/ good oratory speech making skills hook up w/ the opposite? To litter the record w/ spoken word jams like Lulu had?

Disco hits or garage rock guitar freakouts about unfair banking insitutions or inequality or whatever you wanna rage about?

Feel like it needs to be called #OCCUPY YR MIND AND YR ASS WILL FOLLOW

If you wanna talk about it in private or send me anything, my email is samuelpooley [at] gmail.com and I'll make a proper thread when stet continues his fine work and ILX proper is back up.

I have mixed feelings about this, to be honest. I like the idea, but I feel like it runs the risk of self-clowning and ilx zinginess meaning that it may end up seeming more like a send-up of the protest movement rather than a contribution/amusing addition to it.

although you could call it "A Kitten for Hitler" as a tribute to Ken Russell

I would definitely do a monologue, though, if someone wanted to work with me. Or maybe I could just recite Alexandra Kollontai texts over some sound effects records. Yeah, that'd work.

I have mixed feelings about this, to be honest. I like the idea, but I feel like it runs the risk of self-clowning and ilx zinginess meaning that it may end up seeming more like a send-up of the protest movement rather than a contribution/amusing addition to it.

― emil.y, Monday, 28 November 2011 14:03 (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Give Morbs his own song and we should be fine.

I'm with emil.y on this. Hugely mixed feelings. My initial reaction was "hell no, please just don't." Because it's something that could so easily be done so badly and the typical ILX zinginess / clowning thing could just make it so horrible.

But that could just have grown out of a personal sense of powerlessness and being-overwhelmed. And maybe writing and contributing a song could help sort through those THOTS.

Back when I used to write "lots of songs", I'd do a fair bunch of 'political' content.

These days, I look back at some of them and find most of the ones we 'did't do' were horibly direct and misinformed, and awful songs to boot.

The ones that did work related the political to the personal.

“People who talk about revolution and class struggle without referring explicitly to everyday life, without understanding what is subversive about love and what is positive in the refusal of constraints, such people have a corpse in their mouth”
― Raoul Vaneigem

Down with a world in which the guarantee that we will not die of starvation has been purchased with the guarantee that we will die of boredom.”
― Raoul Vaneigem, Revolution of Everyday Life

http://www.talent.uk.com/images/centrecol/products/thumbs/celebs/duncan_bannatyne_obe.jpg"I'm Out"
- Duncan Bannatyne, Revolution against Ordinary People with Business ideas that are badly thought out and cannot make a profit

we don't have to do it; jeez. i just thought it could be fun & interesting.

I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying I'm a bit conflicted about it.

We were just answering your questions.

I would definitely be up for creating a soundscape if emil.y wanted to recite over the top of it? That would be cool.

it would :)yes,

lol dunno how me typing 'yes, it would :)' ended up looking like that.

Yes, FT, I'd definitely be up for that!

D'oh, it took me a moment to work out that FT was ~me~. But yes, I will get out the noises-making things at the weekend. (It'd probably be easier for you to recite over existing music, rather than you recite and then send me the aiff files? How would you prefer to do this?)

Yes, I reckon me reciting over music would probably work best, to get the cadences. As I said upthread, I'll probably use a pre-existing text, as I imagine my own political writing would end up sub-sixth form at best.

THAT IZ BEEYoND MIE KEN. ST. KUSTARDS HAZ NO SIXF FOeRM.

i think this sounds interesting

i would totally be down

ok, who is furnace? rev? and yay :D

i would like to try it; i am generally not a fan of overtly political music so i think it would be a good challenge

i promise to try to not be snarky/zingy, this will also be a good challenge

i am generally not a fan of overtly metallica music and yet i loved our lulu

so ilx + anything = awesome

i am furnace mane

LJ isn't on dis ting, is he? I just had a thought that me and him and maybe crüt could do an Art Bears/Slapp Happy/Henry Cow cover. That would be pretty amazing.

Art Slap Cow, maybe?

i feel like you need to track him down for a guaranteed masterpiece.

I am down for this, I have been meaning to be more politically angry in my music and stop singing about...well I don't usually write lyrics, so this should be interesting

yeah I am down for this although it has been a long time since I wrote anything explicitly political.

how did ned go about a deadline/others w/ previous ilx records? would, say, feb 1st be about right considering we have a christmas record already on the go?

bump

bump.

feb 1 is fine with me