Rachid Taha: Diwan 2

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Any of you critic-jacks heard this? He's chosen appropriate songs by Umm Kulthum and Abdel Halim Hafez to cover. I've been indifferent to most of what I've heard by him, but might get this one. (This one's for people like me, I think.)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Haikunym on vacation?

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 4 December 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Or buying Chanukah gifts for his kids or something... No other Rachid Taha experts here I guess...

cornyrocker (DC Steve), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xhuxk likes Rachid Taha, but I haven't seen xhuxk around recently.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/article.php/20061110095950759

"Traditional North African instruments and strings are to the fore, making this collection of tracks a gentle tour de force with a lighter more playful treatment"

"The story behind Diwan 2 is Rachid’s chance find, in his parents’ attic, of a recording of Ecoute-Moi Camarade, which he chooses as the opening track introduced by the melodic, romantic sound of Stephane Baudet’s plaintive trumpet and the voice of Miquette Giraudy, better known for her expertise on the synthesizer. But there’s also humor and laughter in the intimate throaty quality of his vocals and idiosyncratic chatty moments, as if he were there in your living room; the last track, Ghanni Li Shwaya, ends with a typical gravelly growl.

Happily, the prolific Rachid doesn’t totally deprive us of his own compositions, he gives us Josephine and Ah Mon Amour; his voice seems more comfortable with these and with the rocking percussion provided by Hossam Ramzy, and Kadi Bouguenaya’s reed flute, the gasbar.

But sadly in the UK we are to be deprived of the accompanying DVD, Ma Parabole d’Honneur, of his recent tour of Algeria, undertaken, after an absence of 20 years, at the behest of our own dear Andy Kershaw. It seems this is only available in France"

cornyrocker (DC Steve), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Haikunym was over on the ILE sandbox dc thread posting pictures of cats or something. But has he heard Taha.

cornyrocker (DC Steve), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I made a post on this thread but it never took! I said something like 'havent heard this but it sounds like fun.'

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

This is rather good on 5/6 listen.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 16 December 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't think I was going to like "Agatha" at first, but it gets interesting. Some of the other stuff reminds me a little of Abdelli, but that may just be my way of saying it sounds Algerian, since I don't know that much Algerian music. It's that "flute" (or whatever it specifically is), that very circular sounding flute that sounds so North African. Really nice accompaniment throughout the album.

Meanwhile, I have been walking around town trying to whistle "Gana el Hawa" (an Abdel Halim Hafez song he covers here). A good song to cover. It seems like kind of an obvious choice, but I haven't actually heard many covers of it. (I do wish he had ditched the choral accompaniment on the two Egyptian songs, but oh well, it's certainly true the sensibility of the originals to keep it. It's just a typical aspect of Arabic music which I atypically dislike.)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 16 December 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been listening to this all weekend, but I was already a big Rachid Taha fan.

I love Agatha -- I happen to be listening to it now. But, really, the whole album is fun. Do you know much about the songs?

Vornado (Vornado), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to this a lot myself, playing it right now.

I am familiar with the two Egyptian songs ("Gana el Hawa," a song originally sing by Abdel Halim Hafez, which is by the same Egyptian composer Jay-Z took that "Big Pimpin'" riff from, and "Ganeli Sheway Sheway," a song from an Oum Kalthoum move from the 40s). I am a lot less familiar with Algerian music than Egyptian music, but I've been picking up bits and pieces about the other songs from reviews and interviews with Rachid Taha. Also, I like Rachid Taha's own couple songs on here.

I have not been a Rachid Taha fan, but I am very impressed with what he, and everyone involved, have done on this. It maintains a lot of the actual flavors of North Africa and Egypt in the timbres and the rhythms. (On the other hand, I keep coming across reviewers who describe the whole thing as rai, which is either partly or entirely wrong. I think the North African styles are chabai or other forerunners of rai.)

If you don't have a legit. copy, the actual CD is worth having for the lyrics.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

If I really really really liked Cheb Khaled's Hada Raykoum, but I haven't dug much other rai (too many cheesy synth arrangements) what should I buy next? Either recent or vintage is fine.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Diwan 2! No, I don't really know. No cheesy synth arrangements. If anything it might be too acoustic for people, but I think it comes off sounding pretty fresh. But as for rai, Vornado probably knows more rai than I do.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Looking at old cassettes, I think I liked Chaba Fadela's You Are Mine and Chaba Zahouania's Nights Without Sleeping, but not sure either are still in print.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I really don't know enough about rai. But I got really turned on by [i]1,2,3 soleils . . .[/i], which is a live record from a 1999 joint concert by Khaled, Faudel, and Rachid Taha, and functions as something of a greatest hits for each of them at the time. Taha put it together, his band was the core of the backing band, and Steve Hillage served as music director, so the arrangements are not cheesy at all -- live strings, very few synths.

If you can, get the real, French 2-disk version, not the 1-disk abridgement that gets sold here as [i]Khaled Taha Faudel[/i]. That's not bad, but it drops some of the old rai songs, and it doesn't have enough Faudel on it (his voice is amazing).

But I also agree that [i]Diwan 2[/i] is definitely worth a purchase. It is really well-recorded -- great textures, great instrumentation (although not especially rai instrumentation -- no accordion), great feel. Taha's last record was very rock and very explicitly political. This one is much lighter, and more subtle -- a long celebration of hybrid francarabe culture, which presents embracing your confusion and syncretism as an implied alternative to Islamism and Salafist rigor.

In the pop rai vein, I liked Cheb Mami's [i]Delalli[/i] and any of the recent Khaled records.

Vornado (Vornado), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

So is Diwan2 quite in the same general vein as was the first Diwan?
('Ve got the first one and loved it too:)

tiit (t**t), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, Diwan 2 is in the same general vein as the first Diwan. There are some important differences, though. I like the production better -- warmer, less glossy, lots of acoustic guitar, actually, very little electric guitar and a lot less oud/mandolute than usual. Brass on some songs. Also, the overall cast of the songs is more French -- lots of singing in French or French-Arabic hybrid, including the two Taha-Hillage originals. About half the songs would have fit fine on the first Diwan, but the other half -- which are front-loaded -- are much more about including the European roots than the songs on Diwan. By the same token, the new record is probably a little less dance-y than the first Diwan, although there are some great dance cuts on it.

If you like Taha in general, I can't imagine your not liking this. It's very much of a piece with his work, though it has a radically different emphasis than Tekitoi? or any of the last few records.

Vornado (Vornado), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanx!

tiit (t**t), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link


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