hey, remember that guy that found that velvet underground acetate for 75 cents...

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there might have been a thread on this on old-ilm, i was away for a week.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 30 November 2006 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link

high bidder is "forest gnome" with no feedback. i wonder if it's reed or cale.

― akm (akmonday), Thursday, 30 November 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

YSI?

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 30 November 2006 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link

But why didn't the deal with Universal (who were going to buy it and release it as a CD) happen?

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 30 November 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

will he ship media mail without the sleeve in a flattened, inside-out priority mail box? and i don't feel like paying for insurance.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Thursday, 30 November 2006 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link

according to the eBay listing, that Universal rumour wasn't true.

― sean gramophone (sean gramophone), Thursday, 30 November 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Recording corporations are a bit funny about buying stuff they 'own the rights' to.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 30 November 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I smell another VU & Nico reissue with bonus tracks. If we can just dig up some alternate mixes from the Chelsea Girl sessions.

― MarkRichardson (Mark R), Thursday, 30 November 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems a little insane to just sell to highest bidder without any guarantee it will be taken care of

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

What, in a "Godfather 2" kind of way?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

smashmyvuacetate.com

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha,

(in the questions):

"Does ownership of the acetate come with a copyright to manufacture?"

answer:

"I do not know the answer to this question. Any intellectual copyright attorney should be able to assess this for you once they learn of the situation. The facts are straighforward: this acetate contains unreleased performances and/or mixes of songs which, as compositions, are otherwise held property and for which only alternative published commercial performance recordings have been available for 40 years. As to whether the tracks which are primarily alternative mixes (and thus the same performances with perhaps the odd overdub) are covered under the publishing of the released mixes of those particular recordings, I do not know. Your attorney and those of the publishing holders will likely know best."

i.e. "uh, NO"

― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems a little insane to just sell to highest bidder without any guarantee it will be taken care of

Exactly. I also found it curious in reading the accompanying article that it seemed like the first thing on this guy's mind after he got it was the idea of selling it. I mean sure, plenty of money will be had, but that would not have been the first thing on my mind.

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It should be.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

where do we think the bidding will stop?

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd definitely sell it over the possibility of never hearing some alternative versions of songs I've already heard a billion times and don't really need to hear again.

― ... (50 Bourbon St), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

whenever i think of this story i think of the poor dude who sold it for 50 cents or however much the collector scum found it for.

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

75 cents, duh

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Thursday, 30 November 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha I am the current highest bidder.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 30 November 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i can only assume that someone with a spare $16000 to buy this piece of crap can also afford a cedar box to make it listenable

― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Thursday, 30 November 2006 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't afford $16,000. I only bid that much so I could say so on this thread.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 30 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

someone on here should bid $50,000 now to make it more spectacular more quickly

― ... (50 Bourbon St), Friday, 1 December 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah but it wouldn't go up to $50,000 until someone else bid $49,900 or something.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 1 December 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I have been outbid already. Some fucker's put in $17,000.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 1 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

warren, from what i understand, is by no means "collector scum".

― sean gramophone (sean gramophone), Friday, 1 December 2006 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

collector scum normally hang on to their records

― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Friday, 1 December 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

'Winning' again now with a max bid of $17,187.63.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 1 December 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/sidebar/6/236/2547.jpg
How in the world were they making that sound?

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 1 December 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus, 17 grand and there's 8 friggin' days left. this will be interesting.

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

warren, from what i understand, is by no means "collector scum".

-- sean gramophone (sea...), December 1st, 2006. (later)

otm

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i was with the dude tonight we were kind of boggling at how high it had gotten... earlier in the day he said he'd be unhappy if it didn't top 10 Gs

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd definitely sell it over the possibility of never hearing some alternative versions of songs I've already heard a billion times and don't really need to hear again.
-- ... (noemai...), November 30th, 2006 10:31 PM. (later)

Presumably he's saved it to mp3?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 1 December 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ysi?

― jim (jim), Friday, 1 December 2006 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

you'd think by looking at their bidding histories you'd see that the guys willing to put 18 grand on the table for this would be some h-core mystical collectors steep'd in lore or whatever, but no, not rly. the marksurface01 guy should totally win! he has recently purchased, in the run up to this titanic struggle:

some bowling shoes
an old 12 on rap-a-lot
couple of dollarbin smiths singles
and 2x attache cases (hmmmm!)

― rrrrrtc (rrrrrtc), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah we were looking at his prior purchases and the metal attache cases were a real eyebrow-raiser! my theory is they're for the cash.

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Were those acetate bowling shoes?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i hope this doesn't just disappear into some asshole's archives. like the early black sabbath bootleg that i think wound up being bought by ozzy's people and most likely will never see the light of day.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

It doesn't include the copyright, what else can happen with it? As soon as the new owner makes any of this music public, he'll be in court! (and they'll know it's him, since this is the only known copy)

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the high bidder now is from the u.k. and only buys screamo singles.

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait, he only SELLS screamo singles.

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

stanM: he could be cool about it and make everyone on earth a tape on the DL. bogarting the acetate isn't cool.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

20Gs = they r entitled to bogart, clearly.

why arent u accusing 75 cent guy (and s1ocki even!) of the same?

― rrrrrtc (rrrrrtc), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

screamo dude is obv planning to listen to this while he's playing megaman

kudos

― rrrrrtc (rrrrrtc), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

So basically S1ocki is saying "Hi dere I can ask this fellow to make ILX an mp3 of this thing." Surely.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Who isnt?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll see! he's a cool guy. and not scum at all; this guy loves & is dedicated to vinyl in a wonderful, really pure way. he runs a record store / cake shop out of the back room of his apartment.

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

a record store / cake shop

This makes me so damn happy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

mmmm, record cakes...

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

it is my favourite store.

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't the acetate already leak?

http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3495078

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

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doesn't have the money in his hand yet

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Monday, 11 December 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hopefully he hasn't already posted the record then.

― sgh (sgh), Monday, 11 December 2006 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Course not. Ebay rules.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The story's not over yet:

http://www.obner.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=26921

"Ish" says:

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:08 pm

I was at the auctioner's store today and apparently the sale ended up being bogus.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 11 December 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

.. dude!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 11 December 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

excellent!

― Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Monday, 11 December 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, scuttlebutt is that record has not been sold.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

they'll just go down the list shooting out second chance offers. it will be interesting to see if there will be an actual paying customer willing to go above $100k.

― obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

yep, the $155K bid aint happening:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061211.UNDERGROUND11/TPStory

― obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

On the weekend Saturn received an e-mail from the supposed winner who said a friend, unbeknownst to him, had, as a lark, bid on the acetate using his (the supposed winner's) computer at work and account number. "Ohmigod, I'm so sorry," the e-mail read in part. "I can barely afford gas for my car" let alone more than $150,000 for a 40-year-old disc of acetone-covered aluminum.

A "friend"? Yeah, right.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/velvet-underground/25419

Here's a confused account of it!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

'the definitive version'

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone at the NME is drunk just copy pastes superlatives haphazardly into AP newswire stories and press blurbs.

― jw (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The mystery buyer has only been identified as mechadaddy.

― ian (orion), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.movieactors.com/freeseframes-1026/A-I263.jpeg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

What kills me is the "related" news item on that page that says Weezer have "become" the Velvet Underground.

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/velvet-underground/25444

OK, the final bid was fake.

The acetate contained the only definitive version, even.

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You watch - all of those bids were fake, and the guy will end up selling it at a loss for 50 cents.

― Deutsche Shitpump (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=12754

(with a picture of Iggy Pop at the moment)

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ish" posted this link:

http://www.montrealmirror.com/2006/121406/news2.html

― Bee (Bee OK), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It's back (from Pitchfork):

Oh boy, here we go again. As previously reported, Sunset Rubdown merch guy Warren Hill scored the supreme rock'n'roll artifact, an acetate test-pressing of an early version of the first Velvet Underground record, for $0.75. He put it on eBay, somebody named "mechadaddy" won it last Friday, and as mentioned in our year-end news wrap-up, "mechadaddy" turned out to be just some schmo whose buddy hacked into his eBay account. A deadbeat, as they call them on the wild frontiers of eBaynia.

But Warren's not daunted by one chump bidder, no no! He re-listed the acetate for auction today, but here's the catch: only pre-approved eBay users can bid, which means you have to e-mail Hill first. Info here.

And hot golly, it's only $0.99 right now! The best part: Dude's already making a profit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WARHOL_W0QQitemZ300060897304QQihZ020QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― Bee (Bee OK), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

this shit is so last week

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

when are they going to auction the cylinder recording of thriller pressed on michael jackson's dick??

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i would definitely be willing to break into my friend's account to bid $150,000 for that

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is he using eBay instead of some big auction haus?

― jw (ex machina), Friday, 15 December 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

this is still the crux of his dementia. can't you just shill it to the hard rock cafe?

― ian (orion), Friday, 15 December 2006 07:33 (seventeen years ago) link

oi, mechadaddy, stop it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6182113.stm

;-)

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 15 December 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yikes! This is all too much for me.

Maybe I ought to put on George Harrison.

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Saturday, 16 December 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I did a little noise reduction on the acetate version of "I'm Waiting For The Man"...

http://download.yousendit.com/1B55CDDB4151B272

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, are you making them all shiny shiny?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Like boots of leather?

Shiny's the wrong word methinks... how about borderline listenable? It's tough to get rid of that much surface noise without warping the music a bit.

I wasn't planning to do them all but if there's a particular track you'd like to hear I'll give it a whirl.

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I might have a bash at European Son later if I can find the time.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Bump

13 hours to go, current high bid approx. $25K, bidder ID kept private

http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WARHOL_W0QQitemZ300060897304

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 21 December 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Done!

US $25,200.00 - 0.75 = $25,199.25 for Mr. Hill! Sold for 33,599 times the amount he paid for it.

Which would have gotten a lot of headlines if only that fake crap hadn't happened last week. Now, it's "only 25,200"

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

PAYPAL FEES ARE A BITCH

― obi strip (sanskrit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone else have a bash at other tracks?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops. I forgot I was going to do that. No, not yet, although I may get around to it sometime.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAH! I DID THE SAME THING!!!! Hahahahahah

― Bimbler (Sourkraut), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

This is amazing: http://open.spotify.com/user/andyzax/playlist/7Gk5LAmxjb92qrJtnwTueK
"I Couldn't Hit It Sideways: 12 Excruciatingly Bad Velvet Underground Covers" - a Spotify playlist

― tylerw_sandbox, Friday, 30 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

haha

― nuhnuhnuh, Friday, 30 December 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

dave navarro - venus in furs

yeeeeeeeeeeecchh

― nuhnuhnuh, Friday, 30 December 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

Best part of that list is that one of my favorite albums from 2010 in on it: The Voices Factory. Dude who made the list (and those who hear it) can think what they want, but I've been saying for a while that this Italian group has made the best Velvets tribute ever. So, um, fuck you Spotify Playlist idiot.

Sometimes they're better than the originals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAP6rACzWsU&feature=fvsr

...and have the good sense to cover some of the best VU songs that nobody ever bothers with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX9wV1ePgPk&ob=av2e

Seriously, I played this album more than anything but Fucked Up in 2011. So there.

― dlp2917, Saturday, 31 December 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

The Bettie Serveert all-VU covers album is worth tracking down too.

― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 December 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty passionate about the Voices Factory thing, actually. Like it's allowed me to genuinely enjoy the VU catalog for the first time in years. I think at this point it's almost impossible for an American male to cover VU and do anything distinctive. Voices Factory hit it from this almost 1st-album-Slapp-Happy perspective that really kills. The band is far from perfunctory, and you never get a sense that they don't get it, or that they're being condescending. Song selection is generally perfect. They even do something worth hearing with Sister Ray. They ought to be getting awards, rather than snark...

― dlp2917, Saturday, 31 December 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

I couldn't listen to it sideways

Forgot about that Bettie Serveert album

― P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Saturday, 31 December 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

They ought to be getting awards, rather than snark...

http://www.imprintitems.com/sitewide/images/products/prodbigimgs/5860403.jpg

― Mordy, Saturday, 31 December 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/713EH3EFSSL._SL500_AA300_.gif

― P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Saturday, 31 December 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, this reminded me that I had a great album with some cool covers cued up on spotify Count's Rock Band: Do Not Listen If You Hate Coltrane or Maggot Brain

― P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Saturday, 31 December 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

doug yule's tide

― t. silaviver, Saturday, 31 December 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think there's anything else i once liked that looking back brings me more shame than that dave navarro album. ta be fair to me i was 16 and a slow developer. can't remember if i liked the venus in furs cover in particular, but i did think it was cool he was covering the vu.

― m. yeux, Saturday, 31 December 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

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