every time Beyonce opens her mouth to talk about this song, I think she gets dumber
― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link
but you can't mesh it with the buckwild crazy needy mad-eyes persona (cf deja vu etc), or the service-your-man one (cf cater 2 u, naughty girl, etc).
indeed, though for whatever reason submissive/needy solo beyoncé hasn't stuck as a persona in the way that shark-eyed businesswoman DC beyoncé did. i guess until now she's backed it up with some pretty no-nonsense beats.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link
no, dan's completely wrong, we have established exactly why it would be a bad idea for beyoncé (or any pop star doing a similar song) to openly talk about how it's a lie! it doesn't matter what she says in interviews, anyway.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link
What she says in interviews is irrelevant.
― sw00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd love Dan's take.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― sw00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― sw00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― sw00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― sw00ds (sw00ds), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link
This remark should be posted atop every rock critic's computer. It's probably the most compelling statement regarding a critic's obligation to delineate why an artist is or isn't worth his/her time.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― steve schneeberg (steve go1dberg), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
What complete and utter horseshit. Has this idiot NEVER heard other people's renditions of "And I Am Telling You" (including the one they all rip off, Jennifer Holliday's) and seen the glaring interpretive contrast between what every random screamer does (YELL YELL YELL YELL YELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE) and what Jennifer Hudson does (tender start, build in emotion, out of control bridge leading to a massively impressive phrase that shows breath control that Beyonce has never once exhibited in any of her singing)? This is completely setting aside differences in timbre; Jennifer Hudson has a darker, richer, rounder sound than Beyonce does. Also, Jennifer doesn't belt "Love You I Do" and she doesn't belt the verses of "Move"; that is saved for the coda. That nonsense was written by someone who is too busy jizzing over Beyonce's weave to give anyone else a fair shake (Anika Noni Rose could easily have outsung both of them had her big number not been cut from the movie, BTW, so this is not just the same argument from the "RAH RAH JENNIFER" perspective).
no, dan's completely wrong, we have established exactly why it would be a bad idea for beyoncé (or any pop star doing a similar song) to openly talk about how it's a lie!
Petulantly stamping your foot and shouting "I DECREE THIS, THEREFORE IT IS TRUE" is not a universally-accepted way of establishing a point, Lex.
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
you must not know 'bout me
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Lex, you do realize that there are different opinions from yours, I hope.
different opinions != ad hominem attacks. ilx is a fucking hive of incivility these days.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― steve schneeberg (steve go1dberg), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pompous Perry (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
ihttp://datacore.sciflicks.com/dr_strangelove/images/dr_strangelove_large_06.jpg
― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
"celebrated"
― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Not to interrupt or anything, but does anyone know which of the credited writers penned the lyrics, or was it a team effort of some sort? (and you can explain whether you think it matters)
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
I would say "feel free to continue reading whatever motives you want into what threads I decide to follow" but I have the sneaking suspicion that you're going to do that anyway.
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
this is complete bollocks though and either you know it, or you have read about four things i've written ever and thus have no licence to be talking shit about how i write.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link
YOU WILL.
And the company that will bring it to you is AT&T.
― elmo albatross (allocryptic), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd like to point out that Beyonce and crew lifted the whole falling melodic hook from Joan Osborne's "Poison Apples" song. Or not.
Either way, meep.
― Jubalique die Zitronen (juicefriend), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.planbmag.com/content/view/404/39/http://www.planbmag.com/content/view/434/39/http://alexmacpherson.livejournal.com/
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link