GY!BE's album 'Yanqui U.X.O.' is one of the greatest instrumental records of all-time

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cuz beloved was pretty fucking good

friday (lfam), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

lfam is Oprah and I claim my $10

jw (ex machina), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it was a disappointing recording of stuff that sounded great live before they fucked around with it in the studio.

But didn't Albini record Yanqui U.X.O.? And doesn't he normally just record the band pretty much as they normally sound live, sans wild production techniques?

Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

indeed he did

esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

better than beloved IMO

"Paradise"
"Song Of Solomon"
"The Bluest Eye"
&, her best and most recent book: "Love".

damn, i think i actually like "Jazz" more too.

colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

louis have you been getting your classical music info from geir

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Monday, 4 December 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i have never listened to it. but i bought the vinyl for $1 at housing works and resold it to other music for $8 store credit last week.

obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

just thought i'd share that.

obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not homeless or anything, i actually do quite well for myself. but i was enjoying a long walk and that was the direction i was going in.

obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Well you shoud appreciate it for $7 worth of your time then.

Wench (jim wentworth), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't mind them when they were used in the soundtrack for 28 Days Later, but I can't imagine ever wanting to listen to them again. I can't argue with their live sound... With all 8-9 people sawing away it was pretty dang impressive, but they desperately needed some kind of random element to shake them out of the predictable loud-soft-loud-shortwave voice-soft-loud routine. The closest they got was when the Labradford guys joined them on stage for one piece, but that was about it.

Anyway, that last Scenic album craps all over the entire GYBE output.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

back when i was just discovering indie music, i kept trying hard to appreciate the "genius" of this band, but i just couldn't stand to listen to the shit for more than 5 minutes. ned's anecdote = otm.

hm (modestmickey), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

One trick ponies, but when they got it right on F#A#~ a prety impressive trick. Just needed Scott Walker to sing on it and it would have been pretty much perfect.

Having said that nowhere near as good as 'It takes two'.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Once again Louis is guilty of having the enthusiasm and frame of reference of a nineteen year old rather than the cynicism and frame of reference of a thirty year old.

Enthusiasm is great.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Southall is correct!

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis enthusiasm deserves a place amongst the pantheon of Scrappy Doo, Mr Motivator, Ainsley Harriot and Orbital.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this one has LEGS.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

You're very weird these days, Dom.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

these days = 1986-2006

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that the title of the new Bon Jovi Best Of?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, weren't you also jet-lagged and sleep-deprived that night?

sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jet-lagged, no. A bit sleepless, yes, but come the fuck on -- you'd think a bunch as *loud* as them would actually do better. Elvis Telecom was at the same show I was and his description says it all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

But didn't Albini record Yanqui U.X.O.? And doesn't he normally just record the band pretty much as they normally sound live, sans wild production techniques?

-- Zachary Scott (ZachRScot...) (webmail), December 4th, 2006 12:02 AM. (Zachary S) (later) (link)

That is normally his intention, but it seems neither party was entirely happy with what they ended up with. I don't think they've spoken since (note that it was Hogan and not Shellac that invited them to Shellac ATP).

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Once again Louis is guilty of having the enthusiasm and frame of reference of a nineteen year old rather than the cynicism and frame of reference of a thirty year old.

it's the enthusiasm of a 19-yr-old (which is great!), but not the frame of reference! i have said this before, but what i really don't get about louis is that the stuff he says these things about is the stuff people my age and a bit older would have eulogised when they were louis' age! i am pretty sure that most 19-yr-olds do not listen to mansun or blur or godspeed whatsit. people who are 25 did, when they were 19.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ned,

i fell asleep during spiritualized once! but i don't think that necessarily means they are bad. i like spiritualized.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The problem here is, Matt, that I've fallen asleep at Spiritualized as well. At their WORST show I've ever seen them at. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

apologies to louis for posting as if he's not here btw. i am just genuinely bemused as to how this very specifically of-its-time british indie taste has somehow manifested itself in someone around half a decade too young for it.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex, it all started when I discovered a copy of Blur's '13' lying about my father's CD collection all those years ago...

He also had Spiritualized's 'Pure Phase', bought apparently on a whim, and Mogwai's first 3 albums. I started with them and worked my way inwards; now the 90's are by far my favourite and most comprehensively-owned decade in music! My knowledge of contemporary indie/alternative acts is much more sketchy, I'd say; retrospective discoveries are so much more satisfying than great new releases IMO.

Now, if we could only forget that bit about Bach...

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

retrospective discoveries are so much more satisfying than great new releases IMO

You have no idea how big of a trap this is.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Although, as I say that, it's my opinion that the greatest music is yet to be made, seeing as the artists of the future will have the entire history of recorded music to view, understand, and attempt to vault. Therefore, at some point, there will be a new release that destroys everything that has come before. It would, of course, be even sweeter if nobody paid any attention to it at the time, and I didn't find out about it for three or four years after it was released... :-)

xpost

A trap, eh? Hmm, it was only meant as a statement of personal preference...

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

now the 90's are by far my favourite and most comprehensively-owned decade in music

the 90s were amazing. i grew up in them after all, they made me! the best things about the 90s:

- commercial pop rave and eurobosh all over the charts
- trip-hop
- angsty female singer-songwriters who were not just angsty but arty and experimental and visionary
- both classic old-skool r&b, and the first stirrings of hyper-modern timbaland-driven r&b
- spice girls and britney spears

notice the LACK OF BLUR IN THAT LIST.

again i recognise the crate-digging for old stuff mentality, that's not so weird, but it normally gets applied to...60s-80s. the 90s is a bit fresh in people's memories.

hang on, louis, what did you like when you were 12/13?

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

also what do yr friends listen to?

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex I'm sure I recall you repping hard for Blur on a POX thread or something

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a bit of affinity with "retrospective discoveries are so much more satisfying than great new releases IMO" but it's like 80% to do with the possibility of getting whole albums for £2 or something

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

blur are one of those bands who i actually like quite a lot when i do like them, but when they're bad it's staring into the ABYSS OF AWFUL.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i could probably do a blur pox with not many problems. not going to though.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i always wanted to hear a blur song as good as girls and boys but i never did.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Therefore, at some point, there will be a new release that destroys everything that has come before.

there's one every year!

2006 = Joanna Newsom - WhYs allegedly...

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i think (hope) louis would really love ys!

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps Louis is just 5 years ahead of the curve and this kind of delerious rapture about pretty good Ride singles you sold for beer money when you were 20 yourself is the future (of cyclical English nostalgia) and not the Arctic Monkeys?

I'd snort but if someone had told me kids would still be wearing Nirvana t-shirts a decade on, and not 2006's version of Rave Pants... :(

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, from my 60's-80's crate-digging, nothing much has genuinely astonished and delighted me so much as my 90's material. I mean, you've got things such as Yes, Soft Machine, The Beatles (to a lesser extent), and Love in the 60's-70's, The Cure, XTC and Talk Talk in the 80's, but really musical technology and experimentation has progressed absolute light-years beyond what most older acts were capable of (this treads upon many, many toes, so let me say here that it's all just my own opinion and not my diktat).

When I was 12/13, I was deeply into The Cure (Pornography being my starter, an album I didn't see as dark or unlistenable but tuneful and imaginative) and XTC (NONSUCH), and I also loved early Pink Floyd, King Crimson and The Byrds. I still love all of them, but I have since found things I love yet more (not much in XTC's case, though). The only thing I liked as a child that I have grown to love yet more in my early adulthood is Steve Harley's greatest hits album, an absolutely spectacular compilation of intelligent, grade A+ pop.

My friends listen to very little that I do. Some are into their jazz big-time, some prefer things like The White Stripes and Sublime, others Belle and Sebastian, many are into classical, quite a few are trendy indie-kids who name-drop Clap Your Boy Most Likely To Wolf Steady, others are cooler indie kids who name-drop Les Savy Fav and Throbbing Gristle in the same sentence (these ones tend to have a music-taste most similar to my own, even if the overlap tends only to be in our immediately contemporary taste, and even then not particularly extensive). Quite a few are into shit like Wolfmother, emo, post-punk bollocks like the whole Razorlight thing, bad, commercial R&B, or sissy guitar queef such as Damien Gray. Some are rockists who espouse the overarching brilliance of The Rolling Stones and then declare that BRMC are the only contemporary act they have any time for. Nobody else likes Mansun. Where, I wonder, does this leave me?

P.S. I'd probably love YS, yes, based upon what I've heard. Although it probably could have done with more effects/computerised bleeps... :P

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The problem here is, Matt, that I've fallen asleep at Spiritualized as well. At their WORST show I've ever seen them at. ;-)

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), December 4th, 2006.

in fairness i should have added:

i was sitting down.

and mega-stoned.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

but i liked the one GYBE i have the skinny antennas one. i should get this yanqui one sometime.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway Louis loves prog tendencies & indie stiffness far more than me so yes he probably will...

I'd be interested to know if he thinks the recorded version sounds as fuck-awful as I do! And I'm not even the type to get bothered by such things usually but I can barely make it three songs in to Ys (record) without wanting to scream. I should upload that live stuff in the Ys thread really... the difference is like night and day.

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and nirvana <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< soundgarden, as any fule kno (my rockist BRMC friend introduced me to them, rockism clearly isn't all bad really) ;-)

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

'indie stiffness', explain!

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like your idea of "progress" in music, louis.

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

musical technology and experimentation has progressed absolute light-years beyond what most older acts were capable of

haha this is also indicative of my own tastes (by which I mean that I naturally have an affinity for futuristic-sounding blips and bleeps), which is why I listen to techno and house and r&b and hip-hop and pop rather than indie!!!!!

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I like Nirvana fine! (more than Sabbgarden anyway)

I'm just a bit wtf-ed at ver kids... at least they've kind of broken away with the whole EMO thing lately, or maybe even Nu-Rave, but it's been years coming, the Kurt-T-Shirt thing is a bit passe now I guess.

Of course Lex's kids (on the bus) do none of this but Grime really isn't that big in Hull you know?

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not grime so much as commercial r&b and hip-hop...rihanna, ne*yo, akon, beyoncé, pussycat dolls, 50 cent. QUITE RIGHT TOO.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link


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