http://prohibitiondj.com/
Forget CDs, they're distributing new release downloads to "top DJs".
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link
You cover your ass by putting whatever crap they give you about their band on your website (in a special ghetto-ized section of course) and tell them that their royalties will be based on their ability for you to recoup your investment (which in point of fact is NOTHING) but which you dress up to include promo costs, whatever, etc.
You promise them that while you offer nothing substantive in the way of actual promotion, that they will be gaining the advantage of the Sub Pop BRAND and hence the digital sky's the limit.
It beats a straight deal with some aggregator, if you are lucky enough to even get one, so you do it. If it takes off, it's because you had the Sub Pop brand. If not, it's because you suck and no one is interested.
C or D??
(I have actually noticed a trend of "profitless aggregators", which pleases me for the moment, if only because I have not figured out their angle).
Forgive the Sub Pop analogy, just a hypothetical, nothing against them. They are too busy still trying to answer for the Fluid.
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Who are these profitless aggregators? I know aggregators who take a much smaller cut than IODA, their claim being that they're just charging you a service charge, and not promising you all this futuristic digital marketing that IODA promises.
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.anthologyrecordings.com/
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link
And in a few years you'll all have thrown out the CDs and Vinyl will be on the wall. Sad but true.
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, labels like Time-Lag and Foxy D. are going to be just fine, and that's just a small tip of the iceberg from my own perspective.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link
The services that supply tons of stuff for a monthly fee have to get the content from somewhere. The labels will still serve a purpose there.
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM... I think I said in another thread, I live in NY and have been paying like $1000 per month for like 20 years to house all my CDs, records and yes tapes. I am thinking about moving and NOW all the stuff isn't worth half of what it might have been if I had ebayed it just a few years ago.
My worry with regard to this thread is principally the people who will get taken advantage of by this model, not the inevitability of the process itself.
But what I am getting is that Digital-Only releases are CLASSIC, yes?
That is very interesting I think.
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
i agree with dan that super hi-def files will eventually be fed into our brains like air and water. but i don't weep for the world's weirdo audiophiles now, and i won't weep for them then. normal people always have, and always will, choose convenience over fidelity. this explains 8-track tapes and the walkman and the ipod and pretty much every other form of dominant listening formats ever. and getting music is in fact getting more convenient and easy every day. i cheer for this.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Merge had the best thing, sell vinyl and include a CD-r. Even better, sell vinyl and include a code for DL or something. A lot of my friend's labels are talking about doing limited edition vinyl and download only.
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I agree that it will be digital-only sooner rather than later
the two things I worry about are -- 1) future format incompatibility2) hard drive crashes
I mean, I back my shit up, but still.
― dmr (dmr), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link
There is a debate that will rage regarding whether you want to have all the files yourself, or have them streamed. Being in various digital media industries, it's something that comes up. I can see a point where my entire music collection isn't even in my house, it's on several servers owned by some huge company who can afford both the security and redundancy to have my media on their hard-drives in some fire-proof, weather-proof building somewhere. Think about it, I already do it with my email. The chances of Yahoo losing my email are probably a lot less then losing it myself when my harddrive fails.
This all depends on bandwidth, of course. Untill it's good enough, the benefit of having the media in your house is the ability to use it when you want and not wait for it.
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
How does the digital sell for them at shows?
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link
I know a certain artist on a certain very famous label that was the largest single distributor of their records, selling 1200 of them for the famous label in question. This particular artist was buying them for $8 each too, so the label was making a huge profit!
I find that very depressing too...
Is anyone still going to be reading this? (Is this thing on?) Is there a way to go "nu" on this thread?
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link