how would an actual grown-up approach this kind of material in your opinion then?
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Unless you're a child-genius autodidact you shouldn't be singing about anything other than cars and girls.
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Tom Lamont
Albums
1) The Antlers – Burst Apart2) The Decemberists – The King Is Dead3) Noah and the Whale – Last Night on Earth4) Bon Iver – Bon Iver5) Laura Marling – A Creature I Don't Know6) Owl City – All Things Bright and Beautiful7) Papercuts – Fading Parade8) Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues9) The Low Anthem – Smart Flesh10) King Creosote and Jon Hopkins – Diamond Mine
man I'm a nice guy but just looking at this is making me feel like Biffa Bacon to his Cedric
― Extreme Lifestyle, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
lex u ought to have noticed this is something quite specific! not the old nme reviewer staple of 'sixth form poetry'
insofar as polly j is successful it's cuz she preserves a sort of adolescent directness and vitriol very well
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
The album isn't particularly vitriolic though? There's a weird lack of overt commentary there given the subject matter.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
I have no idea what this means but I'm going to assume from context that it involves disemboweling and vivisection
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
LES isn't vitriolic or particularly direct though! indeed what makes it very unadolescent is her commitment to an "objective stance" throughout - there's no polemic, no sloganeering, just...describing, and making human. it's very comparable to new amerykah pt 1 in that sense (and i guess if you reduced erykah badu to the themes she's concerned with you could call her a bit sixth form as well?)
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
what sort of influences do raiohead cite these days? courtney love? is billy corgan still writing and if so what is he reading
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
is there a good reason why Fleet Foxes shouldn't fill me with an almost irresistible urge to kill
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol king of limbs influences #1 result is sick mahfy
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
what sort of influences do raiohead cite these days?
Penderecki and ye old englische dubsteppe.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
what makes it very unadolescent is her commitment to an "objective stance" throughout
I've seen random internet chuckleheads denounce it for both glorifying and criticising war, which kinda suggests she's done her job
― Extreme Lifestyle, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke told BBC that he has always been infatuated with the music of Neil Young and has even been told some of his music sounds like the legendary singer songwriter.
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
I really cannot get over how much better than the FACT list the RA list is; even the overlapping tracks sound better on the RA list.
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
I don't even really want to open this can of worms, but I really like the new album. They've really expanded on what they did with their over-hyped first album and I think there are some really interesting moments. Some songs put me in the mind of the first Midlake album, while other hit on a CSNY vibe that works for me. I can totally see why this wouldn't be up most peoples alley, but otoh it kind of annoys me to see it so frequently lumped in (by both detractors and people that love them!!) with shit like Mumford or Noah and the Whale.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
there is a reason why they get lumped in with shit like Mumford tho
I mean, I recognize that they are talented and I actually think they have very, very good singing voices; I just want to start punching until my fists are nubs whenever I hear their music
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
i guess one reason is that it's possible not to listen to them
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
what is the best way to convey how little indie music you have heard without seeming tuomish or otherwise obnoxious
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
oh dan, while you're here you may not have seen this in the knifelike thread, but fatima al qadiri's latest ep is currently blowing my mind, and i think you might be into it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpgtuWQ2vUc
http://soundcloud.com/fatima-al-qadiri/sets/genre-specific-xperieince
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
there is a reason why they get lumped in with shit like Mumford thoI mean, I recognize that they are talented and I actually think they have very, very good singing voices; I just want to start punching until my fists are nubs whenever I hear their music― OH NOES, Friday, December 16, 2011
― OH NOES, Friday, December 16, 2011
good grief, man. fleet foxes are not supposed to inspire rage; they are supposed to make you think of golden voices carried along gentle breezes, which make you recognize the vast univ . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, I think this betrays how little you've actually heard. The thing is, the singles that get all the buzz are actually usually my LEAST favorite of their songs. I think they actually have very little in common with Mumford.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, whatever, this is a losing battle here and I don't really care enough to invest more time in it - but the kneejerk comparisons to Mumford & Sons are lazy and wrong.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
from the little i've heard of each, M&S seem very british and fleet foxes seem very american
― n/a, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
appropos of nothing, but one of my law partners loves mumford & sons, or whatever their name is.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Fleet Foxes are annoying due to excessive mimsiness whereas the Mumfords are annoying due to clumpy pig-on-a-string beery idiocy.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Watching him go from saying stuff like this, to rubbing up against Massive Attack at OccupyLSX, TY just strikes me as one of those dudes who spends his entire life trying to get the Sixth Form boys to really ~really~ like him, whether those Sixth Form Boys are Aphex Twin or Fleet Foxes. It's kinda pathetic but also quite quite endearing. And makes me quite glad that he has the band he has, who make sure that "Penderecki and ye old englische dubsteppe" overwhelm tendencies that would otherwise turn him into Primal Scream, basically.
^^^^^^massive amounts of projection may have gone into the making of this post.
― Polemicist Who Slashed All, Freely (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
TY FOR THAT LINK, LEX
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Fleet Foxes album is great
― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
I got 4 songs into the Fleet Foxes album before the creaky voice did for me. Which is really sad because I genuinely genuinely love Shape Note harmonies, which are all over their record. But just... I can't.
― Polemicist Who Slashed All, Freely (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Lol Lex, Badu's concerns are straight cultural studies dept. At a state university...
Also, it's unfortunate that Kitty Empire thought it necessary to include Childish Gambino in her top 10 list
― he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ like this is totally valid criticism of the Fleet Foxes record imho. I guess I just feel like there's a lot of this kneejerk "ugh harmonies and beards and folk" dismissal of them. I think they are doing a lot more interesting things with folk than, I don't know, that terrible Decemberists record (and I actually used to like them too).
(xpost)
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
The Fatima Al Qadiri EP is indeed supergreat, I've been pushing it on the Outloud room.
― sean doily, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
How is Kitty Empire the name of a real person and not a villainous movie heiress?
― jaymc, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
or paradise on earth
― n/a, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
cuz british music journalists with wite ppl names magically acquire better ones
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it's not her real name, also the title of a Big Black song.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
XLR8R's Best of 2011: Trackshttp://www.xlr8r.com/features/2011/12/xlr8rs-best-2011-tracks-part-2
20. Holy Other "Feel Something" (Tri Angle)19. Rustie "Ultra Thizz" (Warp)18. Teeth "Shawty" (502)17. Martyn "Masks" (Brainfeeder)16. Omar-S "Here's Your Trance Now Dance" (FXHE)15. Kingdom "Let You No" (Night Slugs)14. xxxy "Ordinary Things" (Ten Thousand Yen)13. Unknown "Sicko Cell" (SWAMP81)12. Jacques Greene "Another Girl" (LuckyMe)11. Classixx "Into the Valley (Julio Bashmore Remix)" (Green Label Sound)
10. Tycho "Hours" (Ghostly)9. Virgo Four "It's a Crime (Caribou Remix)" (Rush Hour)8. The Weeknd "The Morning"7. SBTRKT "Wildfire (feat. Little Dragon)" (Young Turks)6. Martyn "We Are You in the Future" (Brainfeeder)5. Holy Other "Touch" (Tri Angle)4. Mosca "Done Me Wrong" (Numbers)3. Scuba "Adrenalin" (Hotflush)2. M83 "Midnight City" (Mute)1. Julio Bashmore "Battle for Middle You" (PMR)
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
OK, well, the idea of a music critic adopting a fanciful pseudonym is kind of eye-roll.
― jaymc, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't really happen any more, i've noticed
i like having a wite ppl name b/c it tends to result in commenters and sundry other haters yell at me about being white, which amuses me greatly. one particular hater, formerly of this parish, was so pressed that he resorted to calling me "culturally white" lololololololololol
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
I like it - Johnny Cigarettes, K-Punk, Julie Burchill etc...
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was about still being able to sign on the dole while drawing a teeny tiny paycheck from NME reviews that didn't even cover the drinks tab at yr average gig?
― Polemicist Who Slashed All, Freely (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
also about writing for rival publications when you weren't meant to? not sure
i can't think of a british single music journalist of ~my generation~ (and uh younger) who uses a pseudonym - there was miss amp but she's a bit older and doesn't do music writing any more?
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
can I go back to the RA singles list for a second, because I'm currently playing Storm Queen's "It Goes On" and basically everything I've heard on this list so far has been good to fantastic
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Even now, as the UK's diplomatic links with Iran unravel
Isn't that nice and agentless?
PJ Harvey's vocals annoy me here (I don't remember what she sounds like elsewhere) and the songs are so-so as songs.
― Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
(I was never a fan of hers.)
― Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
I was, but i still prefer White Chalk over this album. Dunno why.
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
what little Storm Queen stuff I've heard sounded rad but my personal favourite thing is that it shares its name with an early 80s NWOBHM band from the Welsh valleys who were managed by Rod Liddle
― Extreme Lifestyle, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
extreme lifestyle = dj mencap?
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
if it wasn't clear already then it is now
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― Extreme Lifestyle, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link