Also the Onsulade/Ame track is really worth hearing, the second half is so ravey!
yes! how had i not heard this!
i am just never going to get benoit & sergio :( sooooo dull.
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
not even walk & talk? :-(
do you like the Wolf + Lamb vs Soul Clap mix from a wee while back, Lex?
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
it was okay
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
is the Bon Iver album an 80s-retro thing?
At least partly, yeah. One song sounds like Toto (without the rhythm section, kind of like the song you know I won't hold you back).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 December 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
Surprised they went for seemingly every Benoit & Sergio *except* Everybody which I thought was kinda the acknowledged anthem.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
I'm kind of sad the Art Department album didn't make any EOY lists, this year.
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
speaking of dull
― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link
an art department where all the paint is grey
ha xp!
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph05AIKuJGY
This is the Art Department and is pretty decent - but there's also Soul Clap and Onsulade input there as well.
Generally I think they're fine when there are no vocals getting in the way.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't think it was grey. certainly moody, but quite emotional and affecting.
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Tiny Mix Tapes (USA) Albums EOY 2011http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2011-favorite-50-albums-2011
50 - Tom Waits - Bad as Me49 - Liturgy - Aesthetica48 - Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter One: Les Gens de Couleur Libres47 - Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring for My Halo46 - A Winged Victory for the Sullen - A Winged Victory for the Sullen45 - Tiziana Bertoncini and Thomas Lehn - Horsky Park44 - The Psychic Paramount - II43 - St. Vincent - Strange Mercy42 - Zomby - Dedication41 - Fabio Orsi - Stand Before Me, Oh My Soul40 - Kreng - Grimoire39 - Arrington de Dionyso’s Malaikat dan Singa - Suara Naga38 - Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light 137 - Telebossa - Telebossa36 - Future Islands - On the Water35 - The Men - Leave Home34 - Panda Bear - Tomboy33 - Rafael Toral - Space Elements Vol. III32 - M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming31 - EMA - Past Life Martyred Saints30 - Lil B - I'm Gay29 - Thee Oh Sees - Castlemania28 - Thee Oh Sees - Carrion Crawler/Dream27 - The Weeknd - House of Balloons26 - Amen Dunes - Through Donkey Jaw25 - Hype Williams - One Nation24 - Bill Orcutt - How the Thing Sings23 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake22 - Death Grips - Ex Military21 - James Ferraro - Far Side Virtual20 - DJ Rashad - Just a Taste19 - Sean McCann - The Capital18 - Flaming Lips - The Strobo Trip: Light and Audio Phase Illusions Toy17 - Dirty Beaches - Badlands16 - Kwjaz - Kwjaz15 - Bill Callahan - Apocalypse14 - Peaking Lights - 93613 - Shabazz Palaces - Black Up12 - tUnE-yArDs - WhoKill11 - Tim Hecker - Ravedeath, 197210 - Demdike Stare - Triptych [2010]9 - Destroyer - Kaputt8 - Gang Gang Dance - Eye Contact7 - John Maus - We Must Become the Pitiless Censors of Ourselves6 - Grouper - A I A: Alien Observer / A I A: Dream Loss5 - DJ Diamond - Flight Muzik4 - The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond This World3 - Colin Stetson - New History Warfare, Vol. 2: Judges2 - James Blake - James Blake1 - Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 16 December 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
^ decent enough list, huge improvement on pitchfork imo
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 16 December 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
much more interesting. James Blake in second place is a bit of an odd one, considering the quality of the stuff that precedes it, but big props for putting DJ Diamond so near the top.
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the tiny mix tapes list is interesting. i mean, there's a lot of overlap and re-ordering of the titles on the P4K list, but there are also interesting items on the TMT list that didn't make it to the P4K list (e.g., dirty beaches; demdike stares; peaking lights).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 December 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
btw, i haven't gone thru it yet, but the individual lists on dusted's year-end summary are always interesting (no total-staff best-of list at dusted).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 December 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
The Best Rhythm and Blues of 2011http://www.popmatters.com/pm/tools/full/152019
01 Maya Azucena - Cry Love02 Rashaan Patterson - Bleuphoria03 Mamas Gun - The Life and Soul04 Lalah Hathaway - Where It All Begins05 Beverly Knight - Soul UK06 Goapele - Break of Dawn07 Patti Austin - Sound Advice08 Van Hunt - What Were You Hoping For?09 Daryl Hall - Laughing Down Crying10 Ledisi - Pieces of Me
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 16 December 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
no yardbirds?
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
^agreed. It's an outrage.
― he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Friday, 16 December 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
luckily we have tuneyards
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
I don't normally like to bash P4K, but their list is less inspired than the NME's.
Who looks to these lists for inspiration?
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
this muthafucka
http://rlv.zcache.com/look_to_the_light_business_card-p240048209533610449yq46_400.jpg
― nashwan, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Here's the tracks off of the RA list I could find on Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/1hyXkhovMXjdch00K74y6B
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
fyi 15 seconds in and I already like this list much much more than the FACT list
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it's pretty good. Already discovered a few keepers i wasn't familiar with
― Number None, Friday, 16 December 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
okay I am in LOVE with this Sneaker track, which is essentially one measure of music repeated for 12 minutes
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
What was the guardian number 1? pj harvey?
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
yarp
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
WateryTart16 December 2011 1:27PM Let England Shake – a genuinely great piece of war art – was made by a woman, too, though in 2011 we really should have moved beyond finding this unusual. ... Female singer-songwriters are supposed to be winsome things who write about their feelings for guys. ... Folk singer Linda Thompson, part of a panel of judges who voted Let England Shake Uncut magazine's album of the year (it won the Mercury prize, and was Mojo and NME's album of the year, too) put it like this: "I was impressed that a woman could go through a whole album and not mention some stupid bloke, except a stupid dead bloke."You have got to be fucking kidding me."She's a girl but she writes about war and that's innovative and unusual for a girl, though we really shouldn't have to say that. But we will. Because she's a girl. And her album is full of deep stuff, not like what girls usually write about. It's good when girls don't write about what girls usually write about."I must reiterate:You have got to be fucking kidding me.
16 December 2011 1:27PM
Let England Shake – a genuinely great piece of war art – was made by a woman, too, though in 2011 we really should have moved beyond finding this unusual. ...
Female singer-songwriters are supposed to be winsome things who write about their feelings for guys. ...
Folk singer Linda Thompson, part of a panel of judges who voted Let England Shake Uncut magazine's album of the year (it won the Mercury prize, and was Mojo and NME's album of the year, too) put it like this: "I was impressed that a woman could go through a whole album and not mention some stupid bloke, except a stupid dead bloke."
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
"She's a girl but she writes about war and that's innovative and unusual for a girl, though we really shouldn't have to say that. But we will. Because she's a girl. And her album is full of deep stuff, not like what girls usually write about. It's good when girls don't write about what girls usually write about."
I must reiterate:
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
okay really?
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i thought that was a pretty weak summation of why this is a good album. I'm still looking for an "in" to it, but being told "it's good because it's a girl singing about war" is not only plain sexist, but the least interesting thing about the record.
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
I love that album for several reasons:
- The totally different, delicate vocal color of PJ's singing voice, particularly the stunning floated headvoice used on "On Battleship Hill".- The connected narrative running through the album.- The music arrangement of the songs.
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah dan, reallyhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/dec/16/pj-harvey-let-england-shake
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Linda Thompson's summation is lame but Kitty Empire's is a lot more nuanced than that.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
i can't really think of anything more to say about LES - having written about PJH a lot this year - but every time i see someone suggest that LES : UK :: Destroyer : USA (in that UK critics care way less about Destroyer than US critics, and US critics care way less about PJH than Destroyer), I am tremendously thankful to be on the right side of that
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
Let England Shake – a genuinely great piece of war art – was made by a woman, too, though in 2011 we really should have moved beyond finding this unusual.
Yes durr.
But Harvey's gender, and her upbringing on a Dorset farm, are both inherent to its greatness.
Also true.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
I was more boggling at Linda Thompson
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
i also liked Kitty E's write-up
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
NY Times critics top 2011 picks
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/arts/music/from-retro-yuck-to-foodie-rap.html?ref=music Jon Caramanica
Likes Yuck, Action Bronson, Drake, Beyonce and more
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/arts/music/music-of-heartache-mortality-and-success.html?_r=1&ref=music Jon Pareles
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/arts/music/pistol-annies-yob-deaf-center-paul-simon.html?ref=music Ben Ratliff
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/arts/music/ambrose-akinmusire-drake-the-roots-st-vincent.html?ref=music Nate Chinen
― Another Suburbanite, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
guardian critics' lists:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/dec/16/albums-2011-critics-voted?intcmp=ILCMUSTXT9384
― bayou goo, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
Harvey began writing lyrics for the album before setting the words to music. She has cited the poetry of Harold Pinter and T.S. Eliot as influences, as well as the artwork of Salvador Dalí and Francisco de Goya and music of The Doors, The Pogues, and The Velvet Underground.[7] She has also spoken of researching the history of conflict, including the Gallipoli campaign, and reading modern-day testimonies from civilians and soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
this is very kinda 'ambitious sixth former'
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
well luckily her execution is way beyond "ambitious sixth former"
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
Diamond Mine has appeared 6 times ITT and always in the lower ranks. When Saints Go Machine appeared only twice, and just once in the higher echelons. And today I bought a scotch egg and there was no egg in it. Fuck this world!
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
on a related note why is so much conceptual ambition in art, esp that which involves actual research, always dismissed as "sixth former" or "undergraduate"? as if it's somehow juvenile?
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
if it is, the people responsible for slating it should be shot in front of their families (Etc).. Maybe this is some throwback to the punk-rock conceit that "concept albums are for nerdy art-fags who like classical music" or something?
― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
and US critics care way less about PJH than Destroyer
I don't really see this though, PJH has seemed to show up ahead of Bejar on a lot of lists.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
...from U.S. centric outlets, I meant to add.
Lolololololol at Reynolds putting Woebot's album in his top 10.
Also there's a Woebot album wtf?
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
idk this album but those all cohere into a particular sort of late-adolescent worldview
― schalke nult fear (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
why is so much conceptual ambition in art, esp that which involves actual research, always dismissed as "sixth former" or "undergraduate"?
in this case i think it's partly to do with the listed influences being sort of obvious touchstones to young people just discovering literature/music and the idea of naive "anti-war" themes.
nb i've got no idea what the record's like i'm just explaining why that bit of review reads that way
― Angles that bitch (Julie Lagger), Friday, 16 December 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
woebot has been releasing for years!