― Gekoppel (Gekkopel), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
louis i think most people's problem with your claim was not that you were comparing GY!BE to bach or mozart or miles or orbital but that you claimed the existence of a single "pantheon" containing all the greats of "instrumental music"--implying that the major division amongst musics for most people is "music with singing" and "music without singing" and that everyone in the second category can be lumped together as though they have more in common with one another than they do with those from their same time who make music from the first category. This is fair. If only that were most people's qualm...although in my defence I have seen threads on 'instrumental music' bandied around before here. Perhaps I should have limited it to instrumental rock music. Music without lyrics is more the issue here than music without singing, incidentally, which takes us onto...
I'd like to take you up on the astonishing wrongness of your Bach argument but suspect that would hardly be constructive at this point. *gulps* Please, don't be too harsh, I just hear the voices and think 'harmony'! I don't know any German! I don't know what they're singing! For me it's just another musical strand to add to the other factions of the orchestra.
As for the rest of your point, Matt, well, even if that isn't your opinion, you yourself have claimed that it's a pretty generally-held opinion on GY!BE. In that case, my words stand, although if I can't take down the critical consensus that way, how on earth could I ever do so?
That's like comparing Aaron McGruder to Toni Morrison and suggesting you're talking about good writers. Sadly, American Studies isn't part of the course I'm on. Although Toni Morrison, she wrote Beloved, didn't she? One of the other classes at school studied that and hated it practically to a man (and woman). So...you're saying that all the artists named are shite? Uh?
Right now, for him, this album is the Greatest Album In The World Not even close. Maybe top 25. ;-)
Greatest Instrumental Album In The World One of. :-D Although we could clarify that again with 'Instrumental Rock'.
even the band thought it was shitly recorded. SEE ALSO: The Beta Band, s/t. Another favourite of mine, despite whatever they thought it could have been. The artist, if not dead, is definitely bound and gagged in the corner by the time his creation reaches my ears. I think it's recorded fantastically.
they're nothing like classical music Never said they were.
Branca who they ripped off heavily Have heard Symphony No. 6 and The Ascension, similarities in guitar tone perhaps, complete disparity in terms of melodic ambition.
deeply uncool SO FUCKING WHAT
― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM, sheesh. That was almost as bad as anything Louis said.
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
ban louis jagger
― and what (ooo), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
;-)
― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Stressed Scourage (Scourage), Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Sunday, 3 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
:-D contains no parentheses, btw.
― The Scourage Strikes Back (Scourage), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.argaste.com/img/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg
― Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link
As for that jpg, taking semi-amusing pot-shots over the internet ain't much better!
― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― grbchv! (gbx), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― grbchv! (gbx), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0052,seward,21008,22.html
-- scott seward (skotro...), December 3rd, 2006.
so, scott, was a permanent weed detox the reason for never listening to "skinny fists" again?
― eggzakly huh? (eggzakly huh?), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link
whoof. i remember seeing them at the QMU a good few years back and thinking they were the most tedious spectacle imaginable. up until that point i'd really, really liked them; after that i couldn't bear to listen to them again. (same thing happened - perhaps more understandably - with the polyphonic spree.)
that said: they're long overdue an official grimly fiendish re-assessment. and, now i've got my record-player working again, i shall get to it.
― grimly fiendish (simon), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
It would only be fair to get Ned's keyboard too, then.
― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
The most OTM thing on this thread.
― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Sunday, 3 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― friday (lfam), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link
But didn't Albini record Yanqui U.X.O.? And doesn't he normally just record the band pretty much as they normally sound live, sans wild production techniques?
― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link
"Paradise""Song Of Solomon""The Bluest Eye" &, her best and most recent book: "Love".
damn, i think i actually like "Jazz" more too.
― colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Monday, 4 December 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― obi strip (sanskrit), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Wench (jim wentworth), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway, that last Scenic album craps all over the entire GYBE output.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― hm (modestmickey), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Having said that nowhere near as good as 'It takes two'.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Enthusiasm is great.
― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Zachary Scott (ZachRScot...) (webmail), December 4th, 2006 12:02 AM. (Zachary S) (later) (link)
That is normally his intention, but it seems neither party was entirely happy with what they ended up with. I don't think they've spoken since (note that it was Hogan and not Shellac that invited them to Shellac ATP).
― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link
it's the enthusiasm of a 19-yr-old (which is great!), but not the frame of reference! i have said this before, but what i really don't get about louis is that the stuff he says these things about is the stuff people my age and a bit older would have eulogised when they were louis' age! i am pretty sure that most 19-yr-olds do not listen to mansun or blur or godspeed whatsit. people who are 25 did, when they were 19.
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link
i fell asleep during spiritualized once! but i don't think that necessarily means they are bad. i like spiritualized.
― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link