Damn I hope im not soundin like some headbanger mad at Tenacious D
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
If it's some joke then kudos, but actually liking it is lower than ca. 2010 "DIE ANTWOORD GOT CHOONS" revisionism
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I entirely understand someone hating the Ferraro album but for better or worse it doesn't really sound like anything else so I don't see how it's going to embody any sort of collective attitude
― Extreme Lifestyle, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
btw best albums on this list are Bug, Ayler and Arrested Development real talk
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
lolling @ the wire is so fun
― cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
whiney please nominate your top five albums of "wire music" for 2011
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
The Ferraro record stands out as the least, uh, crafty of all these records, for sure.
― oPal, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
i like those bjork records, portishead, the ayler i've never heard but i'm sure it's good
― cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
i'm listening to ferraro now oh wait i had to turn it off because i get the "joke" which just leaves unlistenable casio music
― cad, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
ATY over Comicopera.
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
whiney's jihad against neo-new-age is about 9 months past its sell-by imo sorry dude. if you can't hear the qualitative difference between ferraro & the altered zones shit you hate so much then you are doing some lazy listening imo
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
also, voted bjork because her music is & has always been horrible
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
not a big bjork fan, but vespertine is beautiful and bjork aside, the music on that is heaps more inventive than eg murray street
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Vespertine, along with Tortoise, is the best, most ground-breaking record in terms of progressive sound on this list.
― lebateauivre, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
<3 vespertine, my 2nd favourite björk album
weirdly what stands out to me on glancing at this list is how uhhh mainstream the first 4 are! in the sense of their profile. tbh an equivalent list for most other publications would almost certainly be more embarrassing
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
I misread the title -- my two picks would be my favorites (and Vespertine).
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
weirdly what stands out to me on glancing at this list is how uhhh mainstream the first 4 are! in the sense of their profile. tbh an equivalent list for most other publications would almost certainly be more embarrassing― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend),
Melody Maker1992 Automatic For The People - R.E.M. 1993 Tindersticks - Tindersticks 1994 Dummy - Portishead 1995 Different Class - Pulp 1996 Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
Q (just randomly chose one album from each top 10 as it was an alphabetical top 10 not numbered)1992 Tori Amos - Little earthquakes (top 10 was alphabetical)1993 The Auteurs - New wave (same as above)1994 Orbital - Snivilation (same as above)1995 PJ Harvey - To bring you my love (same as above)1996 Fugees - The score (same as above)
Rolling Stone1992 R.E.M. - Automatic For The People 1993 Nirvana - In Utero 1994 Hole - Live Through This 1995 PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 1996 Beck - Odelay
Spin1992 Pavement - Slanted And Enchanted 1993 Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville 1994 Hole - Live Through This 1995 Moby - Everything Is Wrong 1996 Beck - Odelay
Kerrang1992 Alice In Chains - Dirt 1993 Pearl Jam - Vs 1994 Therapy? - Troublegum 1995 Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters 1996 Screaming Trees - Dust
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
Troublegum!
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
The Face1992 1. Arrested Development - Three Years, Five Months And Two Days In The LIfe Of...1993 Bjork - Debut1994 Portishead – Dummy1995 Tricky - Maxinquaye1996 Fugees- The Score
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
welp, lex otm
― v-shasty, Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
looks like there was pretty much a consensus in those years GAPDYXX fans
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Sunday, 11 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
I do like it when The Wire go to bat for an artist, esp. a newish one, one who is such typical fodder for the magazine. i.e. a band that only The Wire would put at #1, like Ayler, The Books, Actress.
― oPal, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry for confusing verbs + nouns when switching btw "artist" and "band" I don't know how you guys keep it together
― oPal, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
whiney please nominate your top five albums of "wire music" for 2011― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
Article coming at the end of Dec, actually!
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
A GAME OF HORSESHOES
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Hate that The Bug POS so much, worse than Burial
Giving Far Side Virtual #1 is admirable trolling, wtg WIRE
― moonbop, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
the bug album is awesome
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
A Thousand Leaves is my favourite of these, and Murray Street is my least favourite. I've only heard about half of them though. Haven't heard the Ferraro.
Tony Herrington's comments on the 2011 list are interesting:
Because when you look closely, the individual wills that gave rise to such an outcome (The Wire‘s contributors say James Ferraro’s Far Side Virtual is the best thing released this year) start to appear rather peculiar in relation to it, ie: out of an electorate of 60 voters, only seven actually voted for Far Side Virtual in their individual top tens – that’s less than 12 per cent of the total electorate; and none of those electors who did vote for it actually had it as their individual top release of the year.
― sean doily, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
PAZZ & JOP1992 Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months, And 2 Days In The Life Of... 1993 Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville 1994 Hole - Live Through This 1995 PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 1996 Beck - Odelay
P&J no different to other lists
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
I think Murray Street is the last true great SY album. I couldn't care less for the patchy, mediocre ATL. Murray Street is just so gripping, from beginning to end.
― lebateauivre, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
ditto
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
well except some of the ones since then have been pretty great, just not as great
Exactly. Sonic Nurse comes close, but it's no Murray Street
― lebateauivre, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Fom their blog:
http://www.thewire.co.uk/themire/tag/releases-of-the-year
Anyway, sitting conspicuously at the top of The Wire’s Releases of the Year chart for 2011 is James Ferraro’s Far Side Virtual, by dint of the simple and maybe even bleedingly obvious fact that more staff and contributors voted for it than any other release issued this year. But what does that mean exactly? Because when you look closely, the individual wills that gave rise to such an outcome (The Wire‘s contributors say James Ferraro’s Far Side Virtual is the best thing released this year) start to appear rather peculiar in relation to it, ie: out of an electorate of 60 voters, only seven actually voted for Far Side Virtual in their individual top tens – that’s less than 12 per cent of the total electorate; and none of those electors who did vote for it actually had it as their individual top release of the year.
― xyzz, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
Far Side Virtual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OaIaQ8JefM
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oops sorry for posting that blog post again.
― xyzz, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
i fucking hate ilm so much
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
But this is Sandbox ILM Lamp, you can make a REAL DIFFERENCE
― lebateauivre, Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvepu1KTat1qexyuco1_400.gif
2006: Burial - Burial
― boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
yeah burial is probably the worst album itt and the most lol in retrospect (and thus regrettable?)
millions now living is maybe the worst choice in light of other options tho
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
waht... Millions now living is great!
And I still like Burial's album too ;_;
― lebateauivre, Sunday, 11 December 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
can someone transcribe The Wire's review of LULU from earlier this year? had no idea they liked it. looks like it made their 2011 top ten...
― ilxor, Sunday, 11 December 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
Two writers had it as their #1 iirc (Dave Keenan was one of them)
― sean doily, Sunday, 11 December 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
idg the burial skrillex.gif
― wil smif, Sunday, 11 December 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
the sound of one dubstep joke clapping
― Brad Nelson, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
the Ayler box set is far and away the best of all of these.
― sarahel, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
but then the Ayler is the one thing on that list that wasn't contemporary, so it stands out in that regard.
But seriously, the concept of "album of the year" just seems so temporary as it is. And it's such an arbitrary exercise -- like a combo of stuffed-animal arranging and marketing ploy. The idea that years down the road people would discuss what is a "regrettable choice" just seems silly to me -- unless we're talking about having picked something that later led to mass murder, or the artist turned out to be a pedophile, wife-beater or racist or something.
― sarahel, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
isn't it so regrettable that they chose this one dude who can't even play a keyboard
― Brad Nelson, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
hey Lamp & mookie you seem to like Laika, you guys listen much to Moonshake? I was just playing Eva Luna and, man, I've had that album for about 15 years and it still just keeps getting better and better...
― he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 15 December 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link
wow wrong thread
― he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 15 December 2011 07:47 (twelve years ago) link
late robert wyatt is generally p bad but their affection for him is kind of touching. probably i would have voted mouse on mars because i mean come on
― thompp, Thursday, 15 December 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
Come on what?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
re: Ayler boxset. Knew of its existence but had no idea that he played w/Cecil and Graves...I've been asleep.
The early-to-mid 90s #1s are really gd. I guess people forget that Wire were staffed w/writers from both the Jazz AND the indie/pop end of the music press.
Not that I'll check but somehow doubt the latest crop of writers from the NME will get near so I wd guess (and I've only bought a cpl of issues in the last year) most of the writers come from the Merzbow end of the music paperless press.
That and K-Punk.
― xyzz, Thursday, 15 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Graves was his go-to drummer for about a year and a half (he's on Love Cry). He didn't play much with Cecil: the snippet on the box may be the only time they played together. Supposedly, Jimmy Lyons (Cecil's alto saxophonist) wasn't a fan of Ayler's playing. But the Cecil-Ayler collaboration was long thought to be just a rumor before the box surfaced.
― Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Friday, 16 December 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link