people have been conflating and oversimplifying schizo and multiple personality disorder forever and it will never stop obviously
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
"Channeling" or "employing voices" and we got a deal.
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
itt people continue to misuse the word "schizophrenic"
in ilx, people continue to complain about the meaning of words gradually shifting over time and across contexts
― n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
actually I am wrong here, this is apparently the definition of "schizophrenic" in play here:
a state characterized by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.
I never think of the term "schizophrenic" this way but it makes sense (and explains why it gets used interchangeably with MPD)
― OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
I ended up voting for Britney - "I Wanna Go," strangely enough. Sad that Kelly Rowland's "Motivation" didn't make this list.
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
generally speaking, mainstream America does not really care about Kelly Rowland unless she's with Beyonce or Nelly (which is really too bad)
― OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
that song was a p big hit though
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
I had assumed that this metaphorical definition developed from the pervasive misuse of "schizophrenical" as a clinical term.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, beyonce didn't make this list either. did she have a song off this last record as big as 'motivation'?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
"Best Thing I Never Had" peaked at 16."Motivation" peaked at 17.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
meanwhile I have still never actually heard Lady Antebellum (and I hope I never do)
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
"Motivation" #1 on the R&B charts for seven weeks. "Best Thing I Never Had" peaked at #4.
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
"Motivation" went platinum, "Best Thing" only went gold. Kelly won this year, singles-wise at least.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
But isn't this Billboard chart determined exclusively by Hot 100 performance?
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
yes. but "Motivation" is higher than "Best" on this list too.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
because chart longevity matters more than peak positions.
(Motivation at #53, Best Thing at #86)
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
btw if you wanna get an idea of just how little influence urban radio has on the Hot 100 these days, the #1 R&B/hip-hop song of the year, Miguel's "Sure Thing," is #92 on the Hot 100 year-end list.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I know that. I'm responding to deej and Crut who are disappointed/surprised that "Motivation" isn't on the list at all. It was a big R&B hit, apparently (I've never heard it) -- but it only peaked at #17 on the big chart, so it's going to have some trouble landing in the year-end top 50.
I'm not actually sure what point deej was trying to make by pulling in Beyonce.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't pull her in, dan did when he mentioned that no one cared about kelly unless she was on a song by beyonce or nelly
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
how have you not heard motivation?
the #1 R&B/hip-hop song of the year, Miguel's "Sure Thing," is #92 on the Hot 100 year-end list.
And that's a song I've only heard because ILXors have mentioned it and I've looked it up on YouTube. Doesn't get much airplay on the Top 40 stations here (even the "rhythmic" one).
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Lyrically, Miguel uses analogies to express his love interest, such as "You are the chalk / And I could be your blackboard" and "If I'm the lyric baby / You could be the note".
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Where would I have heard it?
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVjxjGgdVPg
― Adrien Brony (step hen faps), Friday, 9 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, I only really listen to the radio on the weekend when I'm running errands. So the songs that stick are the ones that are played a million times.
xp Yeah, I'm listening to it now, just because I wanted to make sure I really hadn't heard it.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
And the pop stations I listen to are B96 and Kiss 103.5.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
rmde
if you couldn't parse that as "Kelly has never made an EOY pop list unless she's in Destiny's Child or on 'Dilemma'" I don't really know what to tell you
― OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm also not as into keeping up with pop music as I used to be, in part b/c I don't love the aesthetic that dominates in 2011 and in part because I'm lol old.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
"Motivation" is #33 on the 'radio songs' chart, so it's bigger if you're looking purely at airplay and not stuff like itunes sales
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
6 foot 7 foot no hesitation
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
ugh son
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
SMH
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
idg 6 foot 7 foot
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
like, if you want to talk about trebly, harsh songs that sound like cats having sex
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
pretty great rap song while wayne is going but it's not a classic or anything
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
also it gets annoying when played on the radio too much
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
weezy sounds like a police siren
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's seriously one of the most unpleasantly shrill songs i've ever heard in radio rotation
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
idk, i like "back coupes up and chunk the deuce up" as a rhyme and on principal i think ending verse w/ the same phrase (either slightly tweaked or not) is fun gimmick
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:50 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
misread this as "i like 'back coupes up and chunk the deuce up' as a rhyme on principal" & was like "otm"
― wil smif, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
lol did you all hate "A Milli" too?
― OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's too twee
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
i was kind of an "a milli" detractor at the time but i give it its due respect as a hugely influential song. i don't know why i should extend the same courtesy to one of its most transparent knockoffs, though.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
same here (i wont give up my preference for 'lollipop' tho)
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
one of my more blatant contrarian positions lol
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
in a milli weezy's voice is much lower-pitched and the sample is lower too
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
gonna challop and say 'how to love' >>>>>>>>>>> '6 foot 7 foot'
― dayo, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
i agree with that, i hate to admit it but "how to love" is kind of a sensitive well written song
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
i was out in front of the "how to love" bandwagon
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
and "She Will" is best of all.
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
which was...?
smh @ you fuckin ke$ha people
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 15 December 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
esp for picking the wrong song
― OH NOES, Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link