So many of the African albums on that Wire Global list are reissues. And I see they are still doing a dub reggae list but not a dancehall one...
― Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
wait guys i think i just figured out what curmudgeon's new display name is
― sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
ding ding ding! You win
― Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Rudipherous: The Wallahi le Zain comp is decent. I would say for pure enjoyment's sake, there is no need for it to be 2 cds, it's bloated. On the anthropological tip maybe the 2 cds is necessary.
The music is decent, but a lot of the songs start sounding same-y even to someone familiar with the different styles, mostly because of the guitar tones. But it's not like there's a glut of Mauritanian music so any is appreciated. I would like to see more releases of haraatin music though.
Also it was kind of weird reading the liner notes, the compiler talked about how this music was party and wedding music and he discussed the community aspect of the dancing and stuff, which is cool and all but kind of puts the listener in a weird space because we are necessarily listening to the comp in absentia of the wedding parties. I don't think the vibe he was trying to capture by taping live instead of studio recordings really comes across.
― Ivor, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
james ferraro album rules but i had no idea critics would be into it at all
― magicrealism, Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
i know one who isnt
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
well he's certainly no skrillex
― magicrealism, Thursday, 8 December 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
This is two days late, but that Wye Oak album ... I can understand calling it "generic," because in a lot of ways it's a very dead-center kind of indie-rock, especially for anyone who perhaps enjoyed indie-rock in the later 90s. It is EXTREMELY good at that, though (which is not exactly common right now), and extremely interesting in its way, too.
Also:
I just have to accept that Nabisco is not interested in some 2011 things that I am--charting rap and r'n'b; African, Caribbean (soca & dancehall) and Latin music; country, southern soul and Americana.
Parts of this are true, but it's a lot to assume from one year's top-10 list! I mean, ten is a small number. I liked a lot of charting rap and r&b (and pop, a country) this year, just nothing that stuck out to me in a top-10 way in album form. And I've have felt silly shoehorning a record in just to prove that I paid attention to some country, or whatever.
But yes, a lot of those areas, especially internationally, I just don't know much about, and they're not really part of my purview job-wise -- I mean, I enjoy modern African pop, but I don't presume to be much of a "critic" or well-informed follower of it, just an ordinary listener. (And I already have to listen to a bunch of other stuff for work, so it's a lot less often that I can explore something out of personal curiosity. I also get the feeling I am a "slow" listener, if that makes sense.)
― nabiscothing, Thursday, 8 December 2011 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
Another ten tracks from FACThttp://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/4/
20: BLAWAN ‘GETTING ME DOWN’ (WHITE LABEL)19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)18: DISTAL ‘COKE BOTTLE’ (GRIZZLY)17: PANGAEA ‘WON’T HURT’ (HESSLE AUDIO)16: MASSIVE ATTACK vs. BURIAL ‘PARADISE CIRCUS’ (VINYL FACTORY)15: INC. ‘MILLIONAIRESS’ (from 3 EP, 4AD)14: OBJEKT ‘THE GOOSE THAT GOT AWAY’ (OBJEKT)13: UNKNOWN ARTIST ‘SICKO CELL’ (SWAMP81)12: XXXY ‘ORDINARY THINGS’ (TEN THOUSAND YEN)11: LANA DEL RAY ‘VIDEO GAMES’ (INTERSCOPE)
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah obviously one's top ten albums for the year inevitably become a postage stamp 'statement' about what you listen to and care about, but it really is a pretty small window into one's tastes that the absence of one thing or another really shouldn't be interpreted as a total lock of interest in that whole genre or anything (xpost)
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
DEL REY. DEL REY. IT'S FUCKING DEL REY NOT DEL RAY
/subeditor snap
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
as in the spanish for king
aaargh
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
20: BLAWAN ‘GETTING ME DOWN’ (WHITE LABEL)^^^^yes!!!! banger19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)^^kmt, ok the beat is good but none of those three are notable at all. why not just rep for another version of it so you recognise the beat without having to give space to chris brown? like this one for instancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDCcnrgP4c
17: PANGAEA ‘WON’T HURT’ (HESSLE AUDIO)^^^uh what? this was one of those i haven't given a second's thought to since hearing it. Pangaea's "hex" was much better
14: OBJEKT ‘THE GOOSE THAT GOT AWAY’ (OBJEKT)^^^weird, it was the flipside of this that i really loved! gorgeous stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xozMkGpiPrM
12: XXXY ‘ORDINARY THINGS’ (TEN THOUSAND YEN)^^ok i guess, i can't hear why you'd particularly highlight it
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
The Rolling Stone list is actually more progressive than the Wire list.
― OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
But yes, a lot of those areas, especially internationally, I just don't know much about, and they're not really part of my purview job-wise
So New York Dominican band Aventura can play Madison Square Garden multiple nights and a New York City publication that covers a broad range of music, does not think that having any staffers or freelancers ever take note of that group, is part of their purview(the publication as opposed to you. No one writer is expected to cover everything) but all kinds of indie-rock is...
― Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
that's a x-post to nabiscothing
― Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
― OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:50 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
heh otm
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
What is the definition of 'progressive' that you are using here? (Not disagreeing, I just literally have no idea what criteria you are using to describe something as 'progressive' in this context.)
― Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
Progressive challops.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
to suit their tastes presumablyxp
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
OTOH it might be the fact that the Rolling Stone list actually has some women on it.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
or politics then
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)^^kmt, ok the beat is good but none of those three are notable at all. why not just rep for another version of it so you recognise the beat without having to give space to chris brown? like this one for instance
there are 80 million versions of that song but they're all pretty much the same song.
also "great job diplo but sorry busta rhymes you just don't cut the mustard" is some horseshit
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I don't really know who's in 'Wonderful Piss Fist' but I'm just guessing here...
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
do you want to?
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, that's funny, because as far as I can tell both lists have two female artists in the top 10.
xpost to Matt DC.
― Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
would be funny if it was an all female bubblegum group thoughxp
emil.y check email btw for something you requested
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
I could totally see a band called 'Wonderful Piss Fist' being made up of women. You guys just don't go to the right gigs, clearly.
― Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
(not 'Wonderful Piss Fist')
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
(Though I do agree that the Wire needs to up its game in regard to coverage of female artists - they didn't even mention Vinyl Terror & Horror in the CooS review.)
― Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
btw it's Wonderfuls - Piss Fist
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
Three women in the Wire to ten: Eliane Radigue, Laurel Halo and half of Hype Williams iirc
― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.ravemagazine.com.au/content/view/26498/181/
― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Not a single record I've bought has made it onto any of the EOY lists yet - and looking at the last installment of the FACT list it doesn't look like it will (one of the few where that might have happened)
― april wowak, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
you know, I have said this about a bazillion times but really fuck Chris Brown forever
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ this Inc. track, is this 2011 or 1988?
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know, i think it's one of his better songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMKX22BHeE (xpost)
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
P.A.S.S.I.O.N. got him in a jam again
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
This Objekt track would be fantastic if the beat would commit to something
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know if this version of "Sicko Cell" on Spotify is the same one they picked but, if it is, GOOD JOB FACT, this gets really really creepy and tense once the beat drops out; it does a good job of making me want to hear the entire mix I pulled it out of.
This XXXY song is kind of generic but simply having a driving house beat puts it above most of the other tracks FACT picked, lol
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
did you like the blawan track dan?
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
Suburbanite: You might be overestimating the magazine's "wide range of coverage" -- it's mostly just me writing about pop records, someone else profiling local indie bands, and a classical critic. Aventura's probably "pop" enough to fall inside my purview (i.e., you could write about it as a pop thing, without any big background in Latin/Caribbean music), but I rarely feel like I have time to do that sort of thing justice; I'd want to take a while to really learn what I'm talking about! It'd be great if we had a regular freelancer with the background to cover that stuff quickly. (Also, I should get better at pitching.)
― nabiscothing, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
i felt sure the wire top ten would include the grouper recs
― w33d fowler, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Blawan wasn't on Spotify so I haven't tracked it down yet.
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone mentioned Anthony David as yet?
― cybele, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Bleep's top ten albums:
1. Byetone - SyMeta (raster-noton)2. Rustie - Glass Swords (Warp)3. John Maus - We Must Become The Pitiless Censors Of Ourselves (Upset The Rhythm)4. patten - GLAQJO XAACSSO (No Pain In Pop)5. Martyn - Ghost People (Brainfeeder)6. Peaking Lights - 936 (WW / NNF)7. Surgeon - Breaking The Frame (Dynamic Tension Records)8. Roll The Dice - In Dust (The Leaf Label)9. Nicolas Jaar - Space is Only Noise (Circus Company)10. Roly Porter - Aftertime (Subtext)
http://bleep.com/?page=podcast&module=EOYBuy
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
x-post to Nabisco--what's pop sometimes depends on how it is pitched and who is your editor I guess.
― Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
hmm this Blawan track is basically just a Brandy remix; it's good but not really killing me (tho headphones might be letting me down again)
again though, the presence of an actual beat elevates it above most of the other selections on the list
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link