probably my favorite rap album 2011

its def a grower -- hes def not a flashy rapper in any way. if any of yall are feeling cormega, he's like a midwest version of that

my problem w/ regional thug is the implication that as a category none of these artists deserve your attention, or that they're the fucking rap equiv of jerk music or something, or that they are permanently exiled to being less-covered than g-side when imo there's a huge variety w/in that stupid little bubble

but interpret it as me being 'butthurt' even though that makes no sense if you want

i'm ok with this being a year-end thread, as long as at least a few of you are willing to discuss /check out the rapper mentioned at the top; his album is one i've come back to a lot

'regional thug' is just straight up disrespectful frankly

who's the producer on these boldy james tracks? it's got a nice premier feel to it.

well at least the second one does.

"Concrete Connie" is produced by Brains, "I Sold Dope All My Life" is produced by The Plug. I don't really hear the Premier thing on "Concrete Connie" too much. Maybe it's because I know Boldy's from Detroit but to me this is in that same vein of cracked/distorted-street-soul music as Dilla's overall vibe w/out sounding particularly dilla-ish

ok i really like these thanks deej or whoever you are

thnx yeah i recommend the entire record tho. this shit will have you sagging your karl kanis and walking with a gangster lean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfU0JCnszA

my problem w/ regional thug is the implication that as a category none of these artists deserve your attention, or that they're the fucking rap equiv of jerk music or something, or that they are permanently exiled to being less-covered than g-side when imo there's a huge variety w/in that stupid little bubble

but interpret it as me being 'butthurt' even though that makes no sense if you want

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:47 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

oh c'mon you are so butthurt.

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

super butthurt

rolling racks on racks >>> rolling regional thug >>> rolling white girl

but all fine choices

gonna be super fucking glad to see gun sounds go

'rolling i really need to have sex with tip thread' could be the rap thread OR the gay thread

btw i was on wikipedia and typed in 'boldy james' to see if he had an entry and all the mentions were from him being on songs with the cool kids and asher roth and big sean. this is a guy deej is excited about?

rolling tumblr white plz

everytime I hear 'china white' in a rap song nowadays I picture whiney going 'TUMBLR WHITE!' and making bugeyes

rolling tumblr white (up in the club)

'tumblr whites' has kept popping into my head in the last coupla days making me smile i admit

rolling tumblr white plz

― dayo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:11 PM (15 minutes ago)

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:24 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

it is a pejorative when a wide variety of artists are lumped into a category called 'regional THUGS' while certain particular artists are put into noble categores like 'hard working weedheads' and 'blue color rappers.' im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart for history & for perspective, that doesn't make me 'butthurt' & any time someone is angry you guys throw around 'butthurt!!!' like you've scored major points

btw i was on wikipedia and typed in 'boldy james' to see if he had an entry and all the mentions were from him being on songs with the cool kids and asher roth and big sean. this is a guy deej is excited about?

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah i'm as shocked as anyone. on his record there's even a cool kid guest verse (an asher roth one would have been distracting but i don't really have a problem w/ michael rocks, i actually really liked "cell dope" from earlier this year)

also fwiw i disagree that regional thug = has a big following, it's obviously true of a few artists on there but it isn't the case of boldy james particularly -- i mean he has fans, but not like the jacka does where he can live off regional money (at least not yet) nor do i see why having been smart enough to develop a scene regionally makes one a 'regional thug' as if its a permanent albatross to be hung around their necks

im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart

this is why you're hilarious fyi

'regional' has NEVER been pejorative in rap, it just means an artist that has the kind of LOCAL STREET LEVEL FOLLOWING that you value so much

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:24 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

it is a pejorative when a wide variety of artists are lumped into a category called 'regional THUGS' while certain particular artists are put into noble categores like 'hard working weedheads' and 'blue color rappers.' im angry about the lack of respect shown by the chart for history & for perspective, that doesn't make me 'butthurt' & any time someone is angry you guys throw around 'butthurt!!!' like you've scored major points

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:18 PM (16 minutes ago)

i kind of agree with this. more than anything using 'thug' perjoratively in this context attempts to dismiss gangster rap as a whole as dated or irrelevant; in a sense maybe it is, given what's popular on the charts and judging by what's getting the high-profile critical love

it might've been an inadvertent slight

anyway, stevenson dude otm

this is why you're hilarious fyi

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:33 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

why is that hilarious to you? these are artists trying to make careers & i certainly dont think they're above making fun of, but this was irresponsible imo

no, stevenson dude off tm

its not like im the only one thinking this
https://twitter.com/#!/Combat_Jack/status/141013331304660992

it's funny that you're still worked up over a SPIN magazine chart that will have zero real world impact

by what measure? by the measure of music writing? in that case we might as well give up now bcuz none of us will ever have real world impact, who reads blogs, lol

+ there are actual insults on that chart, i don't think "regional thugs and coke rappers" is one of them

well, you're wrong, it is one

we've gone over this before but the variety of artists in there is like 10x that of other categories, to me its not journalistic or historically responsible, i guess those arent concerns for you which is fine but i don't see why its wrong for me to say this or for you to think i'm overreacting or w/e

i mean it's not WRONG for you to say it, but it does make you look very petty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1PPlJfFzjs

deej looks nothing like tom petty

leave the dad jokes to the god, dayo

I'm the god of dad jokes?

i kind of agree with this. more than anything using 'thug' perjoratively in this context attempts to dismiss gangster rap as a whole as dated or irrelevant; in a sense maybe it is, given what's popular on the charts and judging by what's getting the high-profile critical love

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:38 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

exactly

over half of the artists get "dismissed" on that chart -- it's mildly snarky -- it's really not a big deal

+ there are actual insults on that chart, i don't think "regional thugs and coke rappers" is one of them

well, you're wrong, it is one

haha why?

for the reasons i've posted already

i guess i was looking for s.thing coherent but fair enough

are you really struggling with it? theres so much more variety in that little bubble than there is between any of the artists in virtually any other category

variety & range in terms of quality, as well

http://bensix.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/helen-lovejoy1.jpg

Will someone PLEASE thing of Killa Kyleon

*think

i can't believe i get to explain to lex AND deej in the same weekend that you don't get to decide when other people think you're funny

if only you could've worked a whiney ref into that

what is this year's throwback gem a la 2010's 'marcberg'?

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 10:54 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Most ppl would prolly say Action Bronson, but I'm more into the Kool G Rap

rolling cloud thread

yeah that KGR was freakin sweet

yeah i was gonna guess action bronson

i meant a new dude with a throwback NY style as opposed to an older mc, like AB, but thanks for reminding me to listen to that g rap i almost forgot about that

er AB is an example of the former obv, poorly placed parenthetical

I mean, G Rap kind of raps like Roc Marci now, so I think you'll like it!

sounds like a much better look than jay imitating kanye at least

feel like next year thread title should be worldstar inspired

rolling asian ratchetness thread

etc

do NOT remember posting in this thread the other day. how r we going to do the EOY goon report - do ppl want to do a poll?

altho obvs no EOY thing can be done before the french montana + waka tape drops...

forbez dvd >>> worldstar imo

btw I vote for new rolling thread title to be "blue color rappers"

i <3 kendrick lamar and his based introspectiveness

been jamming that schoolboy q too and his verse on the asap tape is real nice

franch has a tape with waka, then with three 6 mafia the next week

^^ very wavy xmas

per usual martorialist killed it
http://themartorialist.blogspot.com/2011/12/token-best-rap-songs-of-2011-list-post.html

wish i hadn't missed this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipX6I6oDto

not really feelin that *shrug*

not really feelin you

that beat knocks like gin rummy, raps are dope, what more are you looking for

i apologize for not liking a song you like? *shrugsford brimley*

apology not accepted. listen to it 30x on loop or tell me what you think of keedy black & sess 4-5's "I Luv Dat Boy" & report back

man boldy james rules. def feel the mobb deep by way of detroit vibe

that martorialist singles list is what the fuck is up

obv

i knew m@tt would like the boldy james "pumpin gas" track, that shit is like ground zero 90s rap-a-lot shit, down to the standoff storytelling rap at the dice game that is so straightforward on a narrative level ("he shot (BANG BANG) I shot (RATATATAT) -- as you can see i cold smoked his ass") and yet the rapping itself is not in any way cartoonish

martorialist rules

"E-40 ft. B-Legit - 43"

Yeah thats my sleeper pick of the year, my most listened to track on any of the Revenue Retrievin series. B Legit is pure muscle on that.

although i halfheartedly defended currensy from whiney on this thread (and "this ain't no mixtape" is still >>> his releases this year) ive totally had the same issues w/ both him & jacka this year

although i still like the alchemist/currensy tape the most

rolling codeine abuse thread