and because blaqkout is better
― dealwithit.gif, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
haven't listened to Book of David yet :(
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Blaqkout is tight.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
wtf shakey
"book of david" for me - it's a much more personal record for one thing, and imo has stronger songs and writing. guest spots are all great. highs are just as high as blaqkout, which obv i love too. I think the songcraft is stronger on "book of david" and the production is real close - the production on blaqkout tends to jump out at you more but "the book of david"'s is real solid throughout
also
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
also it has a new "quik's groove" which is an automatic win
I love them both. BOD is likely in my top three.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
i like 'book of david' a lot more -- i think the songwriting is better, it being less experimental works for it, also quik's rapping is so absurdly good on this
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
I know I know I'll get around to it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout is more interesting, book of david probably stronger, v. different projects, almost feels wrong to compare them
i think probably a lot of people were just discovering quik with blaqkout maybe why there's some disappointment that this one is more low stakes?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i have fav songs from both ("do you know" "cream in ya panties" "so compton," the kurupt joint) that i like more than lots of other songs on both.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I really like BoD - have yet to listen properly to Blaqkout. One thing I like about BoD is the consistent point of view that pulls the whole thing together thematically - Blaqkout seems to have less of that.
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
yes i agree w/ that
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout by far for me. funnier, more emotional, more exciting from song to song.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout a lot more creative to me
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout is great and has some things over BoD but being more emotional is certainly not one of them
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't mean more emotional as in personal for quik, i meant the emotion it elicits in the listener - nothing on BoD comes close to the sheer rush of joy i get when i hear "hey playa" for instance
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
and blaqkout is a lot more VIVID to me, i think that word best describes what i'm trying to get at here
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout was more of a left turn stylistically ('creatively') but i don't know if that makes it a better album
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
i almost feel like it's more of a novelty in quik's catalog while BoD is a better continuation of his distinct style
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
why wouldn't it? i don't see why more personal songwriting and less exciting styles would make BoD a better album
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout is definitely more reliant on the WHOA factor
i consider that a point in its favour
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, December 1, 2011 4:27 PM (6 minutes ago)
well the rapping is much better on BoD imo - the production on blaqkout is designed to jump out at you but it's not really better than his work on BoD, which is also top-notch
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
like once you get over the WHOA factor, which i agree is there, it's just another (great) quik album
oh i def disagree about the rapping. blaqkout is wittier, more quotable, the sound of their voices working with/against the beat is more intricate
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
abstaining because i still haven't listened to BoD but i am having a hard time imagining it being better than blaQKout
― wil smif, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
blaqkout has oh and hey playa and it's hard to hang with thatbook of david is still top ten of the year tho
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
i've said this before but blaqkout is the best rap album of the past five years. agree with lex about how colorful and vivid it is setting it apart. also the interaction and bonhomie between quik and kurupt is a major factor in how great it is. i actually kind of feel that it not being per se an album about quik while still being totally imbued with his personality works to its advantage. book of david is like top 3 this year tho.
― furnace mane, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
would you say their bonhomie is...svelte?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
who is furnace mane
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
louis jagger
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
ha, y'all we can just say louis jagger all up in this bitch
i like kurupt as a rapper of course but i think quik being able to dominate BoD puts it over the top for me -- it's such a spiteful album
there's such a great singularity in BoD b/w the perspective of the writing and the production -- i mean you could say the same thing about blaqkout of course, but it's stronger for me w/ BoD
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
this is like the great 'new amerykah 1 vs new amerykah 2' debate of 2010
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
who's louis jagger
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
david drake
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
Just listened to Book of David. This guy is all right by me.
― dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
"it's such a spiteful album"
I dont really get this from BoD on a whole. It has a couple spiteful tracks that are right up front, but its still pretty much just normal Quik throughout. BlaQKout has Fuck Y'all after all.
― Scotty Magee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
who is joey joe joe junior shabadoo?
― furnace mane, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
jay blanchard
― Foolio Iglesias, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
"Killer Dope" is prob. my favorite track from BoD: love that dumb trumpet.
― dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
Still cant get enough of those damn drums on Fire & Brimstone, and that heeeeeeeummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hypnotic hum in the background.
"I'm a Mercedes man, a late 80's manI guess you could call me the perennial ladies man...
I'm a precious stone, wrapped in parchment paperRound brilliant cut, shootin' ????????????????I'M A DIGNITERY, you're a lowly beggaWhy don't you pull your plug, you stupid negga"
Can anyone fill in that blank? Love that verse.
― Scotty Magee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
― Scotty Magee, Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:38 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
i think this is right but having spent less time with bod these tracks really jump out in my mind.
― cad, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
They are 2 of the best tracks on it.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
Both followed by ladies jams, natch.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
Cream n ya Panties is probably my favorite produced beat of the last 5 years.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Deej otm about these being hard to stack against each other. BoD has more in common with Trauma and Under Tha Influence which I rate all about the same (2nd tier).
The production on BlaQKout is so much fun. The whole project feels like a weird ass mistake, in a good way of course.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
who is deej itt?
― Scotty Magee, Thursday, December 1, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
jagermeister
― furnace mane, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
deej is jjjjs right
― cad, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
sandbox screen name reshuffle is so confusing :/
― furnace mane, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
voted bod, the production is so great and definitely not a step backward, it's all in the details.
― sisilafami, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Book of David for me, but it's really like comparing two high quality cuisines.
i love Kurupt and the songs on Blaqkout are hella dope, but Book of David has Quik giving off this aire of being in complete control, like he's in the zone for the entire record. "Ghetto Rendezvous" just cuts to the bone...
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Friday, 2 December 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
and the groove/hook on "Real Women"
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
ill probably start defending whichever one seems like it's losing at some point. each of these records do very different things
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Friday, 2 December 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
haha, yes. Having a hard time deciding. Might just be an atm decision.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
"i mean i know quik has always had that attitude but it seems pronounced on BoD in a lot of places"
Yeah maybe a little more than normal, but I still wouldn't classify this as a spiteful album. Semantics, idk? The fact that it follows such a buoyant and bouncy album definitely makes it *seem* more subdued.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
I enjoy Blaqkout more but there is something about how personal BoD feels that really gets to me. Also 'Ghetto Rendezvous' might be the coldest track I've ever heard.
― pandemic, Friday, 2 December 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
The Book of David is a very good (if overlong) album but it doesn't quite have the riotous energy that makes Blaqkout a great one. Blaqkout benefits from it brevity as well, there's barely a wasted moment on there.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 December 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for this thread, btw. I prob never would've heard Book of David otherwise, and it's really great.
― dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
we r here 4 u
― v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
on first listen I'd rate BoD higher than Blaqkout but yeah its such a different animal
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
otoh oh look another phoned-in Ice Cube verse
yeah that cube verse was pretty weak gotta say
(your boy) KK brings it though and all jon b's hooks are nice too
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 December 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah was disappointed in that Cube verse. Still bummed that AMG or Hi-C isnt on it.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
I like the "You a genius" "No, you a genius" bit
― Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Cube's (apparently entirely unironic) reuse of that green/bill bixby line is just sad.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
LOVE LOVE LOVE BOTH OF THESE FOR ALL TIME DONT KNOW WHAT I WILL VOTE FOR YET THO
― Carnitas, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
cube's entire presence is worth it for the exchange that he & quik have at the end
― v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sayin
― Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
The only words I know on this album are the sample of the British dude enthusing about "West Coast America."
― dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
you know where that sample is from?
― Carnitas, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
No -- I tried to look it up but couldn't find anything.
― dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
i've always assumed it was malcolm mclaren. if not dude sounds just like him.
― pandemic, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
I suspected McClaren but i tried in vain to find the source material
― Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
― Scotty Magee, Friday, December 2, 2011 6:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
the only Cube verse I've even liked in recent years was his guest verse on Killer Mike's "Pressure" from like 3 years ago. Even that wasn't prime Cube quality but he was actually saying something for once.
I Am the West was straight ass though.
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
Semi-related to this thread, but def related to your username:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0gpIKfcCmc
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
Even that wasn't prime Cube quality but he was actually saying something for once.
yeah he has been so so bad for years now, its sort of flabbergasting. he just does not give a shit.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
also has no ear for beats anymore, which is why he raps over some extremely generic, nondescript music.
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
He probably only raps as an attempt to keep his street cred.
― Scotty Magee, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
dunno how well that's working out for him tbh
he obviously doesn't need the money
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
there's a small part of me that hopes his acting in movies like Are We There Yet? is a ruse to set up the final film in the series where he kills all of his kids and starts shooting up South Central and playing basketball with his victims heads
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
so motherfuckin Compton!
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:14 PM (1 hour ago)
― Scotty Magee, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:20 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:21 PM (56 minutes ago)
and yet...the coors light commercial
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
haha waht I missed that
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LaVHZcr3shttp://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_9jIsXp8sQQ
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
rmde
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
Embarrassing.
― Scotty Magee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of like the Bun B verse, but someone on here referred to it as "Dr Seuss rap" or something, which - I have to admit - is a funny line.
― o. nate, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
that was me ^_^
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Ha - I still think of that whenever I listen to that song.
― o. nate, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Still dont know how to vote for this
― Scotty Magee, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
i woulda let this run later but i was kinda like "eh, ilx will be back up in no time!"
― v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
listened to both of them pretty recently gotta go with blaqkout just because it feels so infectiously playful and unpredictable, even if it's actually deceptively serious in the same way book of david is deceptively fun
― sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
"even if it's actually deceptively serious in the same way book of david is deceptively fun"
I like that.
― Scotty Magee, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, good line
― furnace mane, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Wanted a tie :/
― Scotty Magee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
kind of not surprised, the record that took a few more risks ends up being more memorable i think. i probably agree w/ these results
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link