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marmot hath zung

I'm listening to my neglected copy of Blur right now because of you and rather enjoying it, so it's all good.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to Trouble in the Message Centre; He Thought of Cars and Yuko and Hiro. Though I've gone back to listening to Neil Diamond and Justin Hayward since then.

― KeefW (KeefW), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Listening to songs because they were discussed on ILM: C/D?

*puts Yuko And Hiro on*

oh, the power of suggestion

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never heard that song louis. but i'll have to say it was probably stolen from railroad jerk. or girl against boys.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"You're So Great" is nearly a dead-on mid-'90s GbV rip. Only other thing they could have done was to not have used a slide on the guitar solo and called it "Airplanes Flying Me Backwards" or something.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

essex dogs apparently bears some resemblance to sonic youth, but aside from the fact that the guitar sounds are quite dissonant/raucous, and the spoken-word free-verse, i can't really make the leap. care to take that one on, marmot?

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah it doesn't really sound like SY to me.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Slint with more fiddly shit?

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm, ugh. but do you like it? (THIS IS CRUCIAL AS TO WHETHER I SHALL EVER SPEAK TO YOU ON ILM AGAIN) ;-)

― Thus Spake Scourage (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

louis this is your worst thread yet

-- electric sound of jim (esoj@), December 3rd, 2006.

qft

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the sandbox has made people lose their sense of decorum

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

just because there aren't amusing wrestler gifs every other post and/or the prevalence of ILM's bully brigade waxing flatulent over some pathetic, outdated meme, doesn't mean you can fling yourself into the paddling-pool and spoil our innocent fun, passantino.

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the song fine, Louis. It doesn't sound much like Slint either, I just don't know that much '90s indie with quiet spoken vocals. I was a GbV/Pavement/Flaming Lips/Mercury Rev guy.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and Chavez since Matt brought them up. I still have vinyl copies of their first 7" and LP.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

early Rev? mid-period Lips? *eyes light up*

the Rev's first two albums are up in my top 20 of the decade, and a conglomerate best-of would have made top-3.

just think...

1) MOARK
2) Chasing A Bee
3) Syringe Mouth
4) Downs Are Feminine Balloons
5) Trickle Down
6) Black And Blue
7) Something For Joey
8) Snorry Mouth
9) Hi-Speed Boats
10) Frittering
11) one of the drunks/thunder interludes
12) Very Sleepy Rivers

as i said, i'm buying chavez' entirety. looking forward immensely to it.

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"death of the party" is an attempt at a '90s version of "how soon is now?", too.

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

correction: 6) Blue And Black

death of a party and how soon is now share a bit where the guitar plays a high note and then slides down about a semitone, but that aside i can't see the similarity.

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, without the drunks/thunder interlude it comes to 79:24, which is just about as much music as you can fit on a CD. that album would be incredible.

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

early Rev? mid-period Lips? *eyes light up*

I also own like 3 CDs each of The Mars Volta, GYBE and Yes but don't get too excited.

My favorite Rev bit is actually the flutey outro of Empire State.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

*physically restrains self*

Of course, if your Yes albums are 'Drama', '90125' and 'Tormato' my vigour shall be somewhat deflated...

See You On The Other Side is a shameful omission from my collection. I've heard it a couple of times, and it's pretty good, but for it to click I need to buy a copy.

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Yes Album, Fragile, Close To The Edge...oh, and a CD-R of Relayer.

SYOTOS is the first Rev album I owned as a kid, that's probably why it's my favorite. I actually wanted Boces since I had only heard "Car Wash Hair", "Bronx Cheer" and "Young Man's Stride" and liked BC the best but SYOTOS was all they had at the shop, it had just come out. "Bronx Cheer" is still my favorite of their short, poppy singles stuff.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

re: Yes albums, OTM! (but it was always going to be!)

oh to have been a kid in the early-90's...

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Bahahaha if you Google "See You On The Other Side" now you get a bunch of links to a 2005 Korn album.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

this is really sweet, you guys : )

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah hey Louis I like Mogwai too, wanna cyber?

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

go on then! shall see if messenger thingy still working

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

thing is, dude was screwing his marmot

― and what (ooo), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahahaha

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

oh waht it was only a meme :-(

― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/you-somewhatsurprised.gif

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I've not got the time or inclination to deal with this bizarre dying horse of a thread, but somewhere up there someone said that a; Radiohead have great production, and b; their songwriting communicates something emotionally that Blur don't. These points are both utterly ridiculous. Radiohead are Floyd for Nirvana fans with degrees, and Blur wrote To The End, The Universal, Beetlebum and This Is A Low, three more emotionally resonant songs than Thom Yorke could ever concoct.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

balls. emotional resonance is in the wonky eye of the beholder.

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, which is why to suggest that Blur have none is patently ridiculous. Also, more emotions exist than faint existential ennui / paranoia.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously, what does it matter if something's easy/difficult to make.
YA RLY. Ramones? FUCK THAT SHIT! DREAM THEATER!!!!

Uh, yes, yes, that really does prove your point.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

And also why it's ridiculous to suggest Blur have more emotional resonance than Radiohead

xpost

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

God I hate The Universal so much. Enough Andrew Lloyd Webber already.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? I'm surprised. I think it's one of Blur's best tunes, easily.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, more emotions exist than faint existential ennui / paranoia.

Yes, obviously those are the only two things Radiohead do because it's so easy to say... *burp* scratch... can't be bothered anymore. You say subjective I say potato.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a horrendous sense of schmaltz in Blur ballads that sets my teeth on end, and that's the worst culprit. I don't like To The End much for the same reason.

I don't actually like Blur very much at all but I find the ballads accentuate the things I hate about them more than the others. Bearing in mind I've listened to Blur more than pretty much any other band I dislike.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha! Well obviously I'm playing deliberately reductive devil's advocate. I do think though that Blur have a wider emotional palette than Radiohead - I don't think Radiohead could ever do something that moves me in the way that "Girls & Boys" or "Song 2" do, and I think those emotional directions are just as, if not more, profound and worthwhile than the kind of thing that Radiohead seem to get lauded for. I'm not saying I think Blur are better or anything - I'm not mad keen on either band, I just quite like them both - but I think rubbishing Blur's emotional resonance is silly.

x-post.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey I DON'T MIND BLUR (for the third time)

anyway for "emotional resonance" Coffee and TV >>>>>>>>>> To The End, Beetlebum and This Is A Low. NOT THAT THEY AREN'T ALSO QUITE NICE SONGS, And I totally hate The Universal too.

What was that lead single off "Think Tank" btw? If that wasn't Blur-doing-Radiohead (pretty damn well) I don't know what was.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

'Out Of Time' wasn't as good as Radiohead tho. I'm still amazed it made the ILM 00s top 100 2 years back (and more amazed that i managed to think of something 'good' to say about it).

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"Out Of Time" sounds bog-all like radiohead to me?!

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Radiohead just don't do grating (sometimes in a good way, sometimes "Crazy Beat") pop songs... and aren't really a pop band.

Thom Yorke for all his faults (hell I was saying they rely on the same kind of song far too often myself before) annoys me a million times less that Damon Albarn, who pushes my "fuck off twat" button nearly every time he opens his mouth.

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

WANK TANK - CALL IT BY ITS NAME.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, you see I have much more time for damon than for Thom.

― Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Blur, up to "Parklife" were pretty much unstoppable, after that, eh. There seems to be some kind of mental block w/britishes bands, post-eighties where as soon as it looks like they're really going to take off musically & in terms of greater "success" generally, they have to pull on the brakes in some way, it seems maybe? I have no idea what the fuck I'm on about obv. Radiohead are OK, but nothing I have by them I like as much as "Parklife" or "Modern Life is Rubbish". Then again, neither of those records I like as much as Dark Star's "20 20 Sound" or Levitation's "Need for Not" and "Coterie" from around the same time ish.

― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - I admire both of them fine and yeah Damon's probably stretched his imagination a lot further than Thom ever will if that makes you happy/vindicated? That alone doesn't make me warm to Blur anymore though. It's a bit apple & orangey this...

― Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link

it's the enthusiasm of a 19-yr-old (which is great!), but not the frame of reference! i have said this before, but what i really don't get about louis is that the stuff he says these things about is the stuff people my age and a bit older would have eulogised when they were louis' age! i am pretty sure that most 19-yr-olds do not listen to mansun or blur or godspeed whatsit. people who are 25 did, when they were 19.

HAHA! This coming from you Lex is... is.. I dunno. I know you weren't being mean here but being baffled by Louis's taste baffles me since (as far as I'm concerned) your taste is more in line with that of a 14 year old girl than a 20 something bloke. ;-)

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

14 year old girls listen to Dominik Eulberg?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

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