Digital-only Releases C or D? (nuance appreciated)

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soooooooo many cool little metal labels. thanks to the internet! and they know they aren't gonna get rich selling a hundred copies of some crazy collectable, but they love it to death and so do i. (even if i don't buy them all. i just love that they are doing it.)

scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

the little labels are gonna have to do one HELL of a job to get people to come to their sites and pay for one album at a time

The services that supply tons of stuff for a monthly fee have to get the content from somewhere. The labels will still serve a purpose there.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, definitely.

scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And in a few years you'll all have thrown out the CDs and Vinyl will be on the wall. Sad but true.

OTM... I think I said in another thread, I live in NY and have been paying like $1000 per month for like 20 years to house all my CDs, records and yes tapes. I am thinking about moving and NOW all the stuff isn't worth half of what it might have been if I had ebayed it just a few years ago.

My worry with regard to this thread is principally the people who will get taken advantage of by this model, not the inevitability of the process itself.

But what I am getting is that Digital-Only releases are CLASSIC, yes?

That is very interesting I think.

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, I hadn't realized that posting on ILX was an accepted form of promotion... All indications appear contrary to that.

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

It's totally not accepted, unless perhaps you're a regular poster and manage to slip your promotion in with a wink and a nod. Did you know I'll be djing the backroom of Union Pool in Williamsburg this saturday? At midnight and it's free.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

As a weirdo audiophile, or something, I weep.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark my words, within a few years we'll all be streaming 96khz 8million bit super hi-def digital audio into our homes and directly into our brains. It doesn't seem well publicised, but there's already a service or two that specializes in downloading lossless audio, and I'm assuming more will emerge soon.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

About time too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

As a weirdo audiophile, or something, I weep.

i agree with dan that super hi-def files will eventually be fed into our brains like air and water. but i don't weep for the world's weirdo audiophiles now, and i won't weep for them then. normal people always have, and always will, choose convenience over fidelity. this explains 8-track tapes and the walkman and the ipod and pretty much every other form of dominant listening formats ever. and getting music is in fact getting more convenient and easy every day. i cheer for this.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

vinyl + download certificate is the best imo.

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

agreed.

Merge had the best thing, sell vinyl and include a CD-r. Even better, sell vinyl and include a code for DL or something. A lot of my friend's labels are talking about doing limited edition vinyl and download only.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm with you there!

scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i got a kick out of albini including a loose CD of the last shellac album along with the vinyl box of the album. just kinda thrown in there like it was nothing.

scott seward (121212), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic if you have the patience to rip stuff to CD-R and file with your regular CDs (like I do).

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to do that but now I barely ever take the CD's off the shelf

I agree that it will be digital-only sooner rather than later

the two things I worry about are --
1) future format incompatibility
2) hard drive crashes

I mean, I back my shit up, but still.

dmr (dmr), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i know lots of people in small labels and small bands, and they've been saying vinyl now outsells cds when yr out on tour by far...

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

1) future format incompatibility
2) hard drive crashes

There is a debate that will rage regarding whether you want to have all the files yourself, or have them streamed. Being in various digital media industries, it's something that comes up. I can see a point where my entire music collection isn't even in my house, it's on several servers owned by some huge company who can afford both the security and redundancy to have my media on their hard-drives in some fire-proof, weather-proof building somewhere. Think about it, I already do it with my email. The chances of Yahoo losing my email are probably a lot less then losing it myself when my harddrive fails.

This all depends on bandwidth, of course. Untill it's good enough, the benefit of having the media in your house is the ability to use it when you want and not wait for it.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i know lots of people in small labels and small bands, and they've been saying vinyl now outsells cds when yr out on tour by far...

How does the digital sell for them at shows?

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

not well.

just m@tt he1g3s0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a conern brought up in some new newsletter by the dude who runs discmakers. Some artists don't tour. Some artists don't even make music anymore! The idea that record labels only means of survival is selling music at shows is a depressing one.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The idea that record labels only means of survival is selling music at shows is a depressing one.

I know a certain artist on a certain very famous label that was the largest single distributor of their records, selling 1200 of them for the famous label in question. This particular artist was buying them for $8 each too, so the label was making a huge profit!

I find that very depressing too...

Is anyone still going to be reading this? (Is this thing on?) Is there a way to go "nu" on this thread?

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone know if perlon is profitable? they do NO digital stuff.

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

super lame if the artist has to pay wholesale for their own CDs! Maybe that's how it's always done? What do I know.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i've seen that happen quite a bit with local bands, esp those on real or fake-indie major labels

esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

*cough* KILL ROCK STARS

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

xcuse me are you sexy dancer

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 22 February 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

sexy dancer is usually more enigmatic then this.

dan selzer (dan selzer), Thursday, 22 February 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link


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