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Bring back the All Seeing I, I say!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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from where i'm sitting don't feel like dancing was the biggest hit of the year (shh gnarls barkley) but was it because scissor sister sang it?

― acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's because it's catchy, inoffensive and easy on the ear if not necessarily on mine.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I note the "d-d-d-d-dance" two years post-"Graffiti My Soul."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It felt kinda lacklustre to me when compared to the singles from before--they didn't seem to really be enjoying it in the same way.

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i had been here, for this thread.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's because the general public liked it. xpost a bit.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not really in it to enjoy themselves anymore; they're in it to score an international hit which they didn't manage with anything off their first (and better) album.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

'sexy back' and 'maneater' felt bigger than sizzasizzaz. none in the league of 'crazy' though.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Indeed not.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back the All Seeing I seconded, btw.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Only heard Sexy Back once or twice, not much of an opinion, but JT's new one is woeful

All Seeing I comeback thirded

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, full disclosure: JT new one heard all of once

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back the All Seeing I seconded, btw.

Done. Sorta.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

All Seeing I = not actually much cop without guest vocalists

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

But when the whole schtick is guest vocalists, who can blame them?

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jarvis = guest vocallist. As was Tony Christie, etc.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think maneater and sexyback were quite as big as don't feel like dancing certianly in all round appeal type way. don't think either of them straddled the radio 1 radio 2 divide in quite the same way.

― acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

but it's the diff between 'felt big' and 'were big', isn't it - like the diff between 'beyonce is a huge star&diva' and 'beyonce's latest album has not sold as much as you'd expect'. Manester and SexyBack felt like Event Singles, in a way that other records which had more long-term/wideranging popularity didn't.

― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, it's the difference between "nelly furtado shows up on red carpet, or maybe doesn't, wearing whatever, and no one notices" and "nelly furtado shows up on red carpet in glamorous dress and gets on the front page of the paper the next day"

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

ie 'i don't feel like dancing' may have been bigger than 'maneater' but 'maneater' made nelly furtado bigger than the scissor sisters

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"I Don't Feel Like Dancing" god ridiculous play on The Hits, The Box, and all your other friendly neighbourhood music video stations, possibly as a legion of young men tried to work out if fancying Ana Matronic makes them gay.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

*got ridiculous

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Maneater and Sexyback didn't get played on Radio 2, except on Gambaccini's Billboard chart rundown.

They weren't event singles because they didn't engage the whole spectrum of consumers; only a certain section. Of course any act's new single will be an "event" to their fans, but that's not quite the same thing.

Examples of "event singles" would include Do They Know It's Christmas, Roll With It/Country House, Free As A Bird, Candle In The Wind '97 and Patience.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

all of those are really, really awful.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not talking about their quality. I'm talking about their being event singles.

I suppose the next Kylie single, whatever that turns out to be, will also qualify.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i have heard 'maneater' and 'sexyback' a grillion mo times than 'don't feel like dancing' or even 'crazy'. 'sexyback' was much more of an event track than any of them.

welcome to the world of objective fact, bitches.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

wrf is 'patience'?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

take that

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't see where Paris Hilton fits in there.

Throw the words around a bit and the answer would be: any dick if it's attached to a camera.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The only way in which Timberlake has ever been an event is standing next to Janet Jackson when that happened. That's how he'll be remembered.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a fickle world; there's no ay of knowing that. but i think he's as likely to be remembered as the scissor sisters.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

whether or not jt is remembered is completely irrelevant, isn't this a discussion which has been had a gazillion times?

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

it's so irrevelevant that i've already forgotten who he is.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, much like you masturbating over Paris/Ciara/Beyonce/Cassie/your name here ad infinitum (xpost).

I ask you for the second time: why do you hang around threads which you don't like?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the talk of event singles or indeed event albums sort of leads back on topic. i mean paris and jarvis were both presented as events yet neither lived up to it really. stars are blind did go top 5 though admitedly the follow up peaked 50 places lower. anyway it seems like both were hoped to be events for different demographics. erm cultureshowpop or maybe G2pop vs londonlitepop...

― acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

jarvis really has not been all that hyped.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Well it just shows what a pretty pass things are in when 3000 sales gets you into the top five.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

grammar: "3000 sales GET you into the top five"

OMM did a pretty miserable job of hyping Cocker in the last-but-one issue.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

ok been over this it felt hyped to me. nme cover, OMM, culture show, lots on radio4 he had his own series then a bunch of stuff on other shows and i kept seeing features on him also big posters in front of record stores suggested it was expected to do something more than it did.

― acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

However, being on Rough Trade, it was unlikely to do more than it did, commercially.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno the libertines and the strokes both got no 1s whilst on rough trade...

― acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

re hype -- paris doesn't get the same kind of hype, she just gets 'items', gossipy things. jarvis gets interviews and whatnot.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is more useful?

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

personally, i think jarvis is a more interesting public figure.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Because of Jarvis or because of Paris?

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

well i missed the radio shows on art schools but that's a subject that interests me and obviously el jarv belongs to that lineage, even if i'm not so interested in his music now (never was particularly, thnking about it -- i have maybe two pulp 45s). could paris say something interesting about anything? yet to see evidence of this, and i'll take my two pulp records over her stuff. the missus likes them both, but i reckon she'd opt for jarvis in the long-run. she sent me the richard x thing w. jarv, but i didn't d/l (full disclosure).

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

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