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re: people not knowing jarvis for his music, don't 'disco 2000' and 'common people' still get wheeled out a fair bit? incidental music and those channel 4 lists and stuff.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

3) No they were, just that "Different Class" was everso crossover. Such that everyone owned one.

I don't think this was much of a factor. How well do you think 'Stop The Clocks' will sell despite everyone already owning everything on it?

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Not even "Common People"/"Disco 2000"?

xposts

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

(i.e. what lex said)

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It wasn't What's The Story (Morning Glory)? in the 1995 everyone owned one stakes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

There are times on the album when Jarvis sounds like he's trying to make The Drift, particularly when he uses the same string arranger and the same percussionist.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

and paris had done "i don't feel like dancing"...

i would've liked the song better had she done it i think (probably just something to do with expecting better of the Scissor Sisters and not expecting something of that nature from Paris)

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Scissor Sisters songs are usually OK when it's not the Scissor Sisters doing them (Kylie "I Believe In You").

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It wasn't What's The Story (Morning Glory)? in the 1995 everyone owned one stakes.

this surely sold a lot more than Different Class overall.

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Which I believe is what I was saying.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Scissor Sisters songs are usually OK when it's not the Scissor Sisters doing them (Kylie "I Believe In You").

funny, this is exactly what i realised the other day about...chris fucking martin. 'see it in a boy's eyes', 'should i go', 'all good things (come to an end)'...

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i would've liked the song better had she done it i think (probably just something to do with expecting better of the Scissor Sisters and not expecting something of that nature from Paris)

Agreed, "I Don't Feel Like Dancing" sounded completely like the SS (see what I did there?) had just given up with the first single (the new one isn't any better)

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The trouble with Jarvis is that it just lumbers along ponderously like a Bob Geldof solo album.

But his lyrics work perfectly with Air's music and Gainsbourg's voice on 5:55 so maybe that's the way he needs to go in the future.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back the All Seeing I, I say!

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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from where i'm sitting don't feel like dancing was the biggest hit of the year (shh gnarls barkley) but was it because scissor sister sang it?

― acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's because it's catchy, inoffensive and easy on the ear if not necessarily on mine.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I note the "d-d-d-d-dance" two years post-"Graffiti My Soul."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It felt kinda lacklustre to me when compared to the singles from before--they didn't seem to really be enjoying it in the same way.

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i had been here, for this thread.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's because the general public liked it. xpost a bit.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not really in it to enjoy themselves anymore; they're in it to score an international hit which they didn't manage with anything off their first (and better) album.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

'sexy back' and 'maneater' felt bigger than sizzasizzaz. none in the league of 'crazy' though.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Indeed not.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back the All Seeing I seconded, btw.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Only heard Sexy Back once or twice, not much of an opinion, but JT's new one is woeful

All Seeing I comeback thirded

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, full disclosure: JT new one heard all of once

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back the All Seeing I seconded, btw.

Done. Sorta.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

All Seeing I = not actually much cop without guest vocalists

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

But when the whole schtick is guest vocalists, who can blame them?

― tissp! (tissp!), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jarvis = guest vocallist. As was Tony Christie, etc.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think maneater and sexyback were quite as big as don't feel like dancing certianly in all round appeal type way. don't think either of them straddled the radio 1 radio 2 divide in quite the same way.

― acrobat (acrobat), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

but it's the diff between 'felt big' and 'were big', isn't it - like the diff between 'beyonce is a huge star&diva' and 'beyonce's latest album has not sold as much as you'd expect'. Manester and SexyBack felt like Event Singles, in a way that other records which had more long-term/wideranging popularity didn't.

― cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, it's the difference between "nelly furtado shows up on red carpet, or maybe doesn't, wearing whatever, and no one notices" and "nelly furtado shows up on red carpet in glamorous dress and gets on the front page of the paper the next day"

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

ie 'i don't feel like dancing' may have been bigger than 'maneater' but 'maneater' made nelly furtado bigger than the scissor sisters

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"I Don't Feel Like Dancing" god ridiculous play on The Hits, The Box, and all your other friendly neighbourhood music video stations, possibly as a legion of young men tried to work out if fancying Ana Matronic makes them gay.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

*got ridiculous

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Maneater and Sexyback didn't get played on Radio 2, except on Gambaccini's Billboard chart rundown.

They weren't event singles because they didn't engage the whole spectrum of consumers; only a certain section. Of course any act's new single will be an "event" to their fans, but that's not quite the same thing.

Examples of "event singles" would include Do They Know It's Christmas, Roll With It/Country House, Free As A Bird, Candle In The Wind '97 and Patience.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

all of those are really, really awful.

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not talking about their quality. I'm talking about their being event singles.

I suppose the next Kylie single, whatever that turns out to be, will also qualify.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i have heard 'maneater' and 'sexyback' a grillion mo times than 'don't feel like dancing' or even 'crazy'. 'sexyback' was much more of an event track than any of them.

welcome to the world of objective fact, bitches.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

wrf is 'patience'?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

take that

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't see where Paris Hilton fits in there.

Throw the words around a bit and the answer would be: any dick if it's attached to a camera.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The only way in which Timberlake has ever been an event is standing next to Janet Jackson when that happened. That's how he'll be remembered.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a fickle world; there's no ay of knowing that. but i think he's as likely to be remembered as the scissor sisters.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

whether or not jt is remembered is completely irrelevant, isn't this a discussion which has been had a gazillion times?

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

it's so irrevelevant that i've already forgotten who he is.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, much like you masturbating over Paris/Ciara/Beyonce/Cassie/your name here ad infinitum (xpost).

I ask you for the second time: why do you hang around threads which you don't like?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the talk of event singles or indeed event albums sort of leads back on topic. i mean paris and jarvis were both presented as events yet neither lived up to it really. stars are blind did go top 5 though admitedly the follow up peaked 50 places lower. anyway it seems like both were hoped to be events for different demographics. erm cultureshowpop or maybe G2pop vs londonlitepop...

― acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

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