Turkish guys in North London adopting Jamaican patois: C/D

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"Yish you ish bam-bar-clart, yish?"

― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Biggest semantic overhaul in the UK since Estuary whiteboys started talking in Bangladeshi accents, surely?

― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Biggest semantic overhaul in the UK since Estuary whiteboys started talking in Bangladeshi accents, surely?

this happened?? AWESOME.

― stevie (stevie2), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

It was in the news a few years back!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4171644.stm

― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

and greeks, the b-boys of the med

― Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"semantic"

― mark sinker (mark s), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Should have been "sociolinguistics"?

― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I will admit although I'd been aware of this trend for a few months now, I only started this thread after watching one of those awful "OMG CRIME WTF?" documentaries on Bravo.

― White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"In Cardiff I've heard a number of accent mixes that weren't previously heard before such as Cardiff-Arabic and Cardiff-Hindi.

This kind of blows my mind.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

how bout "ethnovernacular"

― mark sinker (mark s), Friday, 16 February 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Incredibly, no google hits for "ethnovernacular"! Remember to bookmark this thread mark, so you can claim precedence when it's everywhere in a couple of years.

― Ole Martin Halck (OleM), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

this = u&k obv

― mark sinker (mark s), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Patois is in the speech of all non-wealthy migrants to London under the age of 35...and most of the wealthy ones innit. My housemate Ayse, for example, is a Turkish drum'n'bass vixen from North London.

― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Turkish drum n' bass could be fun

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't see enough written about or programmes made about the Turkish community in London, it's massive

― Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Incredibly, no google hits for "ethnovernacular"! Remember to bookmark this thread mark, so you can claim precedence when it's everywhere in a couple of years.

I thought I invented "downlooted" yesterday, but Google says no :(

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I poopoo google, and credit it to you.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Turkish drum n' bass could be fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6XmGdHnv4&NR

― jw (ex machina), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

NEEDS BEATS

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

A. tells me that when she was at this d&b club she caught some Turkish girl slagging off her DJ boyfriend, and this girl was acting clever because she thought nobody in the room understood her. A is very light for a Turk and surprised her with 'WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SALAK?!?' ('salak' means 'idiot' in Turkish).

― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

oddly enuff last year i helped edit* a book abt the experiences of the first main wave of turkish cypriot immigrants (1935-65) into the uk

*(ie with technical editing stuff: i had zero qualifications in re special knowledge abt cyprus) (but it was v.interesting: one thing a lot of the older ones talk abt is the DEADLY LONDON FOG, now only available in basil-rathbone-plays-sherlock-holmes movies)

― mark sinker (mark s), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

There was period about six to eight months ago when a load of the Turksih lads around Holloway adopted a sort of med-rockabilly/ twisted James Dean look. Didn't last very long, which was a shame because they looked hella hot like that, even the not very attractive ones.

― SandboxAnna (SandboxAnna), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I miss Harringay :(

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Anna, Ayse used to be a rockabilly before she discovered raving before she discovered dnb. And that is her manor.

― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Sunday, 18 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

The guy who works in the corner shop near me (on Green Lanes unsurprisingly) talks in this amazing Turkish / Bangladeshi / Jamaican / norf Landan crossover patois. I can't understand a thing he says, maybe because I'm middle class.

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 18 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

He's not Turkish, but I was looking after my very middle-class 12 year-old cousin the other day, and his friend came round. Instantly he starts talking in this ridiculous high-pitched Jamaican/hip-hop/fuck knows voice, all "Seen blud," and "Cha, I was screwin, I'm gonna murk him". He actually said to me "Yo Joe, make my lunchizzle, forshizzle!" It was hilarious and rather sweet.

― Chap (chap), Sunday, 18 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

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