Stupid computer question for the geeks

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My computer is making funny noises - like the fan is overwhelmed. Should i be concerned? it is also becoming much slower. The last time i had it in (because it was dying) to the genius computer folks it WAS the fan that was the problem.

OK i don't care how weird any of you think I am - but I just moved the computer one inch - and everything is fine again! But only because i was grabbing the edge of the desk because my kitties were all over the keyboard/lap/computer!
it's an ilx miracle!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

take it apart, clean it.

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like the fan might have loose bearings or some gunk on it, if it is noisy and moving the case helped. And yeah - if the fan is slowing down the PC will heat up, and this can damage the CPU, so it is worth getting checked out.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

My old PC's fan makes a noise like a chainsaw when it first boots up, drives me bonkers. Loose bearing I think. I just bash it a few times and it stops. Me gude tech.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks - I will take it to the cleaners. (I'm not ready to do that myself!)
Now, how do I fix my lighter that I poured whiskey on? oh, stoves and matches!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

INSTALL LINUX

iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have been much more intimidated asking that question in the scary real ILX - the sandbox is a very nice place! For the most part.
Thank You!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Another question - does shutting down achieve anything?
Like - does re-boot have any meaning for a basic PC?
Also, how much do you actually lose when you have to re-boot?
i think of my computer as a very smart refrigerator - an object that can spell (!)
And can store stuff. And give me stuff.
is that a good analogy?

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU'RE GONNA WANNA GET THAT LINUX IN THERE POSTE-HASTE SO AS NOT TO SUSTAIN ANY MELTING DAMAGE TO THE MAIN-FRAME

iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, how much do you actually lose when you have to re-boot?

I dont think I understand this. What is being lost? Do you mean heat?

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Like - does re-boot have any meaning for a basic PC?

i only reboot if things start getting screwy or applications start failing for no apparent reason, and it usually fixes it. There are so many bugs in software and it always seems to be me that finds them.

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

you shouldn't lose anything on a re-boot as long as you do it cleanly (ie via a shutdown rather than just pulling the plug out the back) - all the open applications should save their state information and prompt you to save your work.

what you gain is a fresh start, a spring clean. why don't people shut their pcs down overnight anyway? it's not like they are using them.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I don't understand!
trayce, please bear with me, as I am an idiot.
i don't unplug or turn off my fridge. Because - that would be silly. Is the computer similar in storage? I do not know.
i am not such a simpleton that I cannot re-boot if need be - I just wonder how and where the information goes.
i AM suspicious that all of the information will be lost, at some point, if it's not written down.
That's why I keep hand written lists of things, and disdain my new laptop.
I should love the laptop. It's convenient, can be carried around, I have a router in the home, I can be cool like everyone else...
I hate it.
it triggers all of my worst neuroses.
can you hate a computer? Yes. Even if it has done nothing wrong.
it makes me nervous! And...it doesn't seem real enough to me.
(I am not writing this on the evil laptop, BTW) (But it is sitting next to me, in it's little evil laptop world, waiting to be opened.)

It doesn't make any sense! I understand that code is code -and people have to work -and so on and so forth, but it just gets really complicated. I am an idiot.

I refer to the computer I am on -the wheezing one - as the BIG computer. it's sort of the grown up. Top computer!
Have I mentioned that I am an idiot?

the wheezing has stopped, by the way. Just because I pulled it one inch towards me, and insisted that it take me to ILX.
Thank you!


aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I should wander over to the macbook thread.... although i am very nervous...

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I just bash it a few times and it stops.

That's what I do with mine! Yes, it makes a horrendous VTOL-style noise when it starts up, and keeps going until I bash it. Is it just the fan is in loose? It's take it apart and tighten everything tonight, I reckon.

Johnney B's got a system (stigoftdumpilx), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i AM suspicious that all of the information will be lost, at some point, if it's not written down

Well, you have to think of it differently - the computer DOES write down all the information, it just does it in a different way. Fortunately, it is happy to translate the info back from the 0s and 1s stored in its innards into something you can read.

It's Teatime in Buttercup Land (Maaarghk C), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

So should I bash it if it starts wheezing again?
it's very soothingly humming along right now - due to my clever use of the pulling the desk closer to me technique.
Bashing sounds fun! (I just punched it, for fun, but it hurt me more than the computer. ow!)

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Rebooting or shutting down is kind of like when you take a nap. When you start up again everything starts fresh. If your computer has been slowing down, it will often feel snappy again.

The fan usually comes on because it thinks it's getting too hot. If it's been doing intensive stuff (not just web browsing or email or whatever) it can get hot. Also it can get hot if it's sitting in the sun, or next to a radiator!

There were these two Russian brothers who for a brief while had assembled the most powerful computer in the world inside their apartment in New York. (Te movie "Pi" was (very) loosely based on the New Yorker article about them. The article is amazing if you can find it). Anyway, this computer had parts in almost every room, so that the whole apartment was like some kind of electronic nest that they lived in. One of the things about computer processor chips is that the faster they are, the hotter they get. So these brothers had actually gone out to a hardware store and bought little cheapo fans, angled strategically in different corners of their apartment!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Neil Young to thread

M.V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

that's like feeding the kitties!
But why do we
anthropomorphize - or whatever it is we do -so much more, now?
i was writing a really elgant post when the phone rang and I got email. And it got lost - because i had to do something that made something else happen. ironically, it was a Prof. calling me to alert me about the geological timeline we are discussing in his (Ecology) class.
And he was emailing me as well. great Prof.
i feel like the computer IS my brain, at times.
I can also be really terrible when forced to interact with people I don't know well, altough that is not a problem here. Except I don't know who anyone is, except the people I actually know. And Ned and Dan - everyone knows them.
I DREAM in computer - and I sometime
s wake up trying to post to an imaginary thread. I should try sleeping more, Like, now.
But once again someone else is posting!

neil young? because he has an anti-tehnology stance?
That grammy nominated song made me cringe for him.
I can never leave!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Neil Young recalls that in 1971 he invited Graham Nash to Broken Arrow, his sprawling ranch in northern California. Nash, one quarter of America's biggest-selling group, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (CSNY), had asked to hear his friend's recently completed Harvest record. Broken Arrow, spread over 56 hectares, has peacocks, cattle, llamas, corrals, barns and a mountain-top swimming pool. Harvest had been conceived in a studio on the estate.

Young rowed Nash to the middle of his lake. His roadies, meanwhile, set up a pair of concert-sized speakers, hauling one into a barn on the far shore. They placed another by a window inside the house. As the opening bars of Out On The Weekend began to filter across the water, Young busied himself with co-ordinating the volume levels from the boat, yelling, "I need more barn!" one way, then "I need more house!" another.

M.V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

mac users, please help. Is there a programme for macs that’ll read microsoft word docs, something like a free download maybe?

cavern (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

you can try http://www.redlers.com/mellel.html, which is my favorite word processor. it's got a free trial that lasts for a few weeks.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks v much.

cavern (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link


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