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The Half Hour News Hour debuts this weekend. It may or may not keep that title. The guy behind the show is Joel Surnow, the torture-happy creator of "24", and buddy to Rush Limbaugh(who'll cameo in an early ep) and Cyrus Nowrasteh who did "Path to 9/11".

from a Forbes bit back in November where the dude has some serious projection going on:
"The way I look at it, almost every comedy show or satire show I see uses the same talking points against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney," Surnow said. "The other side hasn't been skewered in a fair and balanced way."

Here's a freeper review from an early taping: The Half Hour News Hour is actually nothing like The Daily Show because The Half Hour News Hour is actually funny. Enjoy the rest of the comments.

Anybody in LA want to go to another taping?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if I can lock them inside.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ned, i will fax you $1 if you attend one of these meetings.

Feel free to sign up for their email list, too.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the few dud jokes will hopefully be edited out

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Daily Show for conservatives = talk radio for liberals, no?

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

few dud jokes

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

jokes

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

From the comments:

It took me a couple of episodes to figure out that the Colbert Report is a show about a liberal pretending to be a conservative and ultimately the goal was to make conservatives looks like idiots.

...thus proving his own point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome.

i gave up before finding that one.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Daily Show for conservatives = talk radio for liberals, no?

uh, sure, that's exactly it

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean in terms of its assured success.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Enh, some of the leftie talk shows are pretty successful.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

This show will be harmless. Not in its sentiments, maybe, but in its effect on political media/satire. TDS will still be funnier.

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

if this is stuck on fox news, who cares? only the assclowns who watch fox news will see it.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

this show will last about a month, even on FN

― TOMB07 (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly. You might see young republican types watching, but that's about it.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Just wait for all the breathless youtube posts/forwards

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

They've already got this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZUIoLfZpw

― ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Painful.

― ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Was that on public access or something? wtf

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the main problems with this concept is that conservative shows have been using actual Colbert-style tactics for years and years, which is part of where the satire shows got their ideas in the first place -- finding bumbling, comical extremists and setting them up for pseudo-serious interviews is a pretty classic conservative sensationalist move. (It's not so long ago that when O'Reilly was tackling, say, a black issue, he'd welcome some normal Republican congressperson and then be all like "to see how the mainstream black community feels about this, we turn to Rasheed-Ali 'Pookie' Akbar of the Greater Baltimore Kill Whitie Liberation Front.")

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The GBKWLF is a pretty respectble organization.

― max (maxreax), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Half_Hour_News_Hour

^ lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Coto

^ lol

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Halfhournewshour_logo.jpg

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"There are too many traitorous Freepers who watch 'the daily show' and 'colbert report' and then falsely state they attacks liberals, too."

You know, it's funny you say that because I will not watch those shows. Not because I probably wouldn't find parts of the shows funny but because I know what they think about conservatives even when they are poking fun at liberals. They hold us in disdain and I can't get passed that.
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― jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently they don't have any right wing graphic designers either?

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

is april winchell related to walter winchell?

― and what (ooo), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm more interested to see if Colbert will acknowledge them as being "legit" or not than in the actual content.

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

it would be funny if he treated them as a parody of conservative news shows

― and what (ooo), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

is april winchell related to walter winchell?

I am pretty sure he is her father.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Nevermind, I am smoking crack today. I meant Paul Winchell.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost, otm!!!!!!!!

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, one of the featured performers (Susan Yeagley) is Kevin Nealon's wife.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently they don't have any right wing graphic designers either?

uh... no. these do not exist.

http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1914

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

everybody knows that walter winchell's son is matt drudge. he must be, why else would he always wear that hat?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, one of the featured performers (Susan Yeagley) is Kevin Nealon's wife.

this is not in the least bit surprising to me

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this somehow related to "The Half Hour Comedy Hour" from the 80s? Is the "My name is Ramon" guy hosting, with his big-ass pompadour?

― Erik (EZSnappin), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope. The original title was "This Just In", but they changed it.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

this is not in the least bit surprising to me

Really? I guess I'd have assumed that Nealon was a liberal, but that's mostly based on the fact that he's vegan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

he's definitely tall. i was 6 feet away from him once. totally tall.

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

that youtube video is so unbelievably unfunny.

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

WAL-MART HAS FOUND THOUSANDS OF MISSING CHILDREN.

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

wait so Kevin Nealon is a vegan, pot-smoking (well, Weeds co-star anyway, whatever that association means), conspiracy theory enthusiast CONSERVATIVE?

― iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he's just the James Carville to her Mary Matalin

― iiiijjjj (iiiijjjj), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lanesarasohn.com/tvwriter/wilton01.html

― a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

^^ what happened when fox attempted a daily show type program in the 80s

― a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

his character on weeds is conservative, but they play him really dumb (politically)

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

For the final show, The Guys were rehearsing a piece written by Greg Daniels and Philip Walsh.

HA. this is the same greg daniels from King of the Hill and The Office, right?

Still, some of these ideas are pretty good, and i'd watch 'em:
- Rodney Dangerfield and Margaret Thatcher
- Jimmy Carter would analyze major issues while fly fishing

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

more tidbits

Quick youtube bit (*warning: clip reportedly contains Marion Barry jokes*)

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A "Daily Show" for non-liberals

Um, wouldn't that be the Daily Show?

Don't Tell Mama I'm for Obama

Hmmmmm...

― After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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I never thought of it before, but that kind of ugliness must be the result of some special effort. Is good design too egghead? I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the thinking.

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and Ed Begley Jr? W. T. F. Even ignoring that the whole bit was cruel and dimwitted, they couldn't pick someone that anyone has thought about in the last ten or 15 years?

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree on the design thing.
Well thought out imagery=arty=gay. :(
This truly is how these people think.

― Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link

that was awful

― and what (ooo), Monday, 19 February 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link

and now, to wash out the taste: Fresh Prince rerun. yay!

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched Battlestar. :D

The minute or two I saw during commercials was beneath contempt.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the way the theme song spends a verse on the cabbie, contends that the cab is rare, and then is like, "Oh, nevermind." That's in the theme song. Every show has that.

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently they don't have any right wing graphic designers either?
-- jw (jo...), February 12th, 2007. (later)
I never thought of it before, but that kind of ugliness must be the result of some special effort. Is good design too egghead? I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the thinking.

-- teasing your poultry (fluxion2...), February 19th, 2007. (later)

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The anchors getting all Basil Exposition about who was on the t-shirts and what they did.

Idi Amin: "i got you a political prisoner but i eated it."

― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the design thing is really surprising consider how good most far right-wing design is (v. the nazis, fascism in general).

― max (maxreax), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Im never going to justify this show with my eyes.

― Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody does it like the left.

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

A couple of funny jokes slipped in by accident, despite the limp delivery of the anchors and the "guests." In a totally non-partisan view, it was just stiff, over-rehearsed television at its worst, though. Do they actually have comedy writers on staff, or did they just burden the news division with extra tasks?

It's the same reason Air America has never turned a profit. Revenge humor is rarely humorous.

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Monday, 19 February 2007 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the same reason Air America has never turned a profit.

Really? their sales staff couldn't do jack and their stupid mgmt didn't replace them?

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 07:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, that's one reason. The other reason is that every time one market picks up AAR, two other markets drop it because of low ratings. "Morning Sedition" was brilliant, but aside from that the talent pool there has been a wash from day one.

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Monday, 19 February 2007 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The only clip I've heard of this show so far was a joke about candidate HRC promising a cabinet of great diversity, but filling roles exclusively with "angry lesbians." My reaction was "heh," but is there ANY basis for this, other than conservatives like to imagine that HRC is herself an angry lesbian? If she is, have I missed the great Clinton lesbo-cronyism scandal? And I hope the show didn't miss the follow up joke w/ appearance by Cheney's daughter--or is she not "angry"?

― Hunter (Hunter), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be angry at HIM.

― Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

but is there ANY basis for this,

oh jesus f'in christ, yes, of COURSE, there's obvious publicized evidence that HRC is damn near SLATHERING over the prospect of gaining power, JUST to stack the courts, agencies, and various departments with her praetorian legions of lesbo-cronies. Give me a fucking break.

Of course, this give an amusing image is a southern foghorn leghorn-style senator address a senate panel about "the growing threat of lesbo-cronies in our midst, gentlemen!" like something out of Bloom County.

also, the lesbo joke is mentioned up thread. Where's that image of radical animal rights ecoterrorists that somebody found, with the angry lobster and the unshaven hippie chick w/ a gasoline can?

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, here we are:

http://cache.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2006/12/animalrights.jpg

lobster with angry eyebrows! Suicidal bomber owl!

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

is that a k records tattoo?

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.helsingfarmcsa.com/images/K_Records_Logo.jpg

close, but i think the tattoo is more of a kitty/wolf thing

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, kingfish; filling the need to post stuff requested by kingfish in a previous post for what seems like years now

― and what (ooo), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

four year anniversary, coming up

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The tatoo looks like something out of 'Maus' actually.

― Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Monday, 19 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

lol hairy leg

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

lobsters only turn red when they're cooked, no wonder bro's pissed off.

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/

― a.b. (abanana), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i just noticed that the dude in that picture does shave his legs!

― a.b. (abanana), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Are the overnight ratings for this thing in yet?

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I like this one: A neat little bit of commentary on the jokes of the show, from an actual joke-writer.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

from that New Yorker article:

Surnow and his friend Ann Coulter—the conservative pundit, and author of the pro-McCarthy book “Treason”—talked about creating a conservative response to George Clooney’s recent film “Good Night, and Good Luck.” Surnow said, “I thought it would really provoke people to do a movie that depicted Joe McCarthy as an American hero or, maybe, someone with a good cause who maybe went too far.”

I feel like the way this idea is framed is very revealing, and kind of ties in with what that review linked above says about the show actively trying to wring humor from things rather than looking for naturally-occurring humor. Notice that he doesn't say that he, specifically, sees Joe McCarthy as a tragic figure deserving of sympathy, or would like to reform the public perception of him; he simply thinks it would "provoke people" (see also: Barack Obama race jokes, reheated Ann Coulter foot-in-mouthisms, etc). I realize that this basically just confirms what everyone else has already said, but it's still kind of amazing (to me) to see just how straightforward his thought process is.

― Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

he simply thinks it would "provoke people"

Not only that, but as a direct response to Clooney's out-there liberalism. HE'S MAD AS HELL AND HE'S NOT GOING TO USE REASON ANYMORE.

― teasing your poultry (kenan), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that the entire point to a lot of these guys is the "provoke" bit, which is why half of the rightwing blog posts about the show always included the "and it will drive those liberals NUTS." A.C.'s raison d'etre is to expend a large amount of effort into being "outrageous", just to get airtime and sell more books.

But, as said earlier on this thread and elsewhere, modern conservatism is pretty much boiled down to "we'll get those dirty hippies" and little else.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

all this horseshit is intended not to amuse conservatives but to inflame liberals and so far it seems to be working like a charm

― m coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

no one's really getting 'enraged' though are they?

― deej (deej), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Not really. It's like the reactions are more a mild irritation to a mild bemusement.

Of course, there are those who call for the hanging of all traitors, then start talking about people who disagree with Dear Leader...

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

actually Id like to hang that smug fuck from "24" interviewed in the New Yorker

― m coleman (lovebug ), Monday, 19 February 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

More on hangin' the traitors, and that stupid Lincoln quote that some guy at the Moonie Times made up

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

don young calls for the execution of the people who represent 60%+ of US opinion... not newsworthy.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

search: the last 2 of montreal albums, "in the aeroplane etc" (shut up it's pretty good)

destroy everything else

― a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

d'oh

― a.b. (abanana), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Frum says 'Watch Rome instead.' Which sounds like good advice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

clearly ur preference for nu-barnes makes that post even more of a whoopsie doodle (xpost)

― A B C (sparklecock), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link

If the Lincoln non-quote dustup is your thing, or if you just like hearing a jerk prevaricate, here's Greenwald vs Gaffney, regarding Gaffney's repetition of the non-quote. Gaffney's explanation is roughly I didn't mean we should literally hang Congress members, but those Congress members need to understand that their words have consequences, just as acts of treasonous dissent have consequences, and treasonous dissenters should be hanged. And, schoolmarmy lectures from Colmes.

― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

all this horseshit is intended not to amuse conservatives but to inflame liberals and so far it seems to be working like a charm

-- m coleman (writeco...), February 19th, 2007. (lovebug )

really? i think the liberals are chuckling as they read the conservatives talking about piss poor the whole thing is. schadenfreude, etc. i have yet to see any 'inflamed' liberals.

― hm (modestmickey), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeez, upon actually listening to the full Gaffney clip, this guy is a straight douche, and then starts nattering on about how Saddam actually had WMDs, supported terrorism against the U.S., wanted to ship these WMDs over in aerosol cans, etc. And more funnies when the guy busts out an FCC violation when actually challenged.

It's really scary that these assholes hold policy positions and get listened to at the highest levels.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.scrappleface.com/

^- this thing's s'posed to be like a rightwing Onion, right?

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

next ep is coming on March 4th

Meanwhile, more comedy, courtesy of them hiring Michelle Malkin. I'm hoping that they give an hour-long show to each TownHall poster, just for full entertainment value.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 26 February 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

ratings are in!

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

Did anybody ever see the 2nd ep of this? Apparently more are on the way...

― Mazinkaiserfisch Rocket Punch!, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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