Wall Mounted Television c/d?

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At first I thought these were glam, cool, practical, space saving. Now however I have changed my mind. It's uncomfortable to look up at your t.v, your God. It should be pretty much eye level for watching lying down.

There are other pros and cons I guess, but what are they?

Rumps (Rumps), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you considered mounting it lower down on your wall?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

How about bunk beds?

I think they are a devil to dust when they are wall-mounted.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I think having the telly mounted low down would look ridiculous.

I considered for a moment having one above the fireplace but even if it was right above the mantelpiece it would still be too high up.

And then there's the wires to consider. Some could be recessed into the wall and plastered over, but until they invent wireless Playstations, cable boxes, dvd recorders etc it would be too much hassle.

Rumps (Rumps), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

fine then

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

mount another one on the ceiling to watch lying down

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Possible wiring solution:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/ilx/tv2.jpg

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic for sport in pubs. Dud in houses (apart from very busy houses full of tall people).

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend of mine has a massive wall mounted flat screen computer monitor instead of a TV because they only watch DVDs and not real programmes, although I guess it's possible to watch digital telly through that sort of system. (I bought The Bloke a gadget for £50 from Tchibo at Christmas, which plugs into your computer USB port and allows you to receive freeview channels on your computer)

C J (C J), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

uh rumps regular tvs need to be wired too.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes but regular TVs usually have TV stands/cabinets to hide all the wires behind. With a wall mounted TV you'd end up with lots of unsightly wires hanging down from the TV and a pile of silver boxes sitting underneath, probably in a TV cabinet.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hometheatermag.com/images/newsart/092506wiremold.1.jpg

Yeah, looks rly tacky wif all those cables dangling and those boxes on the floor or perhaps in a tv cabinet.

The RealJTMod (Real JT Mod of Team Courage), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I like how the flowers end up on the floor because otherwise they would obscure the lovely teevee. And how the depth of the "media center" from the wall completely obliviates any "space-saving" benefits of the flat panel anyway.

Wall mounting is for:

1. Sports bars.

2. Dickweeds who would rather blow their wad on a >42" flatscreen than just get a fucking projector and a clean sheet.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

With wall-mounted tellies, there's only a couple of wires, isn't there? A power cable and whatever futuristic bit of wire connects it to the separate tuner box (into which you can also presumably plug yr DVD/VCR/PVR etc). That's what the massive Panasonic in my office looks like, anyway.

TS: Sports bars vs Dickweeds.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck replacing a projector bulb.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly. If you're going to have that you may as well just plonk a (cheaper) telly on the cabinet.

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Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Or stick the flowers up your arse, goofprick.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i have an amazing knack for getting flats with terrible problems with damp, so nailing stuff to the wall isn't for me in any case.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate that one commercial where the people are watching their football on the Philips Ambi-Light thingamabob and the dog steps on the remote, activating the amazing ambi-light technology, and suddenly their passive watching experience becomes MUCH MORE EXCITING, so exciting they can't even notice the little barking puppy at their feet. Fuck those people.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

wall mount flat screen = okay
wall mount flat screen w/ cords run in wall = nice
recessed wall mount flat screen w/ cords run in wall = very nice
projector w/ recessed drop down screen = very very nice
flush mount rear projection = like woah

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ambi-light = stupidest technology evah. Most theaters try to minimize the light being reflected from surrounding objects.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

flushmount/wallmount televisions, exposed brick and visible copper pipes/ducting are the new shag carpet and pea green kitchen appliances

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wouldn't flush-mounted rear projection involve the kind of scene depicted in my photo upthread?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

What about ceiling mounted television?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

does ambi-light make any sense from an uh 'optical' erm 'point of view'. how is that shit supposed to work? it even sounds quite distracting.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Flush rear mount projection would involve something like shown upthread, but hopfully should also not look like a spur of the moment decision undertaken with a chisel and a dream.

Everyone who goes to great effort to wall mount a TV should hopefully be aware that they'll be replacing it within five years.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Enrique, light around the back of a screen reduces eye-strain. Try it with your monitor.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Why has that person got toilet rolls on top of the TV cabinet?

Massive Panasonic, Michael? How the other half live!

Look, brackets:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-3945335-0330023?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Humax&Go.x=8&Go.y=14

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

We call them parentheses in our place, PJM.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend's got a rear-projection TV (not flush-mounted!) and I don't really like it very much. The viewing angles are awful. Sitting on the floor watching it is a disaster - the picture almost disappears. Even watching it straight on, the picture's nowhere near as good as my other friend's (admittedly much more expensive) plasma screen.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone who goes to great effort to wall mount a TV should hopefully be aware that they'll be replacing it within five years.

Yeah, the short lifespan of LCD and plasmas puts me off buying one, a bit. Are they getting better. I did notice that the pricier ones in John Lewis came with a 5 year manufacturers guarantee as standard.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i will take alba's advice. this thread was good for something!

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

LCD and plasma lifespans are both getting better, but that also means that the quality/size of what you'll be able to get in another five years will put whatever you get now to shame.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the size thing is interesting me more and more. the brain kind of 'normalizes' the relative size of things, apparently -- scale of image is not that big a deal in terms of the viewing experience. or so i feel.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. Like, I was saying to someone at work that it's fun watching a bigger than 32" TV and he said why don't you just sit closer to it and I said that I'd tried that and it wasn't the same.

But maybe if I got a huge TV it would stop being any more fun to watch than a normal one, after a while.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that TV-watchiing may be like life in general.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The advantage to a very large screen is, to me, the ability to watch ultra widescreen (2.35:1) format movies and not have the vertical be ridiculously tiny. And not having to squint/really focus on the screen when viewing.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It doesn't even take awhile for nrq's compensation effect to happen, at least for me. As long as I can read subtitles and see what's going on, all sizes of TV just kind of standardize themselves into the same size after about five minutes. Way way more important (for me) is audio quality. Putting a crappy 20-something-inch TV through a fantastic stereo still makes it all seem pretty luxe.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

lifespans of everything sucks nowadays. we have an LCD now because Ally's 5-year-old CRT blew out, just poof, no more emitter.

Plasma is a lot of overpriced bunkum at this point, isn't it?

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I like big screens for the same reason I like the cinema. I go there and see an advert I've watched a hundred times on TV, and suddenly I notice all these things in it I never have before. Not so much physically small details as just the overall composition and camerawork. But yeah, perhaps this is just my senses being shouted at, and if I were to watch everything on a cinema screen my brain would just go "la la la I'm not listening anymore" after a while.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

there's probably an optimum size/distance thing.. i guess if you sit closer you'll have to focus your eyes harder.. but then too big/far you'll have trouble reading?? or is it just the bigger the better?

it's definitely better to play pro evo on the projector screen than on the littler telly.

are LCD screens cheaper to run in terms of electricity too? than one of those normal CRT thingies?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, about a third of the power consumption. Plasma, meanwhile, will eat you out of house and home.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What is CRT? Normal "olden days" telly?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/08/21/sams_70in_lcd_1.jpg

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that poor woman having to hold it up for everyone to watchbecause the wall-mounting didn't work?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Dickweeds who would rather blow their wad on a >42" flatscreen

we have a 50" flat screen and I can assure you we are not dickweeds.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

There should definitely be a sports bar called Dickweeds.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Listen if it's wall-mounted then I'm afraid there's no way around the dickweed curse.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha Alba has mistaken the Samsung Nexus Six for a real woman

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ours is not wall mounted. I can't imagine the benefit of that and also it's hella heavy and I would be afraid.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently, HD-DVD (though not Blu-Ray) has a skinning capability built into its specs that, if utilised by Hollywood, would let you put your own face (or that of a dickweed) on one of the movie's characters. That's surely a reason to buy an HD-ready screen.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

put the tv in the bin and go live a life instead

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

stop posting one-liners on threads you have no true interest in and get a life yourself, dickweed.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that poor woman having to hold it up for everyone to watchbecause the wall-mounting didn't work?

Wall Mounted Woman c/d?

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

DVDs look way better than regular old cable or satellite, on an HDTV. It can depend on the quality of the DVD, but they can look real good.

I have comcast cable and the HD receiver doesn't cost any more than a regular cable box ($5/month). Newer TVs usually have HD tuners built in, so you can get the networks for free.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know Bush was bad! I thought it was a respected British Brand.
-- Euai Kapaui (tracerhan...), January 3rd, 2007. (tracerhand) (later)

It's a crappy cheapo British band. Like Alba.


i've had a bush tv for about 12 or 13 years and it's in perfect working order, even the remote control!

emsk ( emsk ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Bin-mounted Television?

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

It doesn't cost any more per month, but if your building isn't already set up correctly for HD, you cannot use an HD receiver, Chris. Also, Tracer Hand lives in London which not only would give the problems of getting cable/sattelite in the city but also has crazy draconian tv laws of which I cannot comprehend, so he probably has to set a man on fire to get the correct receiver for HD.

And you can only get the networks using a tuner for free depending on where you live, again. Not everybody will have that capability.

It's really not a big deal, being as it looks the s ame as a regular tv if you don't have the proper receiver but it's not exactly the walk in the park for all of us that you're claiming. It is actually a really trinormous bitch in a lot of locales to get HDTV.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I didn't mean that Bush would break. Just that it's crappy.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I won't argue that DVDs and games generally look better on the HDTV, but not super awesome better. The biggest thing for me with our model is the Pixel Plus processing which makes text and logos and such really super sharp even for regular old teevee broadcasts. This comes in very handy when dealing with CBS' janky-ass treatment of NFL games. Plus it zooms 4:3 signals to 16:9 without making people's faces all weird or stretching shit out too much.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

No it's even worse in the UK now you have to WATCH Man On Fire to get the correct receiver for HDTV

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

If you don't pay the license fee in the UK they make you watch TV on one of these:

http://images.ciao.com/iuk/images/products/normal/642/Medion_MD3723_Disney_Princess_TV__6490642.jpg

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i got a 32" samsung lcd as a xmas present to myself two weeks back, and i couldn't be happier. dvds do look way better, my 360 looks awesome and somehow my cable bill after upgrading to hd went DOWN while also giving me every movie channel free for some reason. my tv cost me right around $1k for an lcd that was widely reviewed as being one of the best available. the technology available and price for it have finely converged to being something that's reasonable, in my mind.

and yeah, plasma has definitely gotten cheaper. those 42" panasonic plasmas -- which everyone raves about -- can now be had for $1200. i could have gotten a larger tv easily for my money, but: i didn't want anything bigger than 32" (altho now i kinda wish i had gotten the 40" samsung 1080p which is v pretty), and there are huge variants of quality in between brands and models. definitely research the shit out of it before you buy.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this it, Jams?

http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/pr_1/14206304/100311823.html

If so, it's $400 more expensive in the UK.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it looks like it's not available in the uk. here it is on amazon us.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

If your building's cable doesn't pass HD, I guess you're out of luck. But I think in pretty much every US city, you should be able to pick up the HD locals over the air. Maybe tall buildings could interfere. I live in Arlington, VA and was able to pick up all except whatever UPN calls itself now.

In the UK don't they drive around in trucks trying to detect people illegally watching TV?

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I love it when you guys talk about our TV licensing laws and make us sound all quaintly draconian.

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The main problem we have is that I would have to get off my ass and ask our landladies to get a new DirecTV receiver dish installed on top of the house.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I love it when you guys talk about our TV licensing laws and make us sound all quaintly draconian.

but you are!

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Detector vans combat theft of the common weal!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

More Tragedie of Commons.

clevo lk (clevo lk), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

THE COMMONS. TV HAS DESTROYED ME BRAIN

clevo lk (clevo lk), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

if your building isn't already set up correctly for HD, you cannot use an HD receiver,

by this do you mean, the cable company hasn't come out and run whatever kind of new cable it might need to run? I think that comcast here (in california) will just come and do this if they get an order, and they ren't going to charge you for it either, because they want everyone to switch over eventually anyway.

akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

it's all relative to whatever weird non-homeowner situation you happen to be in. if you rent you technically don't have the authority to have people just come install or upgrade the facilities willy-nilly even if there's no fee.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think us North Americans will notice a bigger difference when switching to HD, since you Brits have had better broadcast resolution for ages... (PAL v NTSC innit!)

I just bought the Panasonic 42" plasma Jams refers to, and it was about the same price (maybe a little cheaper) than comparable LCDs. I did crazy amounts of research beforehand, and the interesting comparison point was trying to find TVs which could reproduce (as close as possible) something called "D6500K" - supposedly the optimum prescribed color temperature used by the film and broadcast industry. The Pioneer plasmas rate best across the board, but they are also far more expensive. The Panasonics peformed best in the lower price range. LCDs do OK, but the problems with black levels limit them (although this is improving). I think games, etc will look better on a LCD (or any TV in a bright room), but if you primarily want to watch movies, Plasma is the way to go.

HD definitely looks much better than the CRTs I'm used to. And I got the 'upconverting' DVD player, which does seem to be better than running a traditional DVD player to it. Upconverting players are dropping under a hundred bucks anyway. Mind you, cables (especially the ideal HDMI or Component ones) are ridiculously overpriced.

I am going to wallmount it and hide the wires. It's far more practical for me to mount it, since then I don't need a TV stand taking up room underneath the screen, hence more room for my coffee table and space in the living room itself. All the DVD/Cable boxes and thingys will site in a recessed cabinet off to the side.

So... yeah, I'm a dickweed.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Go to www.monoprice.com for cables. It's a revelation. Also, you can pretty much just use regular RCA cables in the place of "dedicated" component cables. Unless you get them from the dollar store you probably won't notice any difference.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

holy SHIT! those are some cheap cables... time to return some overpriced Monster ones to Futureshop...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Plasma doesn't have the annoying ghosting and the blacks are much blacker.

Halle Berry on an LCD tv:

http://www.celebopedia.com/berry/images/halle_berry.jpg

Halle Berry on a plasma TV:

http://www.student.city.ac.uk/~ra831/group8/images/Whoopi.jpg

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(sorry)

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

monster cables are the biggest rip off. i paid $50 for a cable that was probably as good as an $8 generic brand cable. fuck those guys.

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems like most cables are hugley marked up at retail stores, but Monster's prices are nearly criminal.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/11/25

stet (stet), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

radio shack provides excellent component cables. red = red. blue = black. green = red with sharpie marker ring drawn on it at each end.

I cannot believe people buy monster cables, for anything.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

mine came as part of a package, so i didn't have a hard-on for Monster cables per se, they just saved me on all the other stuff. luckily, i can still return the cables ;)

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

for those in the uk who are tight like me i'd def look getting a crt especially if you don 't want to sign up for hd for 10 years with sky.

I picked up a 28 inch cheap crt for peanuts, only problem was getting it down my narrow basement stairs, but i shold have realised that before.

secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

What was peanuts, exactly?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

good grief

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

stop posting one-liners on threads you have no true interest in and get a life yourself, dickweed.

fair point, i apologise. big tvs make me feel kind of irrationally annoyed

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

big tellys, I agree

especially big "HD" tellys and big "LCD" tellys and all that so on and on

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes i dont mind little televisions, where you can't see that well. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was endearing or comforting, but it seems right for televisions to know their place and not try to be cinemas of the house. they look like teenagers that should have left home, those big ones

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

we got one of those freeview things where you get extra hollyoaks and gillian mckeith and channel 5, and you can see a bit clearer, but luckily it didnt work. i dont know why they have to have the tv on the whole time, especially when they leave the room. ive never seen people turn the tv on and then immediately leave the room so much. and then look bemused to come back in one hour later and it not be on anymore

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahaha. One of my roommates leaves the TV on and the other and I take turns shutting it off as soon as he leaves the room. So far, no tempers have flared but it might be a countdown.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

actually they were watching tv last night and i came in and was making some food, and there was this show where some poor people had to come on and justify why they should get given some money by these rich people. and they had to kind of prostate themselves in front of the rich people who then passed judgement on their lives before deciding who they would give their cash to. and i wondered how long it is before there is a show where 2 members of the public go on and one wins a bunch of money and the other has to have a family pet put down

and then there was csi miami where apparently ordinary cops fly to brazil on a whim carrying out personal vendettas to catch drug dealing terrorists.

i cant imagine what this stuff is actually like if you can see it properly.

one of them has now taken to going downstairs on a saturday afternoon, turning the tv on, and immediately going to sleep on the sofa. she even says, do you mind if i put the tv on to sleep

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i managed to spray moth repellent in my eyes. this is worse than looking at Ulster Unionist profiles on myspace

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, there IS something about lying on the sofa after a late night, drifting off to a cooking show or decorating schtick or something that is equally silly but that doesn't necessarily make you doubt the future of the human race.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

My father used to walk into the living room where I was reading, see how quiet it was, turn on the television, and then walk back out of the room.

He wasn't naturally sadistic. He honestly thought(thinks) that a room without some background noise is too weird.

PPlains (PPlains), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

and they had to kind of prostate themselves in front of the rich people

I shudder to think what the verb usage might involve.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I have friends with really bad tinnitus who must have a tv or radio on to sleep.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I would never buy DLP because that girl and her goddamn baby elephant drive us nuts. IT'S THE MEERS!!!! SHUT UP

-- TOMB07 (tombo...) (webmail), January 3rd, 2007 5:29 PM. (trm)

lolol YES

aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link


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