Pardon me for asking, but in real life, what kind of person *is* a troll?

Or they just think it's funny.

unlike some raging assholes.

http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeEight.asp

I think they're just individuals who have a hard time connecting with other human beings on any genuine level, so feel the need to construct this... exaggerated personna. This, combined with a general lack of empathy for others (unable to see the effects on others of their "bit of fun").

lol pop psychology

-- Dom Passantino (juror8@gm

I've met a few people off the internet now, all of them were exactly the way I expected them to be from their manner online.

-- Norman Phay (vietgrov...), December 21st, 2006.

i've met a few and... i kind of don't expect them to be like on the net! so it sort of works out. and tbh only rjg is anything like his online persona (and spookily so).

xpost

"You a troll"
"I no a troll, you a troll"

continue for 1000 posts

sort of thing.

Hahaha, yes. I was going to say a better qn would be what sort of person *is* a troll-enabler, but then I thought about how much I don't give a fuck. You put it better.

on one of the last big n*d* sp*ck threads, "I shoved a wine cork up my left nostril and really fucked up my nose", I alluded to some troll guy who got an entire mail list shut down and the archives deleted from the list owner's server. The guy self-googled, found the thread and now sends me regular hate-mail about it! Based on this, the answer to the original question would be "a nutter".

haha i know right -- i haven't met any locals here either!

I suspect I've done a lot of this on ILX, simply by not recognising bait for what it is, and rising to it.

How is Grout a troll enabler, though? By asking questions so simple or simplistic that they cannot be taken at face value?

haha, I can just imagine "No we don't use a designer called Mrs Enrique and are you sure her hubby's first name is Temporary?"

(Oh, BTW, MarkH, since you were asking sede vacante = stevem now)

are we making a distinction between a troll-enabler and a troll-encourager? Coz I have definitely been a troll-encourager back in the day with that b3cky luc4s. I thought "if this person wants war then she's got it" and duelled with her on a thread for the best part of a day. She got more and more ludicrously offensive making all sorts of outlandish claims about how she had the IT skills to sabotage my blog and I thought "Yeah, right. Bring it on!"

Thanks for the new stevedentity, Kate. Sounds a bit LATING to me.

We're all different IRL!

From time to time, soe self reflection is a good thing.

I dont *think* I've made enemies here, and don't have a high enough profile to be that well known.

I do post with my real name, as a mark of honesty. That's not a reflection on those of you who do not, I know there are many reasons why you might not want to.

-- C J (CJ_The_Unruly@ho

Wrote deranged letters in green-ink to local newspapers, maybe?

Honestly Mr Grout, you should be on the stage!

I suppose a lot of it is to do with wanting or enjoying attention. I'm quite an outgoing fule and have never made any secret of the fact I like bantering back and forth with folk and am not shy in the attention-seeking stakes, but I don't think negative attention via arguments sounds like much fun. Other people don't feel that way, obv. Each to their own though.

I hope I don't deliberately wind people up or upset them, because that's never been my intention. I'm only here for the craic. And the free beer on Hawaiian Shirt Fridays.

I don't think Grout is a troll at all, though he may be perceived as one. He's more like a big, enthuasistic puppy that comes bounding in, full of energy, and just genuinely wants to have a good time, and everyone else to have a good time. And other people view that as destructive, when there's no malice there, just boisterous high spirits.

Some people are just wind-up artists, it's that sense of trying to get a rise out of others - either for pure puerile enjoyment, or to create "dialogue" or "challenge people's notions" etc. (the former Calum the latter Momus)

Some people are genuinely malicious - those are the ones that I find hardest to understand. Their intention is clearly to hurt, or "score points" off imagined or perceived enemies. They'd be writing letters to the council or the local paper if they didn't have the internet.

And then there are people like your N*de Sp*cks and your Marissas who are actually genuinely mentally ill, and I don't think they ever realise or understand what it is that is going on to get them into the messes they find themselves in, until it's too late. Then they perceive themselves as being attacked, and freak out.

He is a former Maxis employee, who was fired after secretly adding code into the game SimCopter, which would cause sprites of males in swimming trunks kissing each other to appear on certain dates. This was not discovered until after the game had been released.

still funny

^^best part of this thread

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Alexis Petridish is the chief music writer, as well as a columnist on matters of male fashion, for UK newspaper The Guardian. He is also the "under 50s" music critic for GQ, and was final editor of now defunct music magazine Select. In his writing he has praised a wide variety of musical acts, such as Kasabian, Girls Aloud, and Ricky Shakes, writing: "I have seen the future of ant simulation video games, and his name is Ricky Shakes". Petridis is referenced by Nas in his song "Ether", with the line "Remember Jay when I got you in Select/ Back then not even Petridis give you respect/ So we went to Wagamama's instead/ Awesome chow mein".

Petridis is a regular contributor to the internet forum I Love Music, under the sobriquet "Louis Jagger".

(Probably not.)

Besides, how do they know that Nous voulons le fap de poule! wasn't a student slogan anyway...

YSI

link plz

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diplomats

You know, I just spent about 15 minutes fighting off the enormous temptation to delete every post on this thread and replace it with the words OBIE TRICE.

anyway thread was pretty fun!

Merry Christmas ILE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crosby

-- masonic boom (kateotheremai...), December 21st, 2006.

This gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "takes one to know one." Aren't you a junkie in therapy on antidepressants or something?

Speaking of "not understanding," let me quote for you from my pal Jon "Wizard Is Hungry" Guy's old website where he quoted thusly, and I quote:

Advancement is a cultural condition in which an Advanced individual—i.e., a true genius—creates a piece of art that 99 percent of the population perceives to be bad. However, this is not because the work itself is flawed; this is because most consumers are not Advanced.Now, don’t assume this means that everything terrible is awesome, or vice versa; that contrarianism has no place in Advancement theory. The key to Advancement is that Advanced artists a) do not do what is expected of them but also b) do not do the opposite of what is expected of them. If an artist does the direct opposite of what is anticipated, he is classified as “overt” (more on this later). The bottom line is this: When a genius does something that appears idiotic, it does not necessarily mean he suddenly sucks. What it might mean is that he’s doing something you cannot understand, because he has Advanced beyond you.