John Currin's New Painting (NSFW)

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lets talk about it (Mod warning - the link is NSFW)

― FUCKTHISSHIT (JACKLOVE), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.villagevoice.com/issues/0650/saltz.jpg
jsut click the link

― FUCKTHISSHIT (JACKLOVE), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Forbidden"

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

duh, that's the painting.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

nice.

http://www.villagevoice.com/art/0650,saltz,75243,13.html

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks stan

― FUCKTHISSHIT (JACKLOVE), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

kind of pornographic. i guess that's the point!

clever huh.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It is strangely distracting because I find her face so unattractive.

Is there a lot of this kind of full on hardcore calling itself art, then? I'm very out of the loop.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

(I mean Mapplethorpe etc notwithstanding, but he was at least creative about it).

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha this is a joke, right?

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What... what I said, or Ant's post?

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

the painting

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

all of the people in the article are idiots.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link

here's the part where i get called a xtian fundie or something because *actually* yer man currin is *terribly* progressive.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not playing snooker, are they?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

[mandatory 'sinking the pink' gag]

― Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Imagine having to pose like that for days on end...

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

have we just lost some posts?

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

John Currin - still a contemptible choad who hates his subjects.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

He may well be a contemptible choad who hates his subjects, but some of his stuff's amazing. Heartless might be my one of my fave things ever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/collective/dnaimages/gallery/johncurrin/5.jpg

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Currin's work had come on strong, strange, and comedic, like a roomful of clowns.

― stevie (stevie2), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

this guy is a hack.

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Johnny B -

I'm not saying that he can't handle a brush. He obviously knows what he's doing in that respect. It's just that his slickness isn't in the service of anything interesting that I've ever seen. Every painting of his I've looked at is nothing but an affirmation of how smart and insightful he is compared to these stupid shallow bumpkins and bourgoisie (and now whores.)

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The re-birth of mannerism, eh?

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

not the best investment, i'd say

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd kind of like to see the exhibition, I mean that's a pretty small image of one painting - not much to base judgment on.

Yeah, porn as art=been done, but so what. What he does with it is more important.

Feel free to make liberal use of the potential for double entendre in this post.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

That painting is really gross, no matter how skillful. This may be bcz lady subject looks almost exactly like my mom, down to hair & all, and I know my dad has her dress in a bunch of stupid cheesy '80s pr0n shit. Yuck aplenty.

― Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Your mom's not that bad

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

NSFW courbet

http://www.dmoma.org/lobby/exhibitions/blockheads/images/origin_of_the_world.jpeg

― cozeny (cozeny), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

can we make the 21st century a little less obsessed about being edgy than the 20th? k thx bye

― Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

all that's missing now is pussy to be perfectly honest...

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/currin_full.jpg

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, now THAT is just bizarre. Is it a PS job or are they glued on or what?

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone else think it was meant to be the queen at first?

― sgh (sgh), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know much contextually about Currin, and haven't even read the article in question here, but I'd say the main thing that's interesting about this painting is the kinda fascinating (and convincing) connection it draws between like, yeah, mannerist-type old-painting aesthetics and the rigorous posing + wardrobing of porn. (The lace glove in particular seems like it's trying hard to work that angle, plus check out the ornate gilt-looking headboard or wallpaper or whatever's in the back there.) There's something funny about the way it reads, for half a second, like an old nude, up until the eye fishes scanning everything and puts it together.

(Haha I think Coppola may have less pointedly done something similar in reverse with one shot in Marie Antoinette.)

― the pony-poop paradox (the pony-poop paradox), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i think some of his paintings are cool. they remind me of the 50's. and 50's advertising illustrations. he's a good illustrator! every generation gets the norman rockwell it deserves.

http://www.jimh.net/Currin/StamfordAfterBrunch.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

he's cartoony too.

http://www.thecityreview.com/f04ccon1l.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i like his stuff better than lisa yuskavage's stuff anyway.

http://artkrush.com/mailer/issue32/popups/img/i4.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost)

Uh, just LOOK at those women's legs and ass! They're thalidomide babies!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

he's definitely big on weird unnatural shapes!

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

like this one. i always thought this one was pretty funny.

http://www.walkerart.org/walker_images/e_images/04/wac_3589e.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

whoops, it went away.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

props for naked bea arthur.

http://worldofwonder.net/image1/beanude.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

This may be bcz lady subject looks almost exactly like my mom, down to hair & all, and I know my dad has her dress in a bunch of stupid cheesy '80s pr0n shit.

PIX of your mom pleeze

― akm (akmonday), Thursday, 21 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

courbet's pic was better.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I think what I like about him the least is "Hey, looky here I can paint any old way I choose!"

Scott, I'm sure there's more going on in that painting than Norman Rockwell feel-goodness. He tends to be pretty obsessed with women in the aging process, and also with vanity. I think there's something pretty misogynistic about the way he portrays those things too - he will occasionally focus his crosshairs on a male subject (the ridiculous older man with the young girlfriend) but only like 10% of the time.

There's also something very New York (or LA, I guess) about focusing so much on that subject - a city where people try especially hard not to get old. Somehow I don't think that would resonate as strongly in the midwest.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

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