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Fables, Criminal, Y, She-Hulk

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

SEP062969 VAULT OF MICHAEL ALLRED #3 (OF 4) $6.99

o rly?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

d'oh! for some reason I thought list was the magic word
THIS IS A LIST: 12/20/06

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Did Criminal get any good after the first dull-ass issue?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. Yeah, the second issue was packed with bungled heist action.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

52 WEEK #33
AQUAMAN SWORD OF ATLANTIS #47
CATWOMAN #62
DEADMAN #5
FABLES #56
HELLBLAZER #227
MAN CALLED KEV #5
OMEGA MEN #3
RED MENACE #2
Y THE LAST MAN #52
FANTASTIC FOUR #541
IRON MAN #14
PUNISHER #42
SHE-HULK 2 #14
ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #103
UNION JACK #4
ZOMBIE #4

OH NOES, THE EXTENT OF MY SADNESS REVEALED TO WHOLE BOARED INSTEAD OF JUST US

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

52:33
Checkmate
Criminal
maybe Auction Philologists tpb based on the recs in the old farts who like to read thread.

Also, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN RIVERDALE???!!

http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/bettyveronica.jpg

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

We have decided against a recognizable house-style in favor of crap artists we can afford.

― Archie Inc.-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Decarlo is spinning in his grave.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

NOOOOOO!!!

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

1980'S MARVEL FILL-IN BOILERPLATE LIVES

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I "love" how so much of the (deserved) praise for DarCoo's The Spirit centers on the "new" Ebony, who appears in, like, two panels. And everybody softpedals what a baroquely offensive caricature Ebony originally was. Sez CBR: the original version "didn't paint the African-American character in the best of possible lights". Why can't we all just agree that Eisner & co. were STONE COLD heinous when it came to that, especially considering that it was the goddamn forties by then, and that sort of bullshit hadn't been "cool" since the 20s. And especially considering how otherwise progressive and sophisticated Eisner's strips were.
CBR further aggrandizes Cooke's mere act of non-racism, "Coke [SIC} deserves an award just for those pages alone, though."

TAKE A CHILL PILL.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

That archie thing is ultraawesome.

I liked the new Spirit; the only issue with Ebony is that Cooke made him say "I ain't shook" in an entirely inappropriate circumstance. That's just embarrassing.

Also, LOL at historical revisionist thinking the forties were somehow more sensitive to racial caricature in mainstream media than the twenties; Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs, anyone?

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't mean that the 40s were awesome racism-wise, I just thought that THAT PARTICULAR caricature had its heyday in the 20s, and wuz probably old hat by the 40s, but I guess not.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not busting your balls dude; I agree with your response to the knee-jerk "Gosh, he didn't make Ebony's lips look like an inner tube; how sensitive!" comix community response. I don't think you can argue that Eisner's take on Ebony specifically and black characters in general is certainly unsophisticated and undeniably racist by today's standards. In Eisner's defense, Ebony IS one of the brightest and most likable characters in the strip; there was a good one page Eisner did for the Kitchen Sink "Adult" Spirit where Ebony directly responds to accusations (from a Black Panther reporter, no less!)of Uncle Tomming where Eisner uses Eb as raissoneur to does an interesting dance of "mea culpa, but I am still a crimefighting wunderkinder don'tcha know".
I gotta scan that in and post it one of these days; it's an odd piece of work.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I also don't think you can argue that Eisner has exhibited tendencies in his work that suggest that HE ever bought into racist tropes; his later work in particular seems pretty color blind.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

That's exactly why Eb is so problematic. It's sort of like H.L. Mencken's anti-semitism: Can you forgive, or at least excuse, distasteful things about people because so much else of what they've done is wonderful, or should the awesomeness of other parts of their work make their transgressions even more unexcusable?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's absolutely necessary with a lot of art to separate artist and art (as well as intention/execution and modern mores/old timey attitudes) and comix is no exception.

For whatever reason, I can't really get up in arms about Ebony. The character doesn't display any of the stock racist tropes in any of the stories I've read; he's just oddly misshapen in a way that once was semi-standard and is now so odd to modern eyes that most folks have difficulty reconciling what the hell the artist was even getting at. It is, to quote Sara Silverman, like when your granpa's complaining about them Mexicans. He's racist but his opinions hold no real sway in a public forum and he'll die soon, so it's okay.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I read somewhere (maybe a TCJ article) that Eisner slowly turned Ebony (def. a product of the times, unfortunately) into something less caricaturey (sic). (Please note that the DC Spirit will be my first true exposure.)

[xpost]

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, aside from the way he's drawn and some of his dialogue, Ebony's actually a more fully-realized character than, say, Doolan's Daughter (and even Doolan is pretty one-note, heck, the Spirit himself is pretty one-note).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Doolan's mustache more than makes up for it, tho.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

he's just oddly misshapen in a way that once was semi-standard and is now so odd to modern eyes that most folks have difficulty reconciling what the hell the artist was even getting at.

I remember reading some Spirit stories when I was a kid - I think in that Smithsonian Compendium thing. Ebony only appeared in a couple of panels in one of the stories, and he was so grotesquely drawn that I didn't even realize he was supposed to be black. I just thought he was some kind of mutant or circus freak or something.

― The Yellow Kid (TheYellowKid), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

WTF @ Riverdale front. I am a master at DeCarlo Archie style. I wrote the editor a goddamn letter w/immaculate sample drawings & everything. Why they not hire me? A MYSTERY. Fuck them and their CCA approval. They no longer get Comics Cheirshed by Abbott seal of my heart.

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Here's meeeeee and Jughead done in fucking MS Paint. Paint! And: it looks glorious. Fucking fuck fuck.

http://myspace-610.vo.llnwd.net/00604/01/61/604131610_l.gif

Well, glorious except for the hands. But for a 15-minute drawing....fuck!

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

omg abbott you realize you're going to have to archie-fy all of us now

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

dude yeah, I did that for all my friends at xmas last year. Post the pics if you want & I'll try my damndest.

I am so fucking pissed. I just ranted at my boyfriend for 10 minutes. It would be like if they totally abandoned 'the Marvel way.' My anger cannot be sufficiently conveyed.

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/114/283668667_2b153f9c98.jpg

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

WATE I HAVE VERONICA SELF ALREADY:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/VeronicaSmallcopy.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Pls note blue comix-style hair highlight.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Is that George Strombolopous?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know who that is, but no.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right, George only wears black t-shirts.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/igotabeefpastry/slutskyarchie.jpg

A quick deal.

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I wish ILC was back (sigh), so I could start a ZOMG NEW FF / ZOMG NO MORE JMS thread, but I'll wait. More Arch(ie)ness, plz.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm taking pictures to post as soon as i get home tonight.
I wanna be archified.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

on second thought maybe i shouldn't have picked a picture where i'm well-nigh unrecognizable... but thanks abbott u rock!!

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Daverere, there's always Warlock!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

TRU DAT!

Lemme get out of work, tho.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://graphics.GlitterMaker.com/1/731/115619905213383.gif
http://www.warlockmag.com/ - Warlock Mag

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Back on Eisner/Ebony for a minute, I just read the Archive which has the be-bop story in it. Even the editorial says "Eisner was embarrassed in later years by the racism". Is it just me, or does that imply he thought it was acceptable at the time? Let's not forget, after all, that at one point he replaced him by an Eskimo boy who made Pieface look well-rounded in comparison.

PS ARCHIE ABBOTT = HOTTTTTTT

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, when did Iron Spidey join Birds of Prey?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

where'd ev'ryb'dy g'o?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 24 December 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

only 2 more sleeps til i find out whether i got absolute new frontier for xmas~

― A B C (sparklecock), Sunday, 24 December 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

good luck!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Sunday, 24 December 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

Recent pic of me

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― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 24 December 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

she-hulk and iron man were both let downs. i picked up new avengers and was pleasantly surprised; i stopped reading it maybe a year ago or so. when did maleev start doing the art?

i finally picked up Welcome to Tranquility, and I am soooo on board with that, as well as Criminal. I missed Criminal #1 though; anyone know when it's scheduled to be reprinted?

― ian (orion), Sunday, 24 December 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

also is the morrison batmang arc over or on hiatus or vhat? it seems like he and dini both had extraordinarily short runs on their respective bat titles.

― ian (orion), Sunday, 24 December 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

According to Comic Shop News Batmorrison returns in February. And Supermorrison returns on Thursday!

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 25 December 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

SUpermorrison has been MIA for how many moons now?

― ian (orion), Monday, 25 December 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Seems like the Luthor issue came out in August or September.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 25 December 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

batman/mr. freeze animated movie on BOOMERANG right now!!1

― ian (orion), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

That Luthor issue was probably the best Superman comic I've read that was created in my lifetime.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 25 December 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

For real. I had a similar idea for a Superscript not long before it came out, but Grant left my thoughts for how to do such a thing way back in the dust.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

And come to think of it, my idea was probably inspired by All Star Superman #1.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Bro loaned me 30 Days of Night which looks kind of good. Also he has been wearing his Comic Defense League Tshirt for two days and Milk & Cheese T is next! Love my fam.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 25 December 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

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