the sandbox guide to tipping demographics

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inspired by the revelation that churchies are lousy tippers on the work nightmares thread.

what i found when i used to deliver furniture is that the richer the person was the less the odds I'd see a tip. So - to list a few predictable tipping cross-sections:

• The wealthy: lousy
• Lawyers: the worst
• Housewives: never
• The elderly: tippers, but never very much
• Blue collar males: good (a pick-up truck, for me, was always an indicator of an impending quality tip)
• Russians: always good for some reason

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

what i found when i used to deliver furniture is that the richer the person was the less the odds I'd see a tip.

How do you think they got rich in the first place, huh, sonny?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

uh oh are you supposed to tip furniture deliverypeople?:(

teeny (teeny), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

haha, yeah that's what I was thinking.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Se, you are the reason the world sucks.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You're not supposed to, there's no law saying you should and I've not known many who expect it (ie it's not a job like waiter where they don't have to pay you and can force you to just work off tips), it's just nice to do so.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 18 December 2006 17:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

tip all delivery people generally

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ups guy?

teeny (teeny), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

midwives?

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

they make pretty good bank xpost, don't know about midwives.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You do not have to tip all delivery people. I generally do myself, but wouldn't think badly on anyone who didn't tip furniture/electronics/UPS/mail/movers etc. Some of those people I wouldn't think to tip and do not ever tip.

I do actually have a big problem with people just assuming that they're getting a tip because they do some form of service? You wouldn't think to tip the cashier at the store where you bought the furniture. Like I said, I generally do tip people who deliver large items or movers and stuff, especially if they are friendly and very helpful, but seriously when I've worked in stores that offered delivery service, those people made significantly, significantly more $$$$$$$$$$$$ than the other people who worked in the store. So, in closing, teeny please do not feel bad.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 18 December 2006 17:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Midwives aren't allowed to accept tips (money), but the nature of what they do, they get more chocs/flowers than they know what to do with...

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tipping furniture guy - not manditory. But the store I worked at had free delivery and set-up so people were a little more obligated than with your average delivery guy. Esp since setting up their little brat's bunkbed ment moving all their pre-existing furniture and junk around followed by an hour or so of work. also: it was obvious we were not paid well.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i was joking about midwives of course. would love to see it tho.

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If they help you get stuff up your stairs I think you should tip them.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You must be russian!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tipping movers = mandatory

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i wasn't thinking of fedex etc, more people who deliver things from stores or restaurants. movers should always be tipped, those poor bastards.

anyway i enjoy tipping - you give a guy a couple bucks then you both feel good abt the situation.

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

definitely tip movers/furniture guys, even if it's just a few dollars.

without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm assuming we all tip our bartenders and wait staff, yes?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In the same way that you're assuming that everyone on this thread is American, yes.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

bartenders = a dollar on every drink unless the drink is expensive and then i tip a little extra

restaurants = 20%

counter service = usually a dollar if the counter person has to do any actual work

without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

that sounds abt right

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tipping $1 per drink gets really old, esp. when you get slow service and no buy backs.... :/

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm delighted this thread has taken off, but I think we may've missed the point here :/

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

restaurants = 20%

GOOD service = 20%

I always try to break 15% percent and round up unless the service is awful.

If the bill is tiny, you gotta do 20% because who wants a sub $2 tip?

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

same as jbr. don't really use movers so. . .

sonic and coffeeshops always give me anxiety though. never sure if I should and how much.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In the same way that you're assuming that everyone on this thread is American, yes.

goodbye!

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

flipside: perverse enjoyment gleaned when bitterly tip-withholding.

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I tipped 20% for a meal on Saturday but that was a fairly inexpensive meal and the waitress was really good (taking a bottle away and heating it for the baby, showing the boys through to the kids play area, taking Anne's meal back to warm it because she was changing the baby's nappy).

Normally I tip 10-15% for a meal.

Moving house guys usually = my mates + a hired van and therefore tip = crate or two of beer once we're all done.

I don't tip delivery people apart from the paper boy.

Tipping barstaff is a rarity apart from in my Dad's local where there is good value in buying the barmaids a couple of drinks.

There's a definite UK/US cultural divide on tipping but I think it's becoming more common in the UK. We now have people sitting on toilets in some city pubs giving out hand towels and cheap aftershave and staring meaningfully at their saucers of loose change.

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

*in* toilets, not on them :-/

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

PLEASE KEEP JAYMC AWAY FROM THIS THREAD.

otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't tip delivery people apart from the paper boy.

I just remembered I tip food delivery people too.

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I tipped 20% for a meal on Saturday but that was a fairly inexpensive meal and the waitress was really good (taking a bottle away and heating it for the baby, showing the boys through to the kids play area, taking Anne's meal back to warm it because she was changing the baby's nappy).

God, I should only tip 10%

We now have people sitting on toilets in some city pubs giving out hand towels and cheap aftershave and staring meaningfully at their saucers of loose change.

Least favorite part of seeing shows at "upscale" venues here... fucking cocoa butter smell in the lav.

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

http://tipthepizzaguy.com/

without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Lawyers: the worst

Labor and employment lawyers are awesome tippers!
Social justice types = good tippers
Current/former servers = good tippers unless they receive bad service in which case they are ruthless.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I never properly tip cab drivers because the fair is never an even dollar amount so I end up having to round up or down plus there's pressure to figure it out quickly, especially if the cab is blocking traffic, and then I have to subtract the fare plus calculated tip from the denomination I'm giving the driver and tell him how much change to give me back and it seems like no matter how much change I ask for, the driver responds by disdainfully repeating my quoted figure, like "You want twelve back? Whatever lady, I got kids to feed. Now beat it, I'm blocking traffic."

Also, in flagrant violation of laws posted right there in the back of the cab, every cab driver in Chicago constantly talks on a cell phone while driving. But that's clearly another thread.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Least favorite part of seeing shows at "upscale" venues here... fucking cocoa butter smell in the lav.,

place on christie and grand totally not fancy but has a bathroom attendant wtf

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i always overtip cab drivers. those guys make NO money.

without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I tipped the guys who delivered our couch because they had to take our front door off the hinges to get it into the apartment and I felt really bad about it. I also tipped the laundry service delivery guy (they are running a FREE laundry promotion in our neighborhood - I normally don't use the service) because it was FREE and so I loaded those fuckers up with every dirty machine washable thing in our entire house.

But I am (almost) a labor and employment lawyer, a social justice type, AND a former server/low wage worker so I'm pretty much a giant bleeding heart when it comes to tipping. Except I won't counter tip if all the person did was ring up my order and hand me change. I think counter tipping is becoming a way for employers to weasel out of paying their employees more money (but you make tips!!!) and I disapprove of this trend toward the private ordering of wages.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In my experience, coaches of any sports team at any level higher than high school are incredibly bad tippers - especially when they've brought their WHOLE GODDAMN TEAM. High school and lower age group coaches however are precisely the opposite, again, in my experience.

has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i never tip. also, what are these 'stairs' you speak of?

nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't tip furniture movers because I have never not been the one to move my own furniture, with one exception: my piano. I tipped the shit out of those guys. Also tipped: piano tuner.

has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Rednecks = bad tippers

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In the same way that you're assuming that everyone on this thread is American, yes.
-- ailsa_xx (ailsa.watso...), December 18th, 2006.

Pardon me, but WHAT THE CHRISTING FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT? I'm Canadian, as is Thermo Thinwall.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dude - english be not tippin'

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I gathered that, but sheesh.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this thread has the potential to become extremely bad! It is a good thing that most people I know working as waiters and bartenders are not on ILX!

TOM. BOT. (trm), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oh relax.
xpost

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Why don't the British just fuck off?

jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ok, here's another:

My roommate just asked me to call her a cab, I asked where she was going, etc. She said that she expected the cab to cost $14, I told her I'd drive her for $8.

Do I get tipped?

Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

You should get kicked for charging your roommate.

Last night ate out and the bill was 30 and change. . I tipped 6.50 and then felt bad b/c that seemed kind of chintzy right here at the holidays. I should've just gave her ten. :(

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

fezaffe, can we see the haircut in question first pls

haitch (not haitch) (haitch), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

We used to pay 15% tax in ontario (14 now) - which made figuring out tips super easy!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thanks. i needed one more reason to consider you an idiot.

...on the other hand i'm not on probation

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sam, you tipped over 20% -- holidays or not, I do not want to live in a world where that's something to feel bad about!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My newspaper delivery guy gave me a self addressed envelope with a happy holidays card with the NYT. What's appropriate?

Shit, is there a tip db

jw (ex machina), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

pizza-delivery drivers:
How much do they get an hour from Dominos/Pizza Hut/etc.?
How many deliveries does the average pizza dude make in a busy hour?
Do they pay for their own gas?

milo (milo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A:
1) 30-35% (less if you're poor or black)
2) One, if it's you ordering apparently
3) No - you do.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

...

milo (milo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

my roommates and i started ordering the ny times recently (november-june, no sunday paper, student rate = $45 total). since we started getting it in november, we got a letter from the delivery person the first week about a christmas bonus, suggesting a tip of $1 a week, or $52. i don't know what a year's subscription at full price is, but given that it was the first week we'd gotten the paper, and our entire subscription cost less than $52, we decided not follow this suggestion.

unfortunately, then finals hit and we all moved out and completely forgot about the paper tip! aaah! we will have to do it when we get back in january. what's appropriate?

Maria e (Maria), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Buh! Five bucks and a used copy of Miss Manners' book, tops.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'm really bad about tipping for haircuts but am good about everything else -- i have easy to cut hair and am totally undemanding, so never sure rilly about how much to tip (+ prices vary totally with no regard to quality from place to place) and i always get the most confused at astor b/c you pay upfront and not to the particular barber, so i have no idea where to give the tip -- if i give it first before going upfront, or give it upfront, or what. i always feel confused.

i get frustrated by a lot of waitstaff tho b/c i feel like i'm low-key and so they're not super attentive or whatever -- like just notice when i've got my arm sort of gently waving and take my order, and then notice it again when i want my check and otherwise whatever dude. even tho i always tip well, i feel like lots of places don't have this very basic concept down and so you get waitstaff totally preoccupied with this or that more demanding table or issue instead of first just trying to keep orders and bills straight.

sterl clover (s_clover), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

as this is bumped anyway, tipping question from a former big american tipper who is a bit clueless now that i live in the US.

valet parking came with my hotel room package (in chicago)...how much do i tip the dude that brings me my car tomorrow morning? and do i give it to him or the front desk (logic is that someone else parked it and they should share, or something?

colette (colette), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A buck or two to the person who hands you the keys would be acceptable. And yes, it's all shared, so you're not just tipping him, but tipping everyone who participated in the parking and unparking of your car.

PPlains (PPlains), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Should I leave a cash tip for the cat sitters? I already paid the service but I want them to take extra good of my cats!!!

If it was me, I would. I always tip more when I expect to use a service again, and would like people to think kindly of me. I realise this is a capitalist crime: using my money to get superior service, but I don't care. I tip my hairdresser well because she cuts only my hair when she is dealing with me, she doesn't flit off to talk to other clients, she doesn't stand around chatting to other hairdressers, and she gets a great cut done quickly. That earns you a big tip in my book.

One of the nice things about working in a charity shop was that people kind of gave you tips, by putting money in the collection tin on the counter. So even though the charity got the money, we all got to feel like it was our good service that was getting that little bit extra for them.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 22 December 2006 08:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Newspaper delivery people who hand out envelopes in anticipation of a holiday tip really, really get on my nerves. Am I the only one? I am a good tipper for other services.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 22 December 2006 13:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i love that biz markie's tip for waiters is "don't drink and drive"

obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Okay, we just had a new refrigerator delivered and thanks to ILE's consciousness-raising, I tipped the two guys $10 each.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

at least two bucks for the valet but no more than three unless they did something extra (kept your expensive car close by, etc)

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

as this is bumped anyway, tipping question from a former big american tipper who is a bit clueless now that i live in the US.

Did I miss something? Have you moved back? Or do you mean now that you live in the UK?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The girl who used to cut my hair charges $20 for a straight haircut. I always tip her 7-10 dollars depending on how pleased I am with her work. The last time I went to her I gave her $40, expecting to break the other 20 for change, so I could tip her. She took the $40 and said "thanks."

marcos (mucho), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Haha SCAM.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I always specify when I give someone an extra bill like that that I want change back from it.

I did recently get completely gamed by a pizza deliveryman who seemed to refuse to understand that I wanted change from him (he did a very amusing "I no longer understand English" thing at which I point I just shrugged and let him keep it haha.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this is going to sound ridiculous but I used to go to old school Italian barbers or a friend of friend who gave good styled $25 cuts. i've stopped playing russian roulette and now go to this quasi-salon which is not very pretentious at all, but I have to pay the cashier woman rather than the hair cutter person directly. considering that the tip is now significantly more, how do I know that the cashier isn't pocketing it or that the salon isn't keeping it? it seems gauche to slip it to the hair cutter directly, but i want her to know when she does a great job.

obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I had a dream last night that I was in some bar/restaurant in the U.S. talking to Tony Montana (!?) about guns (!?) and then when I went to pay (with a card) I couldn't work out where to add in the tip (this happens in real life too) I asked the girl at the bar and then TM got really pissed off with me.

sgh (sgh), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Mike, you can fold the tip bill into quarters and slip it to your stylist directly, hand to hand so it's kind of covered? This is maybe unnecessarily secretive but I too find the public exchange of cash kind of...oogy, so I compromise. Usually just walk up quietly, say "thanks again" or something like that, and sliiiiiide it over.

If, tho, I'm tipping a beautician who has her hands busy with other customer (pedicure, etc) if I'm acquainted w/ someone from previous visits I put bill into apron pocket directly.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Mike, you can fold the tip bill into quarters and slip it to your stylist directly, hand to hand so it's kind of covered

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST DO NOT DO THIS. It pissed me off every time someone did it - this is not The Sands circa 1962, you are not Dean Martin. Doubly bad when it's a lousy tip.

milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What do you think one should do instead? Apart from stand in the middle of the salon and say, loudly, "HEY MISTY, I GOT YER TEN BUCKS OVER HERE WHEN YOU'RE DONE."

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think a woman can do this to/for another woman but might understand why a man might feel emasculated either doing it or being the recipient.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this is not The Sands circa 1962

no, it's a salon, present-day where that's the usual way you tip someone

or you can put the tip in the little envelope and give it to the person behind the desk. i don't see why you wouldn't trust them - how many times are they going to get away with 'no, s/he didn't leave a tip' when the stylist person comes asking?

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wow. i thought i was a decent tipper but it turns out that except at restaurants, i am not. (i've quit going to a salon to get my hair cut anyway though. my roommate will do it over the bathroom sink for free,or a drink, and it comes out better than last time i got it done professionally. grrr.)

Maria e (Maria), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Leave tip at station when you get up to go back to the front. Discreet and safe (from sticky fingers). If I didn't have change beforehand I guess I'd walk it back to the station.

But the only time I got cuts in a gen-u-ine salon I was dating a stylist and the tip was dinner.

milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

In London your stylist/whatever always walks up with you to the till. Out of that tip they tend to give £1-2 to the 'junior' who washes your hair beforehand and sweeps up.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

this doesn't happen in the US, does it? i always tip them separately

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I dunno - that would be like also tipping the dish-busser after a restaurant meal, when it's the waitron's call on slipping the busser $10 or whatevs at the end of a shift. According to my sis, the waitron.

Tonight went to happy hour with friend and we tipped as if full price on happy hour drinks and snacks. Server got $8 on $28 check.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i think i take my cue in this regard from my friend who got her hair cut by frederick fekkai, so maybe it doesn't apply to my $30 neighborhood place

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 05:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yes, it's true. black people are the worst tippers.

Clearly you don't have much experience waiting on the French, Dutch, German or Brits. Oh and Canadians! They are the ones that'll sneak up on you: no strong accent--except the French-Canadians--and then at the end of the meal--BLAM! You get a credit card with the dreaded maple leaf.

I will always give each group of people consistent service because while I might suspect that a German or Black person might tip me poorly, I would only be guaranteeing that by favoring others who fit the good-tipping demographic.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

At the salon where I get my hair cut, I pay with a credit card, and the person at the desk up front asks me, "Would you like to leave a tip?" And I say, "Yes." And he says, "How much?"

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Haha, once when I worked in a small hotel, a couple who had been staying all week had noticed that I had waited, cleaned their rooms, served behind the bar, covered reception etc. The wife collared me in the TOILETS (!) to slip me a £20 tip which I was not to share with anyone on the grounds that I seemed to be single-handedly running the place.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What do you guys think the undertipped ratio is as regards in-house service vs delivery in the food service industry? I'm not sure why, but my gut tells me in-house are usually more often undertipped than delivery people.

Not true at all! I delivered pizza for one of the big US chains when I was in college, and found that rather than a percentage, people tend to tip a specific dollar amount. Say the order was $20, you'd most likely get $2 from it. A lot of people don't tip at all, specifically Born-Again Christians (though I now have a good collection of Chick tracts), poor whites, poor blacks, realtors, and office managers (when delivering to offices). It's different being alone with someone on their turf—they can be as rude as they'd like and there's no societal pressure on them to make themselves look good. You guys in restaurants had it easy. Five dollar tips were considered good. We would also have to pay for our own gas and car maintenance. For each delivery we took, we got $.50 for gas, which in many cases wouldn't cover the distance there and back. To make up for this , we'd try to take more than one delivery at a time, if they're both going in the same direction and ordered at the same time. Oh, and if the cook fucks up, I have to make a second delivery FOR FREE (though if you're charming, you can turn a second-trip into a $5 tip). On a typical Saturday night, I'd make ~$75 for about 30 deliveries, putting about 105 miles on my car (but it's stop-and-go driving, so I was getting the low end of my Camry's fuel economy) so minus $12 for gas. And people ordered more and tipped less in bad weather. Fight nights and Bowl games were good, though.

While my single best tip ($50 for a $12 order) came from an older black lady who lived in a rough apartment complex), the best tippers tended to be single working mothers, liberals, fat people, and former servers/drivers. Drunk/stoned people were a mixed bag. I quickly learned the bartender trick: never carry coins or any bill larger than a one (if the bill is $15, and they hand you a twenty, you're more likely to see something back if you don't give them a $5).

Also, and I've mentioned this on a previous Mickey-complaining-about-tips thread, as a delivery driver I have had my car run off the road and into a guardrail, I have been mugged at gunpoint ($65 worth of tips gone), bitten by dogs, and threatened by more people who meant it than you could imagine.

naus (naus), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

to the tables who gave me really bad tips tonight after i gave them really bad service: i'm sorry. we were really understaffed tonight and i had way more work to do than i could possibly handle. i didn't mean to give you poor tips. thanks for complaining to the manager about me. it's nice to get feedback. no hard feelings, okay?

hm (modestmickey), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

urgent tipping question: some guys are coming in an hour to clean and fix the gutters on our roof. $260 for the job. should we tip and if so how much??

― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:51 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 12:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

count the leaves at the end give them a dollar for every gold leaf and take one away for every silver leaf and if the difference is more than fifty send them hang-gliding

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

a++

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

aye, it's good hang-gliding weather this time of year, it's true

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 14:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Good joke, that

three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 00:00 (six years ago) Permalink

tipper rarely

t. silaviver, Friday, 1 February 2013 02:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Bring nationalism into it, that'll surely help

three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 09:28 (six years ago) Permalink

xp you went a long way for that one

lxy, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink


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