what i found when i used to deliver furniture is that the richer the person was the less the odds I'd see a tip. So - to list a few predictable tipping cross-sections:
• The wealthy: lousy• Lawyers: the worst• Housewives: never• The elderly: tippers, but never very much• Blue collar males: good (a pick-up truck, for me, was always an indicator of an impending quality tip)• Russians: always good for some reason
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
How do you think they got rich in the first place, huh, sonny?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 18 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I do actually have a big problem with people just assuming that they're getting a tip because they do some form of service? You wouldn't think to tip the cashier at the store where you bought the furniture. Like I said, I generally do tip people who deliver large items or movers and stuff, especially if they are friendly and very helpful, but seriously when I've worked in stores that offered delivery service, those people made significantly, significantly more $$$$$$$$$$$$ than the other people who worked in the store. So, in closing, teeny please do not feel bad.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 18 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway i enjoy tipping - you give a guy a couple bucks then you both feel good abt the situation.
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
restaurants = 20%
counter service = usually a dollar if the counter person has to do any actual work
― without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
GOOD service = 20%
I always try to break 15% percent and round up unless the service is awful.
If the bill is tiny, you gotta do 20% because who wants a sub $2 tip?
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
sonic and coffeeshops always give me anxiety though. never sure if I should and how much.
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
goodbye!
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Normally I tip 10-15% for a meal.
Moving house guys usually = my mates + a hired van and therefore tip = crate or two of beer once we're all done.
I don't tip delivery people apart from the paper boy.
Tipping barstaff is a rarity apart from in my Dad's local where there is good value in buying the barmaids a couple of drinks.
There's a definite UK/US cultural divide on tipping but I think it's becoming more common in the UK. We now have people sitting on toilets in some city pubs giving out hand towels and cheap aftershave and staring meaningfully at their saucers of loose change.
― Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
I just remembered I tip food delivery people too.
― Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link
God, I should only tip 10%
We now have people sitting on toilets in some city pubs giving out hand towels and cheap aftershave and staring meaningfully at their saucers of loose change.
Least favorite part of seeing shows at "upscale" venues here... fucking cocoa butter smell in the lav.
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Labor and employment lawyers are awesome tippers!Social justice types = good tippersCurrent/former servers = good tippers unless they receive bad service in which case they are ruthless.
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, in flagrant violation of laws posted right there in the back of the cab, every cab driver in Chicago constantly talks on a cell phone while driving. But that's clearly another thread.
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
place on christie and grand totally not fancy but has a bathroom attendant wtf
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
But I am (almost) a labor and employment lawyer, a social justice type, AND a former server/low wage worker so I'm pretty much a giant bleeding heart when it comes to tipping. Except I won't counter tip if all the person did was ring up my order and hand me change. I think counter tipping is becoming a way for employers to weasel out of paying their employees more money (but you make tips!!!) and I disapprove of this trend toward the private ordering of wages.
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Pardon me, but WHAT THE CHRISTING FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT? I'm Canadian, as is Thermo Thinwall.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOM. BOT. (trm), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
My roommate just asked me to call her a cab, I asked where she was going, etc. She said that she expected the cab to cost $14, I told her I'd drive her for $8.
Do I get tipped?
― Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Last night ate out and the bill was 30 and change. . I tipped 6.50 and then felt bad b/c that seemed kind of chintzy right here at the holidays. I should've just gave her ten. :(
― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― haitch (not haitch) (haitch), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
...on the other hand i'm not on probation
― lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Shit, is there a tip db
― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
unfortunately, then finals hit and we all moved out and completely forgot about the paper tip! aaah! we will have to do it when we get back in january. what's appropriate?
― Maria e (Maria), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link
i get frustrated by a lot of waitstaff tho b/c i feel like i'm low-key and so they're not super attentive or whatever -- like just notice when i've got my arm sort of gently waving and take my order, and then notice it again when i want my check and otherwise whatever dude. even tho i always tip well, i feel like lots of places don't have this very basic concept down and so you get waitstaff totally preoccupied with this or that more demanding table or issue instead of first just trying to keep orders and bills straight.
― sterl clover (s_clover), Friday, 22 December 2006 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link
valet parking came with my hotel room package (in chicago)...how much do i tip the dude that brings me my car tomorrow morning? and do i give it to him or the front desk (logic is that someone else parked it and they should share, or something?
― colette (colette), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― PPlains (PPlains), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link
If it was me, I would. I always tip more when I expect to use a service again, and would like people to think kindly of me. I realise this is a capitalist crime: using my money to get superior service, but I don't care. I tip my hairdresser well because she cuts only my hair when she is dealing with me, she doesn't flit off to talk to other clients, she doesn't stand around chatting to other hairdressers, and she gets a great cut done quickly. That earns you a big tip in my book.
One of the nice things about working in a charity shop was that people kind of gave you tips, by putting money in the collection tin on the counter. So even though the charity got the money, we all got to feel like it was our good service that was getting that little bit extra for them.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 22 December 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 22 December 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Did I miss something? Have you moved back? Or do you mean now that you live in the UK?
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― marcos (mucho), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I did recently get completely gamed by a pizza deliveryman who seemed to refuse to understand that I wanted change from him (he did a very amusing "I no longer understand English" thing at which I point I just shrugged and let him keep it haha.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― sgh (sgh), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link
If, tho, I'm tipping a beautician who has her hands busy with other customer (pedicure, etc) if I'm acquainted w/ someone from previous visits I put bill into apron pocket directly.
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST DO NOT DO THIS. It pissed me off every time someone did it - this is not The Sands circa 1962, you are not Dean Martin. Doubly bad when it's a lousy tip.
― milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link
no, it's a salon, present-day where that's the usual way you tip someone
or you can put the tip in the little envelope and give it to the person behind the desk. i don't see why you wouldn't trust them - how many times are they going to get away with 'no, s/he didn't leave a tip' when the stylist person comes asking?
― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Maria e (Maria), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link
But the only time I got cuts in a gen-u-ine salon I was dating a stylist and the tip was dinner.
― milo (milo), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Tonight went to happy hour with friend and we tipped as if full price on happy hour drinks and snacks. Server got $8 on $28 check.
― suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 29 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Clearly you don't have much experience waiting on the French, Dutch, German or Brits. Oh and Canadians! They are the ones that'll sneak up on you: no strong accent--except the French-Canadians--and then at the end of the meal--BLAM! You get a credit card with the dreaded maple leaf.
I will always give each group of people consistent service because while I might suspect that a German or Black person might tip me poorly, I would only be guaranteeing that by favoring others who fit the good-tipping demographic.
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Not true at all! I delivered pizza for one of the big US chains when I was in college, and found that rather than a percentage, people tend to tip a specific dollar amount. Say the order was $20, you'd most likely get $2 from it. A lot of people don't tip at all, specifically Born-Again Christians (though I now have a good collection of Chick tracts), poor whites, poor blacks, realtors, and office managers (when delivering to offices). It's different being alone with someone on their turf—they can be as rude as they'd like and there's no societal pressure on them to make themselves look good. You guys in restaurants had it easy. Five dollar tips were considered good. We would also have to pay for our own gas and car maintenance. For each delivery we took, we got $.50 for gas, which in many cases wouldn't cover the distance there and back. To make up for this , we'd try to take more than one delivery at a time, if they're both going in the same direction and ordered at the same time. Oh, and if the cook fucks up, I have to make a second delivery FOR FREE (though if you're charming, you can turn a second-trip into a $5 tip). On a typical Saturday night, I'd make ~$75 for about 30 deliveries, putting about 105 miles on my car (but it's stop-and-go driving, so I was getting the low end of my Camry's fuel economy) so minus $12 for gas. And people ordered more and tipped less in bad weather. Fight nights and Bowl games were good, though.
While my single best tip ($50 for a $12 order) came from an older black lady who lived in a rough apartment complex), the best tippers tended to be single working mothers, liberals, fat people, and former servers/drivers. Drunk/stoned people were a mixed bag. I quickly learned the bartender trick: never carry coins or any bill larger than a one (if the bill is $15, and they hand you a twenty, you're more likely to see something back if you don't give them a $5).
Also, and I've mentioned this on a previous Mickey-complaining-about-tips thread, as a delivery driver I have had my car run off the road and into a guardrail, I have been mugged at gunpoint ($65 worth of tips gone), bitten by dogs, and threatened by more people who meant it than you could imagine.
― naus (naus), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― hm (modestmickey), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link
urgent tipping question: some guys are coming in an hour to clean and fix the gutters on our roof. $260 for the job. should we tip and if so how much??
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:51 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
count the leaves at the end give them a dollar for every gold leaf and take one away for every silver leaf and if the difference is more than fifty send them hang-gliding
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
a++
― Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
aye, it's good hang-gliding weather this time of year, it's true
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
Good joke, that
― three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
tipper rarely
― t. silaviver, Friday, 1 February 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
Bring nationalism into it, that'll surely help
― three day temp bar (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 1 February 2013 09:28 (eleven years ago) link
xp you went a long way for that one
― lxy, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link