Anybody know about New Mexico?

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How hard is it to find a job there? How hard is it to live there? Do you know anyone who has successfully escaped allergies by relocating to NM (or anywhere else)?

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

my dad had a much better time with his allergies after he moved to eastern AZ. NM is a nice state but it's big!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

NM is a nice state but it's big!

and this is bad because?

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

How hard is it to find a job there?

not really sure. an aunt of mine who's semi-retired makes and sells jewelry around albuquerque and santa fe (and on ebay).

How hard is it to live there?

i wouldn't want to. the food's good and the mountains are pretty but i'd be bored out of my skull.

j.m. goatse (get bent), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh I wasn't saying it's bad, I'm just saying it's hard to address things like job availability over such a big area!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Right. I'm thinking of Albuquerque maybe. (I do plan to at least go visit the place before packing.)

Basically, I've hardly been functional the past four years thanks to around the year allergy and sinus problems so I'll take a boring place where I can be active over a place where there's a lot to do but where I am forced to stay inside and vegetate.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got allergies and definitely feel right somehow in the southwest. there's a lot of southwest that isn't NM, too.

mickey kaus moved to santa monica to escape allergies, i believe

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I've just heard the best things (related to allergies) about NM, this mixed than what I've heard about Arizona, but you are probably right that I should look at the southwest generally.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i think albuquerque is a boomtown these days, seems like there are lots of jobs. new movie studios are opening up, and intel's largest factory in the states is in rio rancho. not really sure what type of jobs you'd be looking for, but it definitely seems to be going up. the housing market has been really slow, too, so perhaps buying a house wouldn't be that difficult.

as far as culture, you kinda have to make it, but it seems like there's enough to do. tons of amazing things to see within 5 hour drives or less (ie. tons of beautiful canyons/mountains, indian pueblos, casinos, cool historic stuff, etc.). and while it's not a total hotbed, lots of bands do play in albuququerque as it's in-between socal/az and texas (and there ain't much else).

i'd probably move there for the food, alone, tho. going out next week for the holidays to visit my dad and stepmom, and i can't wait.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

not really sure what type of jobs you'd be looking for, but it definitely seems to be going up.

I'm currently a librarian in a public library, but I'd be happy to get out of that lines of business. I don't feel very marketable (outside library land) with an MLS though. Maybe I just have the wrong attitude about it.

Food: if the climate doesn't clear my sinuses, the chili peppers will.

this mixed

I meant less mixed.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(What I really want to get out of is working with the public as a librarian, but the opportunities for behind the scenes type work seem to be shrinking. At my own library, there is a slow movement in the direction of elminating what had been the collection development department and greatly reducing an already shrunken cataloging department. This is part of a national trend, I think.)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Some Albuquerque culture: http://www.rahimalhaj.com/

(Just put out an incredible CD.)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Tep should weigh in here. Taos is on his short list of places to live next.

I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got a handful of friends that live in the Fe. It's a bit small and $$$, but yeah, the food and the desert and the mountains will pretty much knock your socks off. Albuqurque, as stence said, is sorta booming right now and I think that trend will continue. Personally, I think I'd have few problems relocating there.

xp omg Taos

grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

one way to figure out how much is going on in these places - go to Pollstar and plug in the city and maybe include surrounding cities

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm currently a librarian in a public library, but I'd be happy to get out of that lines of business. I don't feel very marketable (outside library land) with an MLS though. Maybe I just have the wrong attitude about it.

perhaps you could get a university job? i would think actually having an mls would be quite marketable in n.m.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Albuqurque, as stence said, is sorta booming right now and I think that trend will continue. Personally, I think I'd have few problems relocating there.

i prefer tucson, az; it's a bit more er "bohemian" (but in a shaggy-dog way, not in an overpriced-bad-art-for-tourists santa fe way).

j.m. goatse (get bent), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

or a museum job? (xpost)

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, but Alb is closer to Taos!

grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

santa fe /= albuquerque.

yeah, but Alb is closer to Taos!

it is?

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess you mean closer than tucson?

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Albuquerque is gorgeous and friendly and livable, and yeah, the whole region is growing big these days, so no worries about getting stuck in any kind of economic sinkhole. I'd also say that it feels more like a regular city than Santa Fe or Taos, in a good way; it all depends whether you want to spend 24 hours a day feeling like you've really, really moved to New Mexico -- i.e., adobe everywhere -- or be in a less self-consciously New Mexican town. That goes for culture, too; we may not be nationally aware of stuff going on there, but there's still a decent amount. That goes double if you have any kinda hippiesh tendencies, since there are plenty of dippy types who've wound up down in that direction and do weird art and happenings and stuff.

Also I don't want to derail this into a thread about Mexican food but OMG yum. And I don't know if they've finished the Nabisco Boyhood Home museum in Portales, but there's always that to look forward to.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

http://lungaction.org/reports/sota05_table5.html

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

but see also - http://lungaction.org/reports/sota05_table6.html

that seems to expand the list somewhat.

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you know anyone who has successfully escaped allergies by relocating to NM (or anywhere else)?

I successfully escaped years of horrible sinus trouble by leaving the midwest for the Phoenix area. However, after 5 years of living there, I developed asthma in reaction to russian olive pollen (only in the month of April, when they are blooming). I could escape it by heading to Flagstaff (they don't grow at that altitude) or down to Tucson (where it is illegal to plant them).

jaq (jaq), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait! There's a NEW Mexico?

soveryverysorry (Miguelito), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the old one had too many Mexicans.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Venice is nothing to sneeze at: We have allergies to thank for Kaus' presence here. Raised on the Westside (his father was the late state Supreme Court Justice Otto Kaus), he went to Harvard, wrote for Washington Monthly, revered for its contrarian essays on liberal governance, then went to the New Republic. He first dabbled with an Internet column in 1997 for slate.com, after ceasing work on a novel. He moved between the coasts a couple times in the '90s, most recently returning in 2001, finding that the allergies that plagued him lessened the closer he got to the beach.

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.thewellers.com/weller43/sunshine.htm

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting list here - http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/respiratory.aspx

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the Fe recently and it struck me as totally like Jackson Hole, Wyo., or Sun Valley/Ketchum, Idaho (not sure if you're familiar w/these places or their connotations, but basically elitist richo/tourist joints). I only spent two days there but I could be wrong.

I just moved to Las Cruces. Not a big job market. But people are super fucking kind and friendly (I got in a bad bike wreck my first week here and the ER tech gave me 50 bucks right out of his pocket to help me buy food/get a taxi home, random strangers definitely have dependable kindness).

Everyone I talk to says their allergies were exacerbated by moving here–my fiancé is totally dependent on Claritin now. But this could just be a SW NM/Northern Mexico/east Texas thing? El Paso is really close by & a lot of people commute there. they have a good job market.

Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, this looks potentially really useful:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/index.php

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

How is the water situation in NM/AZ?

We're fucked (for the most part) in Texas, but I don't know if those two have been as badly mismanaged.

milo (milo), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I stopped off in Hillsboro once (between Las Cruces and T&C). i kind of wanted to retire there

freddie da 262 (hb262), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess its more between Lordsburg and T or C

freddie da 262 (hb262), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

where's that last pic (and which is the mountain)?

nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 25 December 2006 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I was born in Albuquerque, so I know that.
I also know that they say that Santa Fe is less than ninety miles away.
My grandparents live there half the year; the winters. Apparently it's great for my grandma's arthritis, and my grandfather loves to paint and go horseback riding and whatnot. I though, in my visits there, have been kind of bored. There's a great used bookstore in Las Cruces, and yes, lots of neat turqoise & silver jewelry. Also there are neat aerospace and military museums. Also: ALIEN MUSEUM IN ROSWELL.

ian (orion), Monday, 25 December 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

How is the water situation in NM/AZ?

dunno, probably not great but there's 2 feet of snow on the ground here, so probably better than last year.

where's that last pic (and which is the mountain)?

that last pic is looking out from the top of acoma sky city towards mt. taylor, 45 miles north. the san esteban del ray mission (pic #2) was built on top of sky city by the acoma tribe, they brought wood for the beams/roof of the structure from mt. taylor BY HAND. if any of the wood was dropped, it was "unpure" and not used to build with (and i assume whichever indian dude dropped that shit got dropped as well). the mission was incredible, but they (as you see) don't allow pics of the inside. there are still something like 50 or so adobe houses on top of sky city that are still functioning today, some residents live there year-round (despite no running water or electricity - the road up the mesa that john wayne's production company built in 1958 during the filming of "way out west" makes it a lot easier though).

the petroglyph in pic. #1 is from inscription rock at el morro, which just celebrated its first hundred years as a national monument (it was designated by tr). from indians to spaniards (including diego de vargas, who returned new mexico to the spanish after the pueblo revolt of 1680) to americans, there's carvings all over the bases of the rock cliffs there.

I was born in Albuquerque, so I know that.

i thought you were born in rio rancho, poseur!

going to santa fe ski basin tomorrow...

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 25 December 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess maybe i was born at the hospital in rio rancho but when my parents lived in albuquerque? that or the other way around.

ian (orion), Monday, 25 December 2006 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

six and one-half, dozen the other...

anyway i'm glad i'm up in the mountains this xmas. rio rancho is okay for a suburb, but being up here totally rules.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 25 December 2006 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

two feet!

lucky. you in the Fe? if you run into a girl named L3gs, kiss her and tell her i said 'hi.'

baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

no, near albuquerque. i have no idea who you are.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 25 December 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i know this

baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

mt. taylor

one of the four sacred mountains

despite having spent a fair amount of time in the sw, i've never been to nm. anyone been to acoma on a feast day? is it especially worth it vis-a-vis any other day?

nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 25 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still interested in this. My allergies are destroying me here on the east coast. I'm hoping to visit Abq. in the summer. (I think it would be best to visit when it is hottest, to see how I tolerate it.)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 25 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Albuquerque, Flagstaff, El Paso, etc. are of a high enough elevation and dry enough that the 90-degree summers aren't as brutal as you might expect. Bad, but nowhere near as bad as Phoenix and Austin/Houston/Dallas.

milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, you might even want to visit in winter when it might be colder (at least at night) than you imagine

nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone been to acoma on a feast day? is it especially worth it vis-a-vis any other day?

my parents went this past feast day, they said it ruled. sept. 2nd, if you're playing at home. it has to be "especially worth it" as it's the only day of the year they don't charge an arm and a leg to go up to sky city.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, i'm thinking about that one. I assume you could do Acoma and El Morro in a day; would you want to? would it be crazy to try to do Acoma and Chaco or Bisti in a day even if the roads were dry?

nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

we did acoma and el morro in a day, no problem.

i think chaco or bisti might be more of a stretch, tho.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

one difference in the southwest that some people don't know/think about is how windy it can get, what with the flat landscape (mountains notwithstanding) and the swings in day/night temperature. It annoyed the shit outta my mom when she lived there.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

cliff dwellings at bandelier national monument, today:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/334623227_cdba4b2960.jpg?v=0

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link

hrm don't know why the other pics i posted didn't show up. oh wells.

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link


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