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What is the difference between a clementine, a tangerine, a nectarine and a satsuma?

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

satsumas don't have seeds/pips?

don't know?

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

god i love satsumas, i'm going to get some at lunchtime

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Size?

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

spelling

teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

don't ask me! i am the question asker.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

although i think one of them might be a hybrid. oh hang on, a nectarine is totally not like a citrus fruit is it? it's more like a plummy peach. scrap that one.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A nectarine is nothing like a satsuma. A nectarine is like a smooth-skinned peach.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, xpost!

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

well then what's a Mandarin then?

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

A chinese person

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ok i checked my answer on wiki, i'm half right.

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm ambidextrous.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

they are all farmers' attempts to make fruit less sticky and are therefore ALL THE SAME.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i think bitterness might have something to do with it. i think a satsuma is a kind of mandarin.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

A clementine, a tangerine and a satsuma are all citruses. Satsumas have a looser skin, plumper segments and a sweeter, less complex, less sharp taste. They are particularly popular in the UK, though less so than they used to be, and citrus farmers are increasingly abandoning their cultivation in favour of other varieties.

Clemintines tend to be smaller than tangerines, and have a thinner skin. I don't think they ever have seeds, either. Tangerines are more like oranges than the others, really. They have seeds.

A nectarine is like a peach but with smooth skin. yes. This was achieved by crossing them with a plum, I believe.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I may well be confusing mandarins and tangerines. Mineolas (sp?) are another one. I think they might be a cross between one of the others and a grapefruit.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

who are you the.. fruit.. man?!

i looked up nectarine on wiki (i'm allowed that one, right?) and it says nectarines are just a variety of peach but just happens not to be fuzzy. i always thought it was to do with plums, but perhaps not.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I like clementines best, is the only thing I really need to know, when I go to the shops. And nectarines, but as has been noted, they have nothing to do with the others.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard of "tangelo" too, but I'm not sure what that is.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I only heard the "nectarines are non-fuzzy because they were crossed with a plum" think recently and I fear I may have been sold a pup.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

DL - if you too thought they were related to a plum, how could you have confused them with a citrus?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Well a peach must have been crossed with something smooth-skinned to make a nectarine, so why not a plum? That seems quite logical.


Google picture search (that's allowed, right?) for tangelo reveals:

http://www.florida-citrus.com/g&sphotos/Honeybells.jpg

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

citrus farmers are increasingly abandoning [satsuma] cultivation in favour of other varieties.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Well a peach must have been crossed with something smooth-skinned to make a nectarine

I too have now looked up nectarines and your premise is wrong (well, according to this authoritative-sounding page):

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm those tangelos look tasty!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Ledge - I heard a Spanish man a citrus-growing association interviews on the radio last year about it. He was politely saying "satsumas are for those with rather undeveloped tastes and only the Brits haven't completely moved on to better citruses".

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

DL - if you too thought they were related to a plum, how could you have confused them with a citrus?

Cos I am stupid, ya get me (YGM?) ?

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"Talking of Pleasure, this moment I was writing with one hand, and with the other holding to my Mouth a Nectarine -- how good how fine. It went down all pulpy, slushy, oozy, all its delicious embonpoint melted down my throat like a large, beatified Strawberry."

John Keats

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

agree. eating a satsuma is like something that the cast of "look around you" would do, these days.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, undeveloped tastes - yes I have a sweet tooth! I like the tangier ones too, but the easy peeling is what sells satsumas to me. I never eat oranges, far too much like hard work. (xpostage)

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

From that authoritative-sounding page :

Nectarines will sometimes appear on peach trees, and peaches sometimes appear on nectarine trees

So nectarines are smooth-skinned variations of a peach which just randomly happen as if by accident?? Mutant peaches. This seems ludicrous.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

satsumas are for those with rather undeveloped tastes

food snobbery ahoy. why i oughta!

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, why are oranges that much more popular/famous? they are so messy! is it cos that's all we used to get and the other citruses are a relatively exotic newcomer?

i just ate a satsuma/clementine/somethign or other and it tasted really bitter and now my fingers smell of bad breath.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oranges make me sneeze :(

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's because oranges are better than any of these innit.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i spend too long stripping the white shit off tangerines. satsumas peel really easily, great for eating in a hurry. or something.

oranges take about half a day to eat, best to use a knife.

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Clementines are the greatest of all wee oranges.

Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Trouble With Oranges is that they are not suited to the slovenly ways of my adulthood. When I was a kid, I'd usually eat fruit at the table. In that context, they reward the formal pace imposed by being seated with a plate, a knife and a napkin. Sometimes my mum would cut them in half and serve them like a grapefruit, for breakfast. Other times, we'd cut them into eighths and suck them off the skin.

A sastuma, in particular, is more like finger food, by comparison.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Mandarin isn't a chinese person either, it's just a language.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

or a certain group of dialects, to be precise

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Mandarins were chinese rulers, back in the 19th century.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

They were abandoned in favour of straighter fruits.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Mandarins are not the only fruit.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude! Did you watch Belgian telly the other week? Some guy - a (hahah) celebrity cook - came on telly to explain this!

Sadly I have forgotten the difference. If I'm not mistaken a clementine is of the mandarine family, right? And a satsuma is a Japanese fruit? Harder skin? Err, no, I'm thinking of something else.

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

mandarin = china orange
satsuma = japanorange
clementine = lost and gorn forevah

cis boom bah (cis), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

doglatin IS a celebrity cook innit! pukka.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

clementine is orange juice mixed with clam juice innit, you can make a philips screwdriver with it by mixing vodka.

it's like clamato juice and bloody ceasar.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Clementines always taste a bit green for my liking, and they're too pippy. I like a sweet, easypeelin' satsuma.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely the real question here is: do I dare to eat a peach?

emil.y (emil.y), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Clementines are the popcorn chicken of the produce world. - Mr Chr1st0ph3r Cpr3k, 2003

Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends on which continent you're on, emil.y.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Minneola is a town in southwestern Kansas

Ulysses Smith (hb262), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

recently i've had a Pluot, which is a plum/apricot hybrid. it looks like a big fat apricot with streaky red on the skin, and is a livid purple on the inside. tastes ok.

and i've also had a Graple, some kind of apple/grape monstrosity. looks like a granny smith but tastes like it's been dipped in whatever they make grape koolaid out of. way way unholy and fucked up. only redeemed by daydreaming about earth crisis fans flipping out about vivisectionists and putting a garbage can through my manager's door (he gave me said graple)

urghonomic (gcannon), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never heard of the 'Satsuma'.

nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I recall satsumas being individually wrapped in red paper proclaiming their illegality in most states.

sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

One is orange, one is green, one is yellow, one is purple.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

For around 1300 years from 605 to 1905, Mandarins were selected by merit through the extremely rigorous imperial examination.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

what about those things they sell only in small crates - I think they are called "cuties" stupid name, great tasting tho, are they a breed of clementine or satsuma?

Wiggy (wiggy), Thursday, 14 December 2006 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

clementines rule, satsumas are ok, HONEY tangerines are grebt - other varieties so-so, Nectarines pwn peaches, mineolas & tangelos are tasteless. any more questions?

bill sackter (bill sackter), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, blood oranges pretty much the best of the citrus lot

bill sackter (bill sackter), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Blood orange juice is king of the juices.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link


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