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Today I thought I'd boost my karma. I managed to secure a seat on the crowded Cambridge line train to King's Cross and I was all "YES!". But then I looked around and loads of people were standing up. Now normally it's a given that you'd give your seat up to someone who is old or pregnant or whatever, but something compelled me to swap with someone halfway through the journey. They weren't infirm or old by any standard, but I felt sorry for all the poor buggers who had to stand up all the way and thought I'd just swap. The person I swapped with seemed genuinely surprised but gladly took the seat and thanked me on the way out.

Look how nice I am!

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"there was this weird dude on the train this morning and he just randomly gave up his seat for me. what a bloody freak"

srsly tho, very kind of you.

Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

After a few months of commuting, these weird compulsions will fade, as you see how commuters can behave like animals to one another.

Woman who came WAY after me this morning pushed her way in front of me in the getting-on-the-train stampede. I very nearly pushed her under the train.

I'm always suspicious of people who offer to give up their seats tome on public transport. I just want to shout I AM NOT PREGNANT, I AM JUST FAT, OK?!?!?!? Though I don't. I just take the seat and smile.

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i wasn't sure how she'd react really. was it on ilx that someone witnessed a young guy give up his seat to a woman in her late thirties, who retorted "I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I AM IN MY SEXUAL PRIME, FUCKBAG!" at him.

I just realised I was sitting amongst a bunch of iPodded suited men who had their noses poked firmly into their papers/books/PSP's and I felt guilty. Yeh, people treat each other like pigs on the trains.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Good intentions backfiring = uber classic. Sometimes I go out of my way to be nice to people, just so I can occassionally get some of that sweet, sweet backfired goodness. There's something really satifsyingly unsettling about being yelled at for trying to help/be nice to someone. Maybe it's because these are the only occassions in my life where I *know* I'm in the right.

teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm always shocked when people blatantly refuse to give up their seat to someone who's elderly/on crutches/obviously pregnant - it seems to be a hard and fast rule especially that suited&ipodded boys will NEVER EVER STAND UP FOR ANYONE. or indeed display many other common courtesies.

more amusing is the quizzical look seated people give to people in their late 50s/early 60s who board the bus - "you are old but are you old ENOUGH for me to move?"

lexpretend (lexpretend), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

woganlenin, do you believe in GOOD MANNERS and read the DAILY EXPRESS?

Buses to work this morning were all nearly empty... :-)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Back when I used to commute, I used to feel a bit guilty because our train was always empty when it got to our station, and then full two stations later. On two occasions I got up and gave people my seat halfway through the journey, but mostly I just reminded myself that I was paying more than twice the price for my ticket and stayed where I was.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

woganlenin, do you believe in GOOD MANNERS and read the DAILY EXPRESS?

hah, that advert is possibly the most annoying in the history of adverts.

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah yes, of course, I forgot that the bloke says "I STAND for good manners" because he stood up so that the old lady could sit down DO YOU SEE WHAT HE DID THERE?

Daily Express ad - I'd say nuclear holocaust in two seconds.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

more amusing is the quizzical look seated people give to people in their late 50s/early 60s who board the bus - "you are old but are you old ENOUGH for me to move?"

There's a 60 year old man in my office who came in the other week complaining because some "cheeky wee bastard" offered him a seat on the bus.

Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah yes, of course, I forgot that the bloke says "I STAND for good manners" because he stood up so that the old lady could sit down DO YOU SEE WHAT HE DID THERE?

Plus, why did they feel they needed to have the only token black guy in the ad giving up his seat?

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe black people care about Diana too?

Fred (hb262), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

DIANA WHITEWASH: TV'S AINSLEY HARRIOTT SPEAKS OUT

UK TO BE HIT BY RUSSIAN WINTER IN JULY

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

a young guy give up his seat to a woman in her late thirties, who retorted "I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I AM IN MY SEXUAL PRIME, FUCKBAG!"

Sometimes what looks like good manners is just trying to score points with a hottie (or milf.)

a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

My grandmother: "A man gave me his seat on the train yesterday, and do you know what? He was Asian!"

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to take a bus out into the countryside then walk for almost a mile to get to my work. It's nice in the summer but in this weather when the road floods and the bus is detoured it's not so good.

I used to enjoy my commute, I don't drive but 99% of others in my building do. My bus was virtually empty until about six weeks ago when a factory opened next door to my work.

Now when I leave to walk to the bus-stop I have to speed-walk in a race against forty Polish folk to ensure I get a seat. And by god do they know how to power-walk.

Rumps (Rumps), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm always shocked when people blatantly refuse to give up their seat to someone who's elderly/on crutches/obviously pregnant - it seems to be a hard and fast rule especially that suited&ipodded boys will NEVER EVER STAND UP FOR ANYONE.

I once refused to give up my seat. I had a bad knee and it sucked having to stand. There were loads of other people on the tram so why did the old bag (sorry, lady) have to moan about me not standing up? I really did want to say to her: Well, let's swap my crap knee for your age?

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That'll teach you to carry a diagnostic letter from your Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon on your person at all times! ;-)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Heheh. I mean, I can understand her aggrevation (or whatever you call it) but it doesn't mean that because you're 40 yrs younger, you are not suffering more than them. Right? :-(

OH AND WHAT ABOUT THAT IDIOT? I always make sure I put my hand out when I'm on my bike and will turn in a side-street. Does the idiot notice this? No,he still speeds up to me and nearly runs me over! I mean, FOR FUCKS SAKE! I always make sure I show that I'm going to change position but do they give it a thought? Fuck no.

*sigh*

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

How much revenue would a Bruges congestion charge raise?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually they changed the direction so that, if you travel by car, you're always bound to get outside the city. It's *mental terrorism*. They don't dare to say:"Fuck off, you tourists." Instead they made sure taht all streets are one direction and more or less all lead outside the city.

I think in maybe a decade, they'll attempt to make Bruges like Venice: no cars at all. Would be coolio for me cause I don't drive a car! :-)

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Wish they'd hurry up and do that in London. They closed off Oxford Street to traffic a couple of Saturdays ago and it was great; you could walk from Marble Arch to Centre Point in about ten minutes, plenty of space, generally a better feeling. Then it was back to congestion, twenty empty buses in a row, Sven Svenson and his Swinging Backpackers walking six abreast down pavements which are barely wide enough for two people to pass...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

:-( I know, they should keep cars away out of cities. Better for global warming as well.

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeh, people treat each other like pigs on the trains.

For the most part, I agree, but I got a very timid, brely-audible "bless-you" from a stranger on the subway the other day. After I sneezed, I mean. Never happened before.

franny (frannyglass), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Another thing - bus lanes are by nature useless, since the quarter of an hour you have to spend queuing up to get in them cancels out any advantage they might ever have had.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

You miss the point Marcello, bus lanes (+ cameras) are a nice SOURCE OF REVENUE for local councils.

Not that I've been fined for momentarily putting a wheel in one, oh no.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's already scientifically proven that December Makes Pubs Rubbish but it seems to have the opposite effect on public transport. Seats on my train are gettin easier and easier to come by.

yeah i wasn't sure how she'd react really. was it on ilx that someone witnessed a young guy give up his seat to a woman in her late thirties, who retorted "I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I AM IN MY SEXUAL PRIME, FUCKBAG!" at him.

Did I reply "I know, I'm standing up because I want to have sex with you"?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I have found bus lanes have sped up some of my bus journeys considerably

Fred (hb262), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd have to be nearly dead to get my Subway seat, because Glasgow's toy trains have roofs too low for normal-height people to stand up under.

stet (stet), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

This is true. Not to mention the Argyle Street and Glasgow Central subway stations, with their attractive brash yellow design and smell of misplaced micturition which as far as I can tell are unchanged from 1978.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Argyle Street and Glasgow Central subway stations? Have you gone off your rocker, M?

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I think he means the low-level always-flooded smells-bad line.

stet (stet), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeh, people treat each other like pigs on the trains.

For the most part, I agree, but I got a very timid, brely-audible "bless-you" from a stranger on the subway the other day. After I sneezed, I mean. Never happened before.

As I say... ;-)

wogan lenin (doglatin), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I missed out the always-flooded part.

Then the enigmatic rumble under Bridgeton, then the dramatic emergence into the picturesque daylight of Dalmarnock!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

At least it's cool down there (or, if you prefer, dank). I've fainted twice on the London Underground and once on the Paris Metro and nobody has every helped me out. I had my knee stroked by a weird lady on the Paris Metro and somebody (I couldn't see who) felt me up once too, but at least that's never happened in London. Oh, I got felt up on a bus in Rome too, but I wasn't commuting then, I was touristing.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link


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