Esteban Buttez R.I.P.

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Anyway, it's time to call it a day for Esteban Buttez. The Esteban Buttez character is dead as of now.

-- Nice Esteban Buttez (estiebuttez...), Today. (King Esteban)

you will be missed

― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

long live the resistance

― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

but...

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Thoughts and prayers.

― PPlains (PPlains), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

;_;

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

LOVE YR GUITAR PLAYING DUDE

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back Gangsta Andy Partridge!

― substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Pinochet yesterday, Buttez today. Thatch tomorrow?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

where were you buttez-boosters when he needed you on that mod request thread?

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was Nude Spock under the guise of Esteban, b/c everyone seemed to be mentioning Nude Spock a lot.

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

if you thought it was nude spock why the ;_;?

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.brealonline.com/proofrip.jpg

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

b/c now I realize it's not Nude Spock

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was Nude Spock, too, mostly because I didn't realize that Esteban was actually as much of a troll as he liked to make himself out to be. Dude always seemed pretty harmless to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

If you want to discuss things with me, Phil, discuss them here rather than on private email please. I have no wish to enter into an off-list discussion with you.

To answer your questions. I have nothing personal against you. As I sort of said upthread, I don't care about you. Please understand this. I don't care about you. You're just some weird kid who lives thousands of miles away, why should I care about you? Quite possibly IRL you're a nice guy. How would I, or anyone who doesn't post on the aus/nz region thread ever know? I have not been uncivil to you on this thread, as far as I can see. I described you as acting like a dick, which you have been, fairly consistently.

The last time I had to use admin actions against you is as good an example as any to illustrate this. You started a thread on ILE - a racist screed, with Geir's name attached on the end of it. I deleted it. What the fuck else am I supposed to do? It's not OK to impersonate other posters generally, and especially not to post offensive material. So as soon as I deleted it, you post up another thread - an antisemitic screed with my username attached, so I deleted that as well, so you then post up an obnoxious, bleating complaint thread, which I also deleted. At that point I IP banned you, even though I knew you'd be back on with another proxy in 10 minutes or less. You get back on, and start crowing about it on 1p3, as if using a proxy is difficult or something. I post up that it's not OK to impersonate other posters, your response is "I am a beloved forum comedy character, I can do whatever I want".

You have done shit like this over and over and over again. You post goatse in the middle of an ILM thread, it gets deleted, you know it's going to get deleted and you know why, nevertheless, you then spew out a load of bile, about it - Matt DC is a "dumb cunt", steve m is a nazi, I'm a nazi, whatever. Someone posts up something libelous, so it gets deleted. Obviously it's going to get deleted, IRL people have been fucked over in court for having libelous material on their message boards. What do you do? You post it up all over the place, thenwhen it gets deleted, you freak out about it, nazis, hitler, dumb cunts etc etc.

On top of that there's the constant sniping. I read the board over the last week, and in just about every thread I open, there's you, sniping at southall, passatino, carlin, kate saint claire's band, gooblar's band and so on. It's like a dog marking its territory by pissing everywhere. It's a pain in the ass for people, they don't want to read this shit, and they certainly don't want to read it all the time.

You describe youself as a part-time troll, yet the only place you consistently treat people with any decency and respect is on the aus/nz thread, outside of that thread, I'd estimate that about 7/8 of what I read w/your username attached is sniping. Seriously, I see enough personal beefs here, but I don't see anyone else doing that, except for bato, who gets banned on sight these days anyway.

The problem isn't me, or matt, or steve or whoever moderating out of control - anyone can look at the mod logs and see how little moderation actually does get done, since the spambots got locked out. The problem is this behaviour:

1/constant, unpleasant petty sniping

2/repeated posting of unacceptable material (libel, porn, putting offensive words into other people's mouths so to speak)with consequent tantrums when such material is deleted.

What the fuck do you expect to happen when you do this? Your existence does not, as you say, make me so sick that I want you kicked off the boards, the fact that you think I'm a cunt is a matter of total indifference to me, believe me. It basically boils down to what I said upthread:

people should be able to enjoy using the boards without having some idiot constantly sniping at them.

-- Norman Phay (vietgrov...), December 11th, 2006 1:40 PM

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess he never wished any of us any specific harm...

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

where were you buttez-boosters when he needed you on that mod request thread?
-- sede vacante (n...), Today. (blueski)

i didn't think you ~~admins~~ boring jerks were actually going to ax him

― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

or force him into retirement, whatever

― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

who?

― Ste (fuzzy), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, he'll be back. He might have to go off and nurse a knee injury, or maybe he'll head to Hollywood for a movie or two, but sooner or later, he'll do a "surprise" run-in during the main event and be back in the action.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dustyrhodes/31.jpg

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

he will be missed.

― grady (grady), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring back Gangsta Andy Partridge!

E-40 is alive and well.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

estaban isnt going anywhere. he still needs to see the final top blonde poll results.

― sunny successor (katarina), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

steve m is a nazi

This is otm

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, people actually care about this?

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

That whole ModReq thread is a great "five phases of death" comedy routine, but it gets kind of ewwww at the depression/acceptance part.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

lol, the things I miss now that I'm not reading modreq!

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

steve m is a nazi

This is otm

right...because i temporarily disrupted your ability to read ile after you did the same for others. get a grip already, hypocrite.

and lfam i find you extremely boring/irritating and jerk-like as well but i don't go on about it on the boards unless you have a pop at me first.

i'm not sure what you guys are doing here (or me having to read this useless crap every now and then) really.

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG I need to rebookmark modreq, roffle roffle roffle

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, someone's a ray of fucking sunshine. GOOD nazis do it with style, like Noodles

― jw (ex machina), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://usa.mapexdrums.com/images/news/yorn_HR.jpg

― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

pobrecito

― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

dan otm.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

does that mean you won, forks?

― acrobat (acrobat), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

a pyrrhic victory at best

― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

without esteban, we all lose.

― grady (grady), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you don't seriously mean that.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

estebanned, please come home (for realz)

― bliss (blass), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and stevem i find you extremely boring/irritating and jerk-like as well but i don't go on about it on the boards unless you have a pop at me first.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

who else will say booyah???

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't imagine what i won. the otm was just on the needing to bookmark the admin board. and the hilarity.

― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

why does anyone care about this?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

and stevem i find you extremely boring/irritating and jerk-like as well but i don't go on about it on the boards unless you have a pop at me first.

why did you start this thread again?

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

why don't we have a NVR 4GET estie pic yet?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I just still can't understand how EB dropped in quality so precipitously from the early, enigmatic all-caps days. It was like hero to zero in the blink of an eye.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

None of us can understand it, Tracer, no one can. *shakes head*

― g000blar (g00blar), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Good thread!

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i think some timeout for EB to research on new and more exciting material can only be a good thing.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Esteban's called Phil?

― Maaarghk C (Maaarghk C), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Skipping 17 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

ILX - where everybody shares the same idea of what is interesting and what is worth caring/talking about.

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel OTFM.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

that was an interesting post what "Laurel" posted there as a post

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

LOOK AT THE ESS-CAR-GO!! HAHAHA

― Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Get off this thread and start talking about things that are interesting, all of you. THIS is why the board has been slow for days now? Feh.

I don't think there's anyone SOLELY posting on Esteban threads, is there?

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Is "faffing" for real something people say? What a hilarious word.

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ailsa, mostly I am bored and wish things were moving a little faster on other topics. I am just pretending that this is the fault of pointless nit-picking on this thread, which I suppose it could be, but eh.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i love threads like this!

― urghonomic (gcannon), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I say "faffing" a lot. Is it just a Scottish thing?

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel, it is indeed possible that sandbox traffic is slow because of all the fussin and a-feudin

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i love threads like this!

why?

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

carwreck.jpg

― urghonomic (gcannon), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

People faff in England too, definitely.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"Faffing In England" (Esteban RIP Bubblecrunk Edit) - ILE Massiv

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I do fuckloads of faffing, but never actually say it. It's a good balance.

Esteban = zzz
His being banned = zzz, but welcome.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Esteban is worthwhile if only for his half assed zings of Dom and Forks which serve to move the meta-humor engine that is ILX forward.

― jw (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

ILX needs a humourectomy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this sums up my feelings on Esteban: http://www.eskimo.com/~ciscoe/archive/spider.html

― jw (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

he actually named me on his myspace. thought that was odd.

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

link plz

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:JXAoXUfxiwoJ:ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php%3Fmsgid%3D7459384+site:ilx.wh3rd.net+esteban+buttez+myspace+account&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

How do I attract Estebans to my garden?

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

thread connections:

Serial Killer in Ipswich (22 new answers)
Esteban Buttez R.I.P. (88 new answers)

― obi strip (sanskrit), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

WHA! TEH SANDWHICH KILLER MURKED ESTEBAN?!?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Esteban had mellowed out lately, at least on ILE. Still, it is interesting how his trajectory was quite similar to that of Calum. I wonder if there is some universal troll behaviour theory to be deduced from here.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

his trajectory was quite similar to that of Calum.

How so? If anyone's the new Calum it's PEW. (I.e. one-trick pony starting boring, predictable threads)

― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

he actually named me on his myspace. thought that was odd.

You were cutting and pasting from it in every second thread and I had to give props to mah homiez.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I appreciate everyone's approval of my trollers' remorse! You're a bunch of swells!

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

EVERYONE ENCOURAGED ME!

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I am always baffled by these soap-opera type threads.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember when Adamrl posted that Calum parody about Billy Idol masturbating you in a dinghy? Good times.

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I realize now the way I worded that implies that Billy Idol was masturbating Shakey Mo specifically, which I promise wasn't the case.

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

You were cutting and pasting from it in every second thread

this doesn't make it any less odd phil.

How so? If anyone's the new Calum it's PEW

PEW is quite different to Calum from what i can tell. Phil's behaviour v similar to Calum's in terms of quickness to and persistence of abuse, starting endless threads to complain about/garner sympathy for his treatment, general inanity, obsession with certain others (e.g. dom in the same way calum targetted ned) and the fact that he could be perfectly civil on the odd occasion (esp. after repeated pwnage).

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

PEW is totally different from Calum. Instead of endless pseudo-feminist sex fantasy threads its all sub-Jack Black-style "questions" about Rock.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

but he keeps it to his own threads right?

― sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure but in general I think that's correct...? I can't remember if he started that Louie Louie/garage rock thread on ILM, which was the first thread where I really noticed him gettin his troll on.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf is pew?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

is that some kind of lame ilm troll?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

yes.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

he likes,, toROck

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

he is a grand wizard of the rlu rlux rlan

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Calum was before my time but...

starting endless threads to complain about/garner sympathy for his treatment

Complain, yes! Garner sympathy, not really.

general inanity

Fuck off (in a civil, non-offensive way).

obsession with certain others (e.g. dom in the same way calum targetted ned)

I think you will find that it's the other way round, my friend!

and the fact that he could be perfectly civil on the odd occasion (esp. after repeated pwnage).

Yes, but at random times not after mythical "pwnage".

Steve, as the kids say - "let go!"

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

do you mind? we're talking about paul now

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

sede vacant, do you ever go to bed?

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Let go, dudes.

Let go.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

BRITISH CITIZEN STILL UP AFTER MIDNIGHT OMG

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

actually i'm only up because i'm still sorting out gf's atp photos. talk about under the thumb.

― sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

If Esteban turns face and joins the ILM brand will he be able to carry over his Interconintental Championship belt?

― jim (jim), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah but the United States Champion will need to turn heel and join the Aja/Dante brand, obv.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

BRITISH CITIZEN STILL UP AFTER MIDNIGHT OMG

lol, i wuz only messin dude.

― Ste (fuzzy), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

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