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worthy foreign film, i'm going to return you after two and a half months of sitting unopened on the kitchen table so that i can get back to watching old episodes of the wire.

― lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

haha!

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, i have an unwatched netflix in my bag right now that i've been meaning to return since september.

― paresthesia hilton (get bent), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I called in sick on Tuesday from work, and used the downtime to rifle through 4 movies that had (mostly) been sitting since, like, JUNE. Yikes.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 8 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I've watched Death Race 2000. But for some reason, I cannot bring myself to put it in the mail.

― molly (molly d), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

is that the one with udo kier? so nuts!

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not getting anywhere with His Girl Friday, shamefully.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

that IS shameful!

― laureN (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

For me, I think War of the Worlds and The Thin Red Line hold the record for longest unopened and never watched.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i don't think he's in it. it does have david carradine and a very young sylvester stalone.

it's completely ridiculous. and great.

― molly (molly d), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

d'oh - i just looked it up. totally different movie. i was thinking of terror 2000.

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes get up on some bittorrent action not paying for three movies you don't want to watch at all.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Hush, I have Kontroll and a documentary about Jewish homos coming today, I am very excited.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Trembling Before G-d? I tried to get people to see that with me a few years ago, but no one bit, so I still haven't seen it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I keep meaning to put that on my queue. Thx.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

This happened to me... It was Kiezlowski's "Blue" I think and i kept meaaaaaaning to watch it but never did. I checked it out a few months later from the lib and needless to say was amazed.

I also accidentally sent them my first disc of Upright Citizen's Brigade Season 1 and am most certainly keeping their 7 Up/7+Seven disc

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Not netflix but I've had a friend's copy of Amores Perros for months and months and months. It looks kinda depressing and I never feel like watching it (esp. as I now have an endless stream of netflix).

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

can I use this thread to complain about how people call DVD's they've rented from netflix "a netflix"?

― akm (akmonday), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

sure!

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I use it to bitch about how they changed the tab from "Recommendations" to "Movie's you'll [heart]" and I OBJECT.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god I hate that.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 8 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh fuck that [heart]!

I've been sitting on my 3 Netflix flix for over 6 weeks now. They're quite flat.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

what about you when you actually DO watch the movie but still can't seem to get it inside the mailbox

― this is cutty (mcutt), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Netflick = singular; Netflix = plural.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

even worse - when you think you've mailed your movies and you're wondering where your new shit is and the old shit is still in yr room, collectin yr dust. :(

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm the worst, I tend to be the type who, on the rare occasions I just flat out forget to send a movie back, I start reporting the damn thing stolen and insisting I get a new movie straight away. It's a wonder they haven't shut me off.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 8 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I accidentally mailed in disc 4 of Band of Brothers instead of The Transporter 2.

― milo (milo), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Kyle, do these same people list their favorite Netflixes on their MySpace? (Argh, "their MySpace" doesn't even sound wrong anymore!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

How do they know what I'll HEART? This is my biggest problem: you can recommend something, please, be my guest. You do not know me better than I know myself, and damn you, Netflix, for departing from your smart business model and quality service that I'm happy to pay for, and taking it just THAT MUCH too far into slimy advertising and language-poor territory.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Their recommendation system is terrible anyway, it's like you rent one "children's" flick and you get nothing but 47 versions of the Lives of Thomasina recommended to you for 3 months.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 8 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

so true.

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I would HEART not being throttled by netflix.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

HA. with my current rate of return, i'm in no danger of that.

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, I'm amazed there are people out there worse than me with Netflix. I did finally send back three recently, and I just got Style Wars, a disc of season 4 Simpsons, and Badlands, all of which I am very excited about. I also didn't get to watch the Weather Underground doc from the last batch, but at least the wife did.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Style Wars and Badlands are both pretty awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"[T]he wife"!!! Has that gotten old yet?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

me at work: "Sir, the call number you requested is for a LaserDisc"
stupid patron: "Oh, a DVD?"
me: "No, a LaserDisc"
stupid patron: "Is that different?"

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Leslie Stahl didn't even bother to bring the throttling up on 60 Minutes.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"[T]he wife"!!! Has that gotten old yet?

Well, it's not so much funny anymore, but it still always strikes me as surreal - whenever I say "my wife" I feel like I'm talking about someone else. Even more so for "father-in-law" "sister-in-law" etc.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Saturday, 9 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

*Wifey* and I watched the Kamp Krusty and Streetcar episodes tonight. Ah, so classic.

― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Saturday, 9 December 2006 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing to do with netflix, but I've had a VHS copy of The Exterminating Angel since about 1997 that I've never watched. We got a bunch of Buñuel films in at work and I felt a pang of guilt.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got greencine. i thought i could get satantango nov. 28, now it says Jan 1, 2099. pwned.

― MAP (mattp), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

my netflix defeat routine: return the three unwatched worthy foreign films I've had out for months and bump Zoolander to the top of my queue.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

currently sitting on my desk for 3 weeks:
yi yi (173 minutes)
naked (131 minutes)
birth of a nation (187 minutes)

― a.b. (abanana), Saturday, 9 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

when catherine hepurn died i was all ok i'll try one out and i got the philadelphia story - from then on netflix thought i was gay.

whatever i canceled that sucky shit 2 years ago.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Saturday, 9 December 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been netflix defeated for months now,it's really bad

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Saturday, 9 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i just last week sent back three films when i realized that two of them were mailed to me last dec. 8 (the third was sent me in march). i didn't want to cross the year threshold. i basically stopped watching movies in '06 except for the ones i had to watch for a thing i was working on, but for some reason it didn't occur to me to stop paying netflix for the privilege of not watching movies. anyway, i've resumed my dvd consumption and i'm gonna make up that $240, just wait.

― tipsy mothra (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 December 2006 07:31 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, time is such a factor. if it's over 110 minutes, it pretty much ends up on my defeat list automatically. it took me three rentals and wisdom tooth surgery until i finally sat down and watched andrei rublev (which was worth it, obv).

― MAP (mattp), Sunday, 10 December 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

this thread makes me feel so much better about myself and unwatched movies/tv that i have around
(and i don't even have netflix! or equiv)

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 10 December 2006 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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xpost yeah the throttling would be ok if it was temporary, but I first got thr0ttled in July or so and it's never quite gotten back to normal, even after I slowed down of my own accord.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I have only had this problem once when I got the treasure of the sierra madre. and I learned my lesson to only watch things you really want to watch. these were the movies I watched in the last month. I highly recommend Stick It.
Beerfest, 2006 12/06/06
Land of the Dead, 2005 12/04/06
Superman Returns, 2006 11/28/06
The Devil and Daniel Johnston, 2005 11/29/06
X-Men 3: The Last Stand, 2006 11/28/06
Strangers with Candy, 2005 11/21/06
Thank You for Smoking, 2005 11/21/06
Lucky Number Slevin, 2006 11/21/06
Grizzly Man, 2005 11/14/06 11/21/06
The Lake House, 2006 11/17/06 11/21/06
Stick It, 2006 11/15/06 11/21/06
Weeds: Season 1: Disc 2, 2005 11/14/06
Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan: Season 1: Disc 2, 2004 11/06/06
Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan: Season 1: Disc 3, 2004 11/07/06
Weeds: Season 1: Disc 1, 2005 11/09/06
Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan: Season 1: Disc 1, 2004
V for Vendetta, 2006 11/03/06 11/07/06
The Break-Up, 2006 11/01/06 11/06/06
Failure to Launch, 2006 11/01/06 11/06/06
The Notorious Bettie Page, 2006 10/30/06 11/03/06
Nacho Libre, 2006 10/23/06 11/01/06
The Office: Season 2: Disc 4, 2005 10/24/06 11/01/06

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the throttling of my account was getting ridiculous

Does this happen if you go through movies too quickly or what?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

No. 55 on my queue : The Barbie Diaries

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

my girlfriend and i are in a constant struggle over netflix, i want to watch everything within a week of getting it, she hems and haws and procrastinates until we've had it for at least a month. if I pick something I try to make sure right off if she has any interest in watching it, and if not then I get through ASAP. but sometimes she'll pick something, and then will put it off and occasionally will ultimately decide that she doesn't want to watch it at all (this happened with Eternal Sunshine, i'd seen it already and she hadn't, and let it sit in the apartment for 3 months before finally sending it back). drives me insane.

― Al (Alex In Baltimore), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I go through movies fast and have never been "throttled". But that may be because there is a facility in Queens?, so it is pretty hard for it to take more than a day unless it is over the weekend.

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(Xpost) Solution: get separate queues. The inefficiency of occasionally repeating the same movie will be dwarfed by the lack of strangling.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, as soon as the netflix software or whatever the fuck it uses catches on...although it took a good three years before it started happening to me. i wrote them and complained and got a standard stock email about how they strive for the best possible experience signed by "the debbie". I wrote back and told "the debbie" to eat shit. maybe this is why i get throttled...

― thebingo (thebingo), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We blew threw Bringing Up Baby, Smartest Guys In The Room and Miami Vice on Saturday! Miami Vice was terrible, oh my GOD. And put them in the mail yesterday morning! Let's see how fast it takes them to start throttling us again.

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"blew threw" coke in a can at 1pm is no substitute for coffee in a cup at 8:30am, kids

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

We watched Marathon Man last night - we'd had it for at least a month. I find the way to beat Netflix is to be unafraid to send something back that you know you aren't going to watch. I'm in the middle of finals and anxious enough so Inconvenient Truth went right back to the distribution center in exchange for The Apartment.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i've started doing this too :/
victims:

downtown 81
the best of youth
vital
lady vengeance

actually i've started each of those, but never finished

― v (sleep), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

miami vice rulez

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha - I'm compounding my Netflix issue by abusing my DVR. "Oh, shit - Phantasm II!"

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i was also getting return envelopes for distribution centers in other states rather than the one thats 2 miles from my house.

― thebingo (thebingo), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe there will be another class action suit and for one month we can take out for movies that we won't watch instead of three.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Blockbuster online has been surprisingly pleasant regarding A) the phenomenon of the delivered-broken Eerie, Indiana disc 1 debacle, and B) the delivery of the bonus discs in place of the actual film discs of the following: Comic Book: The Movie, Dr Strangelove. Now ideally we would be receiving A) unbroken B) correct discs in the first place, but hey, service with a (phone) smile!

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had Gremlins 2: the new batch sitting at my house since June. Sad thing is, I actually DID watch it, but I lost the sleeve and just didn't bother trying to solve the problem. Finally found the sleeve about a month ago, but then a friend wanted to borrow it. Now I'm bugging him to return it. I AM TERRIBLE AT THESE PROGRAMS; I had joined netflix once before as well, a few years ago, I had "the prince and me" and "bad santa" for like 4 months

― maunders (maunders), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Netflix is good about scratched/broken/missing disks too (in fact reporting a mistake on their part seems to trigger an anti-thr0++le mechanism, at least temporarily).
I know it's smart to just send back something I'm not keen on watching but it takes a long time for logic to kick in. I did it with Amarcord finally after 4 months but most of the time I just procrastinate and then steel myself and slog through the movie(it rarely ends up being the slog I think it is of course).

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I have had Brazil and discs one and two of The Decalogue for like four months.

The inventor of Netflix figured out how to make a shitload of scratch off me lazily watching reruns of The King of Queens. Genius.

― Jay (jaymacke), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

if you lose the sleeve you just send it back with another disc.

xpost

― walterkranz (walterkranz), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i'm gonna return my outstanding movie tomorrow because i have a hankering to watch wild at heart (inland empire this afternoon + the wizard of oz right now = no brainer).

― boo you whore (get bent), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i've joined and quit netflix twice because of this shit. now i'm doing the same thing with DVR, basically

― jo ga11ucci electrix (joseph), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I have about 15 movies on my DVR right now, mostly rare flicks from TCM.

― A Radio Picture (Factory Sample Not For Sale), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

When I finally got Eraserhead after months of queue I kept it for about a month after I initially watched it, not because I intended to watch it again, but out of spite.

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

finally finished yi yi. it wasn't very good!

― a.b. (abanana), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was great!

― v (sleep), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally watched His Girl Friday, too. I think I preferred Adam's Rib.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally watched A History Of Violence. Meh...

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Tried to watch L4yer Cake, too scratched to function.

― jaq (jaq), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Netflix pissed me off this week. I wanted a specific movie to watch on Christmas/Christmas eve and it was listed as "Shipping Today" from WEDNESDAY of last week through Tuesday. So Tuesday I asked if they could cancel that and just send the next movie on my list, since it hadn't been processed for almost a week and it was past time that I was hoping to have it for anyway. As SOON as I complained about it, the movie changes to processed and I am told that it is impossible to do this (like, literally, while I'm on the phone with customer service, they "Hmmmm hmmmm hmmmmmmm well...ah...hmmmmm" for like 5 minutes and then "Oh, it's being shipped!" UH). I kind of want to weight down their postage-paid envelope a little, since they apparently like wasting so much time and postage :(

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i have had the same netflix movies for over a year i think.

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

it's like groundhog year.

― violent j (sandboxhulkington), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

where bill murray doesn't ever learn anything from his predicament

― shakey mo jopotatoes (bundgee), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

dude just mail them back.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Finally watched A History Of Violence. Meh..."

i just watched this too. i liked it! it made me wish i was a human killing machine.

we got rid of netflix a long time ago cuzza the netflix defeat syndrome. they just sat there and sat there.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 28 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i am syked for more viggo/cronenberg mayhem too!!!:

Eastern Promises follows the mysterious and ruthless Nikolai (Viggo Mortensen), who is tied to one of London's most notorious organized crime families. His carefully maintained existence is jarred when he crosses paths with Anna (Naomi Watts), an innocent midwife trying to right a wrong, who accidentally uncovers potential evidence again the family. Now Nikolai must put into motion a harrowing chain of murder, deceit, and retribution.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i was defeated by netflix in an avalanche of west wing dvds. barely made it to season 4. time to move on...

― shakey mo jopotatoes (bundgee), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm thinking of rejoining for six months or so to catch up on a bunch of movies I want to see and old tv series I missed a few seasons of. six months was about the length of usefullness I had for netflix last time I was a member, then I wound up with the same problems everyone else had (truffaut films laying around unwatched, etc)

― akm (akmonday), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, Viggo plays such bad-ass bad-asses.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

it made me wish i was a human killing machine

or an ass-beating machine in high school?

I am battling against NY Public Library defeat by all the TV series I have out right now: Deadwood, Cracker, The Office (UK, the last two).

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, Viggo plays such bad-ass bad-asses.

Viggo was great (the very last shot of him-as-Joey is A++), but the movie never felt like it coagulated together especially with the wife/son stories. A better actress (Maria Bello = ick) could have pulled it off, but in the end Bello was one-note shrill.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

you are a hot milf cheerleader hater! i thought she was good. and not the least bit icky!

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never been defeated by Netflix.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I might watch Cache tonight! Or I might leave my pit & go see Children of Men! Or I might do neither! The world is my oyster, and I'm ashuckin!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Defeated! Forgot to order both discs of Godfather II!

― Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Friday, 29 December 2006 06:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I carried Constant Gardener across three provinces and 4 months before finally just breaking down and admitting that I'd rather read the book than watch a three-hour movie starring him from the English Patient.
Also BOO to Zip (Cdn Netflix) for not making more clear which French movies DO NOT have subtitles. I was SOOO looking forward to a La P'tit Vie marathon.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 29 December 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally watched The Bird People in China! It was really good!

― johnny crunch (johnny crunch), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I burn all of my received movies within 12 hours of receiving them, I've become obsessive about it. After two years I have boxes of coverless burned discs. My friends borrow them, they are so happy.

Wait, did I just admit that?

― Adam Moultin (Crummy Chair), Sunday, 31 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard of people doing that. That's like defeating Netflix ... excepting for the part about not having watched a whole bunch of discs. In that sense, it's super Netflix defeat.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

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