We're both 27, no kids. I'd like to have decent groceries, eateries nearby, maybe a little nightlife. Hipsters are neither preferred nor shunned, but I'd rather take a less hip neighborhood that's a bit safer and more pleasant (relative to the South Bronx) than a neighborhood that has new art galleries but your car windows get smashed every week.
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― jim (jim), Thursday, 7 December 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 December 2006 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link
But shit, I never even been to NY.
― austin!@#$ (austin), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, SoBros before SoHos, amirite?
― bliss (blass), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― austin!@#$ (austin), Thursday, 7 December 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I had thought I really wanted to move to Inwood, because it's so pretty and kind-of strange, but when I actually started looking at places up there, I decided against it. It seemed like very little was open at night and that there were only a few places to eat. The buildings I looked in were all beautiful from the outside, but really dark and lonely inside. But it's probably still worth looking at places up there, especially if you want a lot of space.
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 7 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link
off topic but when is gentrification gonna come to the Grand Concourse? those buildings rule!
― bliss (blass), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― paresthesia hilton (get bent), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― paresthesia hilton (get bent), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link
it's totally already started.
Washington Heights is probably the 'nicest', but would Inwood be more interesting?
― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link
http://glob.anewyorkthing.com/wp-content/photos/plastic3.jpg
― obi strip (sanskrit), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link
-- paresthesia hilton (jb...), December 7th, 2006.
Are you taking a shot at me?
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ray Cummings (skateboardr), Thursday, 7 December 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 7 December 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
this, exactally, in the atlatic terminal Mall too.
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
FROM THE GW BRIDGE????
bliss is right, btw, depending on what part of Bronx your lady works in it could be either reeeaaally easy from Washington Heights or a huge pain in the ass. Get one subway map, I'm assuming you know where the GW Bridge is, and pin-point from there. None of these neighborhoods are expensive. Nor will you get your fucking windows smashed in every week but I think jbr has already taken shots at you so I'll keep my mouth psuedo-shut.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
well, gentrification of the south bronx has already been mentioned in the times, so i guess that it's a matter of time b4 the hipsters, the yupsters, and whatevahs show up.
agreed about those grand concourse buildings, they're sweet!
― Eisbär (Eisbär), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link
aw i was just teasing
― paresthesia hilton (get bent), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (garance8...), December 7th, 2006.
My wife teaches in the Fordham area and her school is along the D line, which might be a good reason for Harlem.
I've lived in a few sketchy places before so it's not like I'm cowering in fear of crime here (there are plenty of muggings, window-smashings, etc. in downtown Jersey City) - the comment was only in reference to the South Bronx. I'm still a little skeptical about the gentrification there even though I've read the Times coverage and whatnot. I'd certainly sacrifice some safety and quietness for an interesting neighborhood with good food and things to do - I didn't mean to make it sound like I want suburban living in the city.
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link
my gentrification sweet spot - a few good restaurants around, but before the baby and pet stores. ft greene has gone way deep into the baby/pet store phase and is moving on to whatever comes next. i still like it tho - def couldn't afford to get a place here @ market prices.
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eisbär (Eisbär), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
That gets overturned in places where people are both upstanding AND poor, though, Hurts. I eavesdropped on a bus convo once between an older man & woman, both longtime residents, about the fact that all the new apts going up in Prospect/Crown Heights would only be affordable to "working people", ie whites with white-collar jobs. (The term "working people" was repeated several times with particular emphasis.) They shook their heads sadly and sucked their teeth over it but what can you do?
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
http://web.archive.org/web/20060221203340/http://www.mediumheat.com/odds/toddp.htm
TP: ...The cops, on the other hand, have these mixed feelings of on one end purely trying to push people out and raise real estate prices. And there's actually corruption going on where they harass people to clear the area. But I would say that's the minor motivation. The more important one is that there's actually this attitude that what they're doing is actually fighting gentrification. So they feel that what they're doing is protecting the old-timers.
JM: From young white kids?
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― bliss (blass), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― bliss (blass), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
I think it makes pretty good sense - the cops wanting to on one hand clear out all the "bad people" (poor) but protect "their people" (working class/middle class)
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― blastocsyt (blastocyst), Friday, 8 December 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Plus I just realized there's a Fairway in Harlem. I think the decision is made.
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― obi strip (sanskrit), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
The market up there isn't all insane like most of Manhattan - everyone was laid back about credit checks and none of the people even needed to hear back from us the same day.
East Harlem (6 line) seems like it might be a better value at this point, not to mention good Latin American food. I sure would like to be near that Fairway though. And damn, I must say that Dinosaur BBQ (across the street) is fantastic.
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Sunday, 10 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
We had back luck with these situations
― jw (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link
take the 7 to D.
Take the triborough to drive to Bronx or GW Bridge.
10 minute drive to Grand Concourse/Fordham
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, what is yr guys's take on paying the broker fee for supposedly better apartments vs. that's bullshit just use craigslist?
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link
we had a broker who showed up our apt. He was very rude and frustrating. We found the ad on craigslist. We went back to apt and saw it again. Super didn't recognize us from when broker showed it. We took apt, minus broker fee, after much debating of ethics. Upon signing of lease, manager says "so you found apt through craigslist? That's the best way...most brokers these days just show you the same apts that management companies/owners are advertising themselves...."
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link