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has anyone read the atheist's guide to reality?

your voice of treason, Thursday, 29 December 2011 01:41 (nine years ago) link

if you're reading any new rad philosophy books, plz let us know itt too

your voice of treason, Thursday, 29 December 2011 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Seems to me that any book with 'guide to reality' in the title would necessarily be damn presumptuous.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 December 2011 01:46 (nine years ago) link

ordered Martin Jay's "Marxism and Totality" and excited to read it when i get a chance.

ryan, Thursday, 29 December 2011 02:12 (nine years ago) link

Re-reading Adorno's 'Commitment' for the 15235902305th time.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 29 December 2011 02:14 (nine years ago) link

kinda resentful of the fact that merleau-ponty's the visible and the invisible is proving much chiller than i anticipated, i was expecting no more than a quick scan through to grab some stuff for what i'm currently working on, but instead it's rich and exciting enough to demand a close reading.

i've been on a ridiculous buying binge since i found myself with scholarship money, but that didn't stop me from having philosophy stuff on my christmas list - isabelle stengers' thinking with whitehead, your 600 pages will be the death of me when i have to carry you back home.

m. yeux, Thursday, 29 December 2011 02:30 (nine years ago) link

ooooh i want to read that Stengers. i loved "Cosmopolitics."

ryan, Thursday, 29 December 2011 02:57 (nine years ago) link

I met a girl with the last name Kirkgard today, and somewhat unsurprisingly she's a descendant of the pallid Dane.

wrinklepause, Thursday, 29 December 2011 03:05 (nine years ago) link

i love martin jay, ryan. have u heard his songs of experience? i heard him speak at Cordoza once about Adorno's beef w/ Benjamin's pseudo-fascist auras

Mordy, Thursday, 29 December 2011 03:25 (nine years ago) link

rad philosophy books

t. silaviver, Thursday, 29 December 2011 07:12 (nine years ago) link

Cordoza = Cardozo?

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:01 (nine years ago) link

Kind of want to read this NYRB novel about Wittgenstein.

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I've set myself the goal of going through the early classical philosophers — starting with Plato's Socratic dialogues. Should I go in any particular order or should I just dive in wherever?

tanuki, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:32 (nine years ago) link

What about the pre-Socratics?

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:33 (nine years ago) link

Fcuk Plato

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:34 (nine years ago) link

xp For some reason I had assumed that none of their writings had survived — is there a good collection of pre-Socratic texts?

tanuki, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:37 (nine years ago) link

There's a book by Nietzsche about them that is good, but I don't know which collection of whatever survives is the one to get.

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Heraclitus!

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:45 (nine years ago) link

This looks good:

http://www.amazon.com/First-Philosophers-Presocratics-Sophists-Classics/dp/0192824546

tanuki, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Also, Democritus's life always appealed to me.

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Kind of want to read this NYRB novel about Wittgenstein.

― P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:21 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

the reissue of 'the world as i found it'? it's interesting but for most purposes i'd read the monk bio (or even the bartley one) instead maybe

thompp, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:54 (nine years ago) link

xp - yes

Robin Waterfield's The First Philosophers is a good anthology.

woof, Thursday, 29 December 2011 16:55 (nine years ago) link

Yes, thomp. Actually I used to own a copy of the Monk bio, which went missing in a move. I liked what I read of it, maybe I should go back to that.

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:02 (nine years ago) link

Cordoza = Cardozo?

yes typo

Mordy, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:03 (nine years ago) link

For a while I thought you meant Cordoba and I was wondering whether it was the one in Spain or Argentina :)

Re Wittgenstein: what about that Alexander Waugh book?

P-Moose (Wants To Get Moosed Up) (James Redd), Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:04 (nine years ago) link

Only read it if you intend to think of his name as being pronounced 'waff'.

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:07 (nine years ago) link

I haven't read the Waterfield book but Jonathan Barnes' Early Greek Philosophy has been helpful to me. They seem to have the same basic layout of having all of the fragments tied together with context and exposition, so as introductions go I wouldn't imagine there'd be much to separate them. Beyond that kind of dry format Heidegger's obv v good on the pre-Socratics, and while offering ~unconventional~ readings he doesn't really do that major-thinker-writing-on-major-thinkers thing of completely assimilating them into his own thought.

m. yeux, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:19 (nine years ago) link

Really? I haven't read Heidegger on the Vorsokrater. I really enjoyed the pre-Socratics as much as anyone in Philosophy.

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:23 (nine years ago) link

iirc his essay 'The Anaximander Fragment' is particularly good. But looking at it again now I may have been lying terribly about the not-assimilating part...

m. yeux, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:29 (nine years ago) link

:( Is his prose as turgid as usual?

M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:33 (nine years ago) link

ha, I dunno, scanning through and reading bits here and there it looks alright, but then I've spent the last three months reading The Phenomenology of Spirit so I'm sure I've lost all sense of what constitutes readable philosophical writing.

m. yeux, Thursday, 29 December 2011 17:49 (nine years ago) link


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