RIP Christopher Hitchens

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hope i'm still alive when all the ribald tales of that rascally lush and inveterate bon vivant glenn greenwald show up in his obits.

t. silaviver, Sunday, 18 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

The most hilarious photo in Hitch-22 is of our hero and a few Kurds lighting celebratory cigarettes after the US invasion, as if this was the point.

― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:35 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 19 December 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

ugh of course

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

pareene OTM

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

feel like it could b a fun project to define "roiphe." is it "gargling balls?" "licking boots, at payless shoes?" we could put the agreed upon definition on urban dictionary

nuhnuhnuh, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

why is it that every time I encounter something written by Katie Roiphe my main takeaway is "this is one of the worst people in the world"

OH NOES, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think it's because you are literate

slandblox goole, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

you nice liberals are so literal-minded. she's just a provocateur! isn't it fun?

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

She claims Hitchens drank last July, but he said several times that he gave up drinking; he'd lost the taste for it.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://imnotatoy.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/w5bcn.gif?w=500

nuhnuhnuh, Monday, 19 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

good katha pollitt remembrance bit.ly/tjCN5l

max max max max, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

TNC grapples with Hitchens' support for Iraq.

Nevertheless, I think Glenn's frame is wrong. Virtues don't excuse sins; they cohabit with them. Thomas Jefferson was a slaveholder. Perhaps worse he was a slaveholder who comprehended, more than any other, the moral failing of slavery, and it's potential to bring the country to war, and yet at the end of his life he argued for slavery's expansion, and on his death many of his slaves were sent to the auction block.

At his end, Jefferson sided with those who would eventually bring about the deaths of 600,000 Americans. He argued that the antebellum South would have either "justice" versus "self-preservation." To paraphrase Churchill, it chose the latter and consequently got neither. But Jefferson was a beautiful writer, and a great intellect, whose thinking and prose I consistently find stunning. This admiration does not negate his moral cowardice. Both are true at the same time. (The same point could be made in regards to our conversation over Elizabeth Cady Stanton.)

Given Hitchens own ties to this magazine, of which I'm very fond, I'd like to say that--at least in this space--there's no demand for exclusion, or any sense that Hitchens worthy of unalloyed admiration. No one should ever receive, or wisely desire, such a thing. I can't really speak for other people, but I don't believe in an essential, irreducible moral nature. I don't see Hitchens, or anyone else, as a case of either/or.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

pollitt's piece is good. it's kind of a trip for me to imagine them interacting irl.

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

What I saw was that drinking made him angry and combative and bullying, often toward people who were way out of his league—elderly guests on the Nation cruise, interns (especially female interns).

post graduate level zing

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

really who dreamed up this idea of a cruise as fundraiser for a political magazine

slandblox goole, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

just imagining it is so strange and horrible

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

there should be a short story where it's really some kind of bait and switch and they've all joined the navy reserve or an oil shipping line or something

slandblox goole, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

shanghaied to write spam for the russian mob

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for him twice, and I wouldn't want to be at sea w/ Ralph Nader (esp if Jim Hightower was also around)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

what u voted twice for ralph nader how has this fact never come out on ilx before???

jk :)

Mordy, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

morbs and nader bunked together in the navy how has this fact never come out on ilx before???

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

haha

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

i just cannot stop imagining a soused hitchen screaming at a tableful of old lefties just tryna enjoy their chicken a la king and then flipping the table and storming off in disgust

max max max max, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

its really amazing

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

katha pollit clucking in the background

horseshoe, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

chainsmoking in his cabin angrily writing out a 1200-word screed about the variety show

max max max max, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

threatening to quit if pollitt doesnt publish it immediately, on board the ship

max max max max, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

puking over the side of the deck while his intern holds his hair

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

trying to charm an indifferent waitress with a story about dodging a militia in lebanon and then barfing over the side

xp lool

slandblox goole, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

really who dreamed up this idea of a cruise as fundraiser for a political magazine

http://media.salon.com/2010/07/pollster_scott_rasmussen_to_speak_on_national_review_cruise_for_free-460x307.jpg

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

haha goole

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure couscous is favored over chicken a la king on The Nation cruise.

also Richard Dreyfuss was on it a couple years ago

Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

why was Richard Dreyfuss on some couscous?

OH NOES, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Dan crunches on indefinite pronounds like cornflakes.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

RICHARD DREYFUSS OVER A BED OF COUSCOUS JOIN US NATION MAGAZINE CRUISE 2012

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

*pronouns

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

btw I hate to tell u this year's returned to port yesterday

http://www.nationcruise.com/

Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

lol at puking while an intern holds his hair

caek, Monday, 19 December 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://nearemmaus.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/hitch.jpg?w=690

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

omg he rode a folding bike, it all makes sense now

Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 19 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

he was recreating Lenin's arrival at Finland Station.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 19 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

Not as funny as I wanted it to be.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

still pretty funny

iatee, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

The first time I saw him, he had a bird on each arm and a woman by his side.

Sometimes the cheap laughs are the best.

ledge, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

overrated tumblr whites

nuhnuhnuh, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

Ron Jeremy? come on, bro.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link


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