+ the most popular movie is the country was Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
The Hangover Part II was the most popular film comedy
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
i never asked to engage with your opinion on any level. xp
― nuhnuhnuh, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
I don't watch a lot of new movies but I think the 'tv renaissance' is totally overblown. there are a handful of shows w/ movie-esque budgets. almost all tv is bad. really bad. worse than watching a bad movie.
the fact that you're talking about "budgets" as if that has a direct relationship to quality says it all imo
still all this tv renaissance stuff is like, people naming a dozen shows. I am sure there were at least 20 movies I didn't see this year that I would have enjoyed very much, it's hard to figure out which 20 those would be, but still. whereas the tv renaissance is like, people talking about *the same shows* cause really outside of those shows tv is horrible, the worst it has ever been.
i did a list of my top 50 favorite tv shows this year. not that most of the choices on it wouldn't get plenty of snorts of derision, and i wouldn't even argue that many of them are anything other than effective light entertainment. but just because most people talking about the 'rv renaissance' are still afraid of most things outside HBO and AMC doesn't mean there aren't pockets of good stuff all over the dial.
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
really tho, people don't watch that much comedy compared to the seinfeld/friends era
nobody actually watches community except 20 people whiney follows on twitter
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
xp tbh all I remember about you is that you like two and a half men
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:02 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
maybe you don't realize this because you don't watch tv but tv shows come in "seasons" where they come back year after year, so the reason people talk about the same shows is because the same shows stay on tv for multiple years
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit I was zinged bad
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
seasons, gotta write that one down
y'all
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
2 1/2 men was not in my top 50 shows fwiw
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
sorry for being unnecessarily sarcastic but that was a pretty silly point. people keep talking about the same tv shows because new episodes come out with new things happening so there's new stuff to talk about.
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
"new" things "new" stuff
tv turned into sweary soap opera so slowly i never even noticed
― Ban (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
i always forget about tv show, that i watch them, i usually enjoy one episode and forget to ever watch it again. i mean there are exceptions but
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
movies are art but tv is more fun to argue abt on the internet
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
well most movies arent art really but at least a couple a year seem to manage it
movies usually only waste 2 hours of yr time
― Angles that bitch (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
tv is incapable of beauty is really the problem, some shows tell interesting stories tho like
i like long movies i do get the appeal of #sustainednarrative, also the way that you can argue w/ppl abt w/e this weeks spinning top is, did it fall or not blah blah blah
i think movies are better at showing you worlds, like 'margin call', despite the reduced time is probably more 'informative' but tv can be better at 'telling', letting oyu live inside the world it creates
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
i liked buffy
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
i voted tv but i am blind to/suspicious of cinematic beauty tbh so i think i'm just missing the thing Lamp's talking about
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think the problem w/ sustainednarrative tv is that there are usually so many writers involved that someone ends up fucking it up along the way, it's a lot easier for a movie to be perfect than a tv series
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
this is like the novels v poetry debate that kept rearing its head when i was in grad school, except novels and poetry are better than tv and movies.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
nah modern novels are about as bad as modern movies
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
or about as good
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
haha now i get why the movie partisans are all mad at you
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
i actually kind of agree that movies are theoretically better at being beautiful and perfect than tv shows but i honestly can't remember the last time i saw a movie that was actually beautiful or perfect
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
xpost lol
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
novels are tv in this analogy anyway. movies are poetry.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
what does 'modern novels are abt as bad as modern movies' mean
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
proportionally about as likely to make you feel/think something amazing
― n/a, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
which isn't really true, novels are better than movies in that sense. i don't really want to drag novels/poetry into this tbh
i liked middlemarch
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
sorry it just seemed similar to me. the thing people say about novels is that they're character driven but baggy and imperfect and poetry is about the pure beauty of language or whatever. that argument is annoying.
xp <3
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
by "people" i basically mean "this one professor"
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
novels are also stuff girls like/write, whereas poetry is the important stuff dudes like/write
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
obviously that's not actually true it's just the stuff that creeps into the argument
stuff
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
― n/a, Monday, December 12, 2011 9:49 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
yeah this is how i feel.
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
i also think its interesting the way both are/were (pre internet/vhs/whatever) communal experiences, but in different ways. tv shows and the water cooler and movies and everybody alone together in the dark. i mean i'm drawn more to that, the dark room, the whirring projector, the laughter or sobbing or gasps of the rest of the audience kindof piercing into the isolation of the cinemagoer. the way tv shows force you to stay with them to keep coming back, they pull on your time, whereas a movie burrows into your brain in a different way. its singular maybe because its a single thing. i think of that shot in texas chainsaw massacre where hes spinning around with his chainsaw or the red coat in don't look now or i'm not sure, but just the way the images burn without needing to increasingly reveal themselves.
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
man we need to get some mcluhan in here
― tumblr whine-y (dayo), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
voted movies, if you want a long and engaging story w/ a complex plot and multidimensional characters go read a book
peace
― tumblr whine-y (dayo), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
TV would be my answer for most of the reasons already mentioned and also because I really love good comedy - most of the good stuff is on TV; there is very rarely a truly funny movie out, for whatever reason. I find a lot of incidental everyday stuff funny (Peep Show, etc) which would not suit the movie format.
― kinder, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
the everyday world is also all around you though i mean
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
like right there
and also over there
eh mcluhan
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
also with tv you can pretend it's going to go on forever and conquer death etc.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
also ad breaks
― judith, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
"a couple," or 40 or 50 I saw this year
(that admittedly mostly don't play in huge swaths of America, but u know discs/downloads etc)
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
u would consider 40-50 movies from this last year "art"?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link