Does your job require you to be, well, shitty to ppl?

Even justifiably?

How does an ilxor deal w/this?

What kind of shitty? Like, my job often involves restructuring people out of a job and/or replacing them with a computer system which also will make life less pleasant for everyone left behind, customers etc.

Strategies for dealing with this are totes different from e.g. giving someone a bad appraisal (done lots) or firing them (done once) i.e. face to face horridness. This is much harder to do, but leaves less of a sense of gnawing self-loathing.

My attitude was, fuck him. What goes around comes around. He got his just rewards. He fucked me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye.

I don't know about shitty, but I have to be pretty firm with contractors that are trying to (either knowingly or not) ignore specifications for a project. Its never fun to have to tell a contractor that they have to rip out portions of a building and start over because they ignored the project specs, but I've had to do it from time to time. I mean, in my line of work you just have to know from the start that all contractors will always be like, "fuckin' architects" whenver you even step onto a jobsite.

Not shitty, but I do have to be a persistent pain in the ass to people who have committed to buying ad space and then won't follow through with info/pics. I've always tried to be a polite, genial pain in the ass though.

all of these, maybe, or maybe kinda not

'justifiably shitty' i'm lumping together where the other party thinks you're being shitty, you think you're doing the job and believe in that job

Zora, maybe some of yr instances are closer to straight out 'shitty', maybe where you're doing the job but don't believe that it's right.

Instances where you're being willfully shitty are obv not in consideration tbf, that's yr own personal choice

haha, my job involves me being nice to people and them being shitty to me.

well yeah, same as half the time!

dog latin : professional sub

shitty - no; telling people things they don't want to hear - yes

haha, my job involves me being nice to people and them being shitty to me.

I used to have a job like that. Gave me a stomach ulcer.
Now I'm sort of creeping towards a job where I tell...

people things they don't want to hear

shitty - no; telling people things they don't want to hear - yes

― sarahel, Monday, December 12, 2011 1:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

i didnt know posting on ilx was your job

haha, my job involves me being nice to people and them being shitty to me.

― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Monday, December 12, 2011 12:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

Somtimes. It pretty much never ever requires me to be shitty to people.

hopefully not? but they're probably convinced I am being shitty, nevertheless.

^^^ this

Nope, well not really... On the inside: I do have to tell my staff to do this and that, or to do said this and that better, but it's mostly constructive criticism. The odd occasion where I have to tell people off - which is highly rare - is still 'only' because they made huge mistakes and are the first to know that themselves.

On the outside/receiving end: Especially politicians get stark raving mad and irrational sometimes about what I write or what we print, but it's either because they are butthurt, but usually don't understand and are intimidated by seeing their own words in print (words look twice as tough that way). I'll point them to that.

But shitty? No. I am terrible at being shitty to people tbh.

remy otm

I get to tell ppl why they don't get housing (often incredibly shitty) or why they don't get the house they want (rarely shitty, tho they mostly disagree) or why they're getting evicted without any recourse to future housing support (p much always well merited but shitty nonetheless)

The % of ppl i deal with that get the news they want from me runs at <5% when i sold insurance on the phone my rate was higher than that ffs

I think there is a difference between being a cog in a shitty machine and a shitty cog that makes the shitty machine shittier

I guess technically my job does not require me to be shitty to ppl, so no.

The "people" i deal with are mostly <13 years old, and they think i am shitty when, like, I won't let them throw spitty paperwads at each other or act out scenes from Glee! in the middle of a class on Mesopotamia. In the most objective way possible I don't think I ever have to be shitty, or aspire to be, but goddamn some of the time they end up sulking and scowling around like I am the Gestapo.

yeah, forced shittiness has pros and cons

whereas i actually have to deal with pros and cons boom boom

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not usually but someone was once fired the day after i gave them a bad performance evaluation and i felt pretty awful about that (i kinda think the person was trying to get fired, though.)

My job's mostly the "im nice and theyre the shitty ones" variety (man, people really go spastic when you wont give them their damn internet RIGHT NAO). But in my last job we were providing satellite access for big mining and oil companies that were fucking up the PNG rainforest and stuff and I felt... really horrible about that.

(mind you I've just realised one of our current customers is the company that invented Thalidomide. Ugh)

My job does not require me to be shitty to people, but since I'm basically deciding who of two parties is correct on an issue that involves money (plus less tangible but often more upsetting issues like credibility), one of the parties is always going to think I'm being shitty. Lucky for me, I'm the woman behind the curtain in that I do the work and make the decisions but somebody else puts their name on the final determination, so nobody knows the shittiness originates with me.

I deal with it by being sure that I never forget that my decisions impact real human beings and always being thoughtful and careful about what I do. Also drinking.

xp if it makes you feel any better, the invention of Thalidomide wasn't the problem. It was the untested prescription of it to pregnant women.

yeah that final part's urgent and key, jenny- hard sometimes in face-to-face dealings though

I have to almost become an entirely new person at work. At the start of each project I have to train new hands, and always without frail three-fourths of the local hands will have zero work ethic. Each day, we must have a certain amount of progress and deadlines to meet, so always I have to tell people "Ok now we have to do this, not later, NOW And put away your cell phones, COME ON Lets's get to work!" Most people will only listen if I either yell or threaten their jobs. A lot of the guys end up thinking I'm being shitty, but it's my job and I do take it serious.

i am basically shitty to ppl 94/7 at my job

christ jacob where the hell do you work

Yeah it sounds like a bunch of slackaday teens or something.

haha, my job involves me being nice to people and them being shitty to me.

This is about 90% of my interaction with the rest of humanity right now. I ORDERD PUZZEL 3 DAY AGO WERE IS IT?! CANDA POST CANOT TRACK

frail meant to be fail
I work for pipeline construction contractors. I mostly am in charge of coating, but I always end up doing everything else.

Oooof I would not want to be working in online ordering/shipping at this time of year, no.

i was, for a time, a Manager. i had a few crappy underlings, but i don't remember any who were *deliberately* crappy. which is just as well, because i'm not that good at being shitty to ppl.

my current job barely requires me to interact with ppl at all tbh

Texting in a major problem at my work. Working around heavy equipment and very heavy pipe, you would think people would be more concerned about their lives. yet there are always grown men hiding somewhere texting, avoiding working.

haha, my job involves me being nice to people and them being shitty to me.

― dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Monday, December 12, 2011 12:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Monday, December 12, 2011 7:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

or well, no, i don't actually have a job right now so