there are like a zillion factors that make ilx what it is & the delicate engineering & interlacing of each is part of what makes ilx
otm. I think some of the things that prevent people posting are desirable, in that they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable, while otoh some of them keep out the type of posts ILX wants.
The real challenge is finding the balance. I've said before that ILX shouldn't be 4chan, but nor should it be Metafilter.
― stet, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
ilx: the best parts of 4chan and metafilter
― Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable,
I've never been on another forum!
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
metafilter: the garrison keillor of the internet
― remy bean in exile, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://assets.flavorwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/garrison-keillor.jpg
― remy bean in exile, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty.
this is so sad!
just came to 77 and hang ten if someone doesn't like your opinion on the weeknd or whatever, it's such a bummer that people are afraid to contribute!
― Z S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think the internet has created this tendency for people to always have to feel "right" or that they are offering an opinion that seems correct or whatever. people worry too much about looking like they are "wrong," they also worry too much about what other people think.
― flexidisc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
lurkers worry about sb, apparently
Lurkers come forth, y'all can't be as bad as whiney and he survived four sbullets
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the average posters will never get more than 10 sbs during his/her duration as a poster
― massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
seriously, if you're a lurker and then you bravely come forth and offer your opinions, and they are so bad and hated that you get SB'd purely because you're so wrong all the time (and not because of a combative posting style or because you're actually insane), then i salute you. that would be amazing.
― Z S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
fu i'm permanently on 12
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I think the #1 stumbling block over getting new people to post is not fear of SB but fear of standing out among noted internet personalities!
I mean I think even lurkers understand why somebody like frogsbs gets SB'd, repeatedly, just mashed into the ground, over and over
― tumblr whine-y (dayo), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
I am unexpectedly missing the ilx thread where we ask a mod how many suggest bans we have. I don't feel right that we currently inhabit a world where that's an impossibility.
― another suggestbanite (rusty flathead screwdriver), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
there was a time when I was at 11, but last I checked I was @ 9
― massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know much about frogsbs or most of the other 'victims' of the SB tbh, apart from Dom and Geir, they haven't really made much impression on me either way
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
But I suppose that's down to the threads you chose to post in
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty. Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.
― You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:21 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
ilx quality control, the secret ingredient that makes everything work!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
― Z S, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:46 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
and his name was gabneb
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
haha otm
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha, ok but that was a rare exception, no regrets
― Z S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
yup
― flexidisc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
He's back though.
do we know that for a fact?
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
You tell me: 2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."
― flexidisc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
ya I guessed the same thing but was just spectulating
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
i support letting everyone ever banned back in, sb modban or whatever, we can always ban them again right
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and hi guys. :)
― C.K. Dexter Holland, Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Permalink
http://www.garybabb.net/DramaticChipmunk.gif
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:14 (30 minutes ago)
i just really dislike the whole literally casting people out aspect of it all - if i were SB'd it would suck but i know i could definitely handle it, but it seems to hit others harder. i'm glad we've done away with permabans but i really think we ought to reconsider 30 day SBs as well, it just seems really cruel and unnecessary given the offenses most have gotten it for, and it seems to me like a temp mod-thread ban would suffice in most cases. i'd actually be a lot more OK with SB if it were like for a week instead of 30 days, i think that seems much more fair; all of us post here every damn day as it is so it's not like a week would be a slap on the risk.
as for improving the SB experience, many of us have suggested various reasonable things that could be implemented, none of which have been put into place or even seriously considered, such as a running SB count that you could check on the 'boards' page or something (to his credit forks and maybe iirc WmC have taken it upon themselves to email people who've amassed at least 40 (no, i haven't gotten one of these, lol)), or a notification when you are SB'd, and a way to see the post for which you were SB'd. another idea could be for the SB'ers to leave a comment of some kind, either to the SB'ee or to the mods, or both. i realize this would entail some more coding for the admins who i'm sure are busy as it is. i also strongly dislike the anonymity of SB, but that's kind of a personal thing i guess. it seems really cowardly to me - it seems like the person being SB'd should know who is accusing him or her of ruining the board for someone else, and why
for the most part i think ppl itt are kinda of the mind that it won't happen to them, other ppl should just get over it, which is kinda sad and pretty much counter to the way most ppl on this board ime go about thinking about other (admittedly more macro and important) issues
nothin but love
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
i still want to see these threads where ppl 'hit hard' feel like im missing all the good stuff rn
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
stfu jerk!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
lol pwn
deal w/it (-B
kev k, ime, carries challenging opinions but does it pretty well
The reason a lot of ppl think sb won't ever happen to them is because it won't. I'm a dick but i've avoided it, for instance. There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's and even if it came as a surprise to them, from any reasonable POV it shouldn't have
That's obv just a ~dude's~ theory though and we're just callous brutes telling ppl how to feel so y'know caveat emptor
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
just came to 77 and hang ten
i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
if only
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
there are no cliques on ilx anymore
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Some real great stuff on 88, before real ilx crashed--lots of bitching and complaining and zinging.
― flexidisc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
does that happen tho? (xp at lex)it's mainly people talking about their mornings or posting fb stuff
i like the idea of being able to include a message when you sb someone, feel like this could be the ultimate secret board
― Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
haha ok finally figured out who p much resigned to deems is, sup dmac
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
sb chatz
― massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
excellent concept
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Suggest ban anyone who fucks with Cary Grant's name in The Philadelphia Story.
― Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:15 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
can we plz establish a place on ILX where this actually happens, would gladly pay $10 to have the privilege
― tumblr whine-y (dayo), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
sup kk!
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
cosign
― another suggestbanite (rusty flathead screwdriver), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
sb anyone who outs ilxors on this board
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's
http://i.imgur.com/WcHBN.gif
― tumblr whine-y (dayo), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
no kidding there were some pretty disgusting things posted there especially from people I thought were respectible otherwise
― WE KILL BRONIES (Rolo Tony), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Again, I don't know what 77 is. I'm just not paying sufficient attention here.
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
x-post Oh come on now, that's just horseshit.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link