Organic/Sustainability Issues Thread

takedown of Freakonomics jackass: http://www.theatlantic.com/life/archive/2011/12/organic-can-feed-the-world/249348/

fair and balanced: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/the-great-organic-myths-why-organic-foods-are-an-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html

lol a 'takedown' that completely ignores the thing it's taking down. the 'takedown' talks about organic farming, the original article is about transportation costs and doesn't use the word 'organic' once.

shocka: organic farming can be scaled and done far away from you

lol a 'takedown' that completely ignores the thing it's taking down.

yes a bit of a mischaracterization on my part

no also on his part:

"At the top of my list are agribusiness advocates such as Kopperud (and, more recently, Steve Sexton of Freakonomics) who dismiss well-thought-out concerns about today's dysfunctional food production system with the old saw that organic farming can't save the world. They persist in repeating this as an irrefutable fact, even as one scientific study after another concludes the exact opposite: not only that organic can indeed feed nine billion human beings but that it is the only hope we have of doing so."

vs. an article that doesn't use the word organic once

Has Steve Sexton expressed this opinion about organic farming elsewhere than the article on food transportation?

not in a well-publicized web article at least, and if he did I'm not going to defend it. it's a very different subject than what we were talking about in the other thread.

Hey Noodle, are you being ironic when you say that Independent article is 'fair and balanced'? Haven't got time to go through it and give the relevant counterarguments, but the guy who wrote it is one of the (notoriously anti-green) Spiked mob. Check out his blog if you want (Bad Ecology) where he debates such interesting issues as "how the true heirs of the Nazis are green fundamentalists, proponents of organic farming and eco-extremists who share both philosophy and policies with fascists".

Yes. The key characteristic of the original Nazis was their alliegance to muesli and sprouts. Everything else followed naturally from there. NATURALLY, I say.