Arsenal- A one-man team or not?

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In the fair definition of the term, not by some bullshit 'no but song scored that time so they can't be' defence.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Yes, and John Terry is a cunt 10
Yes 4
No 3


Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

i voted

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

Where's the 'No and John Terry is cunt' option?

Billy Dods, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

they depend on rvp more than just abt any high level tream have depended on a single player since idk maybe roma and totti in 2k7

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I assumed "John Terry is a cunt" is implied in all poll options

Number None, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Well RVI isn't the best player in the team (Song). Or even the second best (Verm). You could argue he is the most important because he scores a lot but this team can score from anywhere, including full back since Santos came.

So, no. He is an excellent footballer and we are better with him in the team. But without Walcott, Ramsey and Song he wouldn't be anywhere close to his current form.

You could make a case for Vermaelan as the 1 man though, just through comparing our defensive records with him in and out of the team.

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

he is so far above the rest of yr team it's untrue

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I rate Song but come on

Number None, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

'there is a perception that his team has been unadventurous'

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

that was re villa obv

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

You guys talk like my opinion is untrue and yr different one is FACT. I would be more worried about losing Song to a big injury than RVI. But maybe that is because losing RVI to injury happens all the damn time and we have proved time and again we aren't reliant on him, no matter how good he is. Whereas you take Song and Vermaelan out the team and we lose to Blackburn and get spanked 8-2.

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

lol it just is untrue

now that villa/torres/eto'o/drogba are on the slide he is probably the best centre forward in europe

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

yr defence is very fragile w/ injuries but then vermaelen to koscielny is a much smaller dropoff than rvp to chamakh/park

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Cavani? Aguero? Higuain?

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

they are great but none of them can run an attack like rvp (a #10 by nature)

nakhchivan, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

number none otm, nakh has the rest covered

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

song is the perfect arsenal lucas, i suppose. i like the dude, but if he's your best player - or anywhere near - then scrapping for 6th is your level and you shouldn't front otherwise

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for including the third option, btw

The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

the 'no and jtiac' is indeed implied fwi

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

is the normal 'yes' to say that ebjt isn't a cunt?

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's implied tbh

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 4 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Voted option three, natch.

James, Sunday, 4 December 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link

look, this is essentially gonna be 1 "No" vote and 35 "EBJT is a cunt" votes

Julie Lagger, Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

i think i voted the undiluted 'yes' tbh lest there be accusations of a taint in the ballot

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

Voted "Yes plus EBJT is a cunt". I wouldn't have been able to live with myself had I voted otherwise.

lebateauivre, Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:27 (twelve years ago) link

y'all lack discipline imo

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Sunday, 4 December 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Never in doubt.

But three "NO"'s? wtf sandbox

lebateauivre, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

ilx sambots imo

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

i voted no cuz i'm a contrarian bastard. also because iirc rvp was still playing and scoring even when arsenal were getting humped every week, so something else must be having an influence. also because if he gets injured then 15-year-old academy sensation launchpad mcquack will slot in perfectly.

m. yeux, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

that is the best thread iirc

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

but yes u are a contrarian bastard, just because a team are one-man doens't mean they operate even with that man

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure the one-man team thesis will be put to the test at some point this season, as if Theo's 134 assists and that one goal Gervinho scored haven't disproved it already

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

and Arshavin did that thing. It was a few years back, but...

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

1 David Silva Manchester City 8
2 Juan Mata Chelsea 7
3 Samir Nasri Manchester City 6
4 Emmanuel Adebayor Tottenham Hotspur 5
James Milner Manchester City 5
Ashley Young Manchester United 5
Micah Richards Manchester City 5
Gervinho Arsenal 5
9 Mark Gower Swansea City 4
Frank Lampard Chelsea 4
Ivan Klasnic Bolton Wanderers 4
Robin Van Persie Arsenal 4
Chris Brunt West Bromwich Albion 4
Alex Song Arsenal 4
Theo Walcott Arsenal 4
Nani Manchester United 4
Yaya Touré Manchester City 4
Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 4
Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur 4
Aaron Ramsey Arsenal 4

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

one-man-team's second-best-player can't even do his nominated job any better than one-man

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

holding yr own alongside Chris Brunt and Mark Gower is nothing to sneeze at

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

1 Robin Van Persie Arsenal 14
2 Sergio Agüero Manchester City 11
3 Edin Dzeko Manchester City 10
4 Wayne Rooney Manchester United 9
Yakubu Aiyegbeni Blackburn Rovers 9
Demba Ba Newcastle United 9
7 Emmanuel Adebayor Tottenham Hotspur 7
Daniel Sturridge Chelsea 7
Mario Balotelli Manchester City 7
10 Heidar Helguson Queens Park Rangers 6
Jermain Defoe Tottenham Hotspur 6
Frank Lampard Chelsea 6
Ivan Klasnic Bolton Wanderers 6
Rafael Van der Vaart Tottenham Hotspur 6
Javier Hernández Manchester United 6
16 Darren Bent Aston Villa 5
Steve Morison Norwich City 5
Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 5
Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur 5
Shane Long West Bromwich Albion 5
21 John Terry Chelsea 4
Mikel Arteta Arsenal 4
Grant Holt Norwich City 4
Jonathan Walters Stoke City 4
Sebastian Larsson Sunderland 4
David Silva Manchester City 4
Adam Johnson Manchester City 4
Anthony Pilkington Norwich City 4
Franco Di Santo Wigan Athletic 4
Luis Suárez Liverpool 4
Danny Graham Swansea City 4

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

that's from prior to this weekend, he now has 5 assists

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

did arteta score any of those 4 for everton? cos if so.....

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

who nakh feo or rvp

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

weird absence of wolves players from both lists

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

rvp xp

kinda wonder why someone playing alongside lethal finishers like gervinho, walcott and the retired former russia #10 hasn't got even more assists tho

nakhchivan, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

because all of those natural replacements for rvp are being played on the wings ochone ochone the waste

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

maybe they could paint a big bullseye on Gervinho's forehead

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

Robin van Persie Arsenal FC 1174 14 5 61.79
Gervinho Arsenal FC 819 3 5 102.4
Marouane Chamakh Arsenal FC 114 1 0 114.0
Thomas Vermaelen Arsenal FC 542 3 1 135.5
Theo Walcott Arsenal FC 1047 2 5 149.6
Alexandre Song Arsenal FC 966 1 4 193.2
Aaron Ramsey Arsenal FC 1129 1 4 225.8
Mikel Arteta Arsenal FC 982 3 1 245.5
Tomas Rosicky Arsenal FC 290 0 1 290.0
Carl Jenkinson Arsenal FC 384 0 1 384.0
Andrey Arshavin Arsenal FC 515 1 0 515.0
Andre Santos Arsenal FC 669 1 0 669.0

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

that's actually not as bad as i thought tbh

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

Vermaelen the stand-out replacement for injury prone RVP there

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

spurs have five players more effective than theo, but nobody as good as one-man

spurs are a five-man team

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

as my brother pointed out we've now scored as many goals as RVP which makes us a 7 or 8 man team iirc

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

wolves are gonna struggle, looking at the stats

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

it really means you're an eight-man-not-as-good-as-one-good-man team

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

i'm well aware of that thank u very much

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

i wanted 2 b sure

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, maybe we shd go in for Theo in January, his prolific assist rate wd soon have us climbing the table

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

right i'm up in 6 hrs that jpg will have to serve as signing off

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeh i shd try to sleep, will count Theo crosses or something

Julie Lagger, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

i r defeated

big popppa hoy, Monday, 5 December 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link

testify beatch

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 07:48 (twelve years ago) link

i change my mind.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01759/Wojciech-Szczesny_1759942b.jpg

m. yeux, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

I hear last night RVP didn't play and Arsenal lost

ken c, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link


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