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Right then, no new ep this weekend 'coz it was turkey time for the 'mericans, but there's one in 6 days.

One bit of news is that Sci-Fi is moving the show to Sundays, still at 10pm.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Saturday, 25 November 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh and NBC might be picking the show up to run as a mid-season replacement for Studio 60, but that's just unconfirmed scuttlebutt.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Saturday, 25 November 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

is studio 60 getting moved or cancelled?

grady (grady), Saturday, 25 November 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Heroes then BG? Looks like the N in NBC is for NERD!

austin@!%!%, Saturday, 25 November 2006 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, this place sucks. I register, login, and it still wants me to write in my full name and email address. Then, when I use the one I've registered with, it tells me that name is already in use. NO SHIT SHERLOCK

austin$#!, Saturday, 25 November 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

studio 60 is not doing well.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Sunday, 26 November 2006 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

heroes blows.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 26 November 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Teeny OTM.

My weirdest TV thing this season is following "House vs. Pissed-Off Cop David Morse," but not actually watching the show, just getting the play-by-play from my wife after the episode airs.

I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 26 November 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't totally lost faith in Heroes yet. There are a couple of storylines and characters I like. But yeah, it's not anywhere near the level I'd like it to be at.

austin%@#, Sunday, 26 November 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Studio 60 got a full season order a couple weeks ago, so it's not getting cancelled/replaced this year (although I wouldn't surprised if they moved it to another night).

Alex In Baltimore, Monday, 27 November 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

How far is season 3 along? I'm waiting for the dvds.

JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

as for this week's ep, the Boxing one, some will be greatly relieved that Starbuck does not sport the ass-antlers or "Arschgeweih", if you will.

And I like the idea of One-Eyed Tigh as boxing coach/corner man.

xp: 9th ep airs this weekend.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh oh, "the boxing one" is never a good sign.

JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's the caption from IMDB:

Season 3, Episode 9: Unfinished Business
Original Air Date: 1 December 2006

A look at the events that took place during the year-long gap from the storyline in the Season Two finale. The story reveals the reasons for the rift between Kara ("Starbuck") and Lee ("Apollo").

The link in the thread-starting post has a few promo shots from the ep.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is very very strange:

http://www.usaweekend.com/06_issues/061126/images/061126cover.jpg

The people of Caprica should never wear green.

Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is that? is he wearing a jacket made of re-purposed Hefty bags?

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The cover in person is even weirder looking, if possible.

Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

that just broke my brain

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

is that what happened in the year-long gap?

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

we can only hope, but it would explain the bitterness bet/w the two

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice to see USA Weekend cramming Starbuck into a more gender appropriate setting, what with the dress and demure positioning and all.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

By nice or course I really mean "Very irritating but not surprising, unfortunately."

Also - what are ass antlers?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

tribal-looking female lower back tattoo

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

pictures like that should not be allowed while this show exists. do not fuck with my non-realities, u.s. media. nicole otm about green even though i like green, sometimes.

i like how they forgot to digitally remove the lulu lemon logo from that one pic, where her back is to camera. i aspire to such back and shoulders.

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

and by 'like' i mean 'don't like'

what i do like is the title of this thread. it is fun to say 'battlestar ______ica" - i called it 'battlestar spazlactica' in conversation yesterday, for some reason (before i'd even seen this thread!)

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

battlestar allergictodustica

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I like how the clothing line is called "Lululemon Athletica" and in based out of Vancouver, where they shoot the show.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

...?

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

by like do you mean don't like?

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

nah, don't worry about it. I just like that the company shares a similar name and city with the production it supplies.

xp

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

battlelululemonactica

i am really just half bitter b/c the clothes are super expensive and most of them are really comfortable, but also it's a kind of uniform in vancouver and i just have something against wearing yoga-wear out and about even if apparently there is some kind of magic in the yoga pants that make your ass look awesome. there is a lot of covert staring at asses in that town. i am not really a fan of the kind of covertness vancouver seems to cultivate.

anyway. it's a good place for battlestar to be filmed and my bro occasionally calls me when he's seen the actors around, which is neat.

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i get it... athletic!

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, s, that reminds me of the aut0matic vaudvi11e podcasts and i am sad you guys aren't doing them anymore

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

aw thanks. but we're doing a "real" show now... hopefully... so someday you will hear my sweet voice on the radio once more

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, right! awesome

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

scarily large version of that cover:

http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=starbuckjc7.jpg

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 07:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked tonight's ep, bloody and soap opera-y as it was

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Saturday, 2 December 2006 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be disappointed if they manage to undo all the plot developments that happened on New Caprica and take all the characters back to their pre-settlement status.

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 2 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i cried

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

and then later on tonight i recounted the whole episode to a friend. she is now convinced and is going to start the battlestar dvd journey.

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 3 December 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

excellent. let us know which ep pushes her over the edge into fandom

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Sunday, 3 December 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought it was kinda eh.

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

It was more for the people who go all soap opera over Starbuck and Apollo, which I just don't get.

Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

well, i was more affected by the whole concept of boxing out one's feelings to clear the air, and though the flashbacks were kind of cheesey, in enjoyed seeing the party and the hopefulness, or at least this idea that hope (and love) would prevail and everything would be alright, problems solved. pretty dark really.
i probably am slightly soap opera-y over starbuck and apollo though, yeah.

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I completely agree with Nicole. I like the characters and the actors, sure. But come ON! WAR! Insanely knotty ethical questions! No "safe" characters! That's who brought me to the dance, and I wants to bugai!

austin!@#$ (austin), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

but what about love?
don't you want someone to care about you?
what about love?
don't let it slip awaayayaayaay

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Damnit, why aren't there more slow-jam power ballads about insanely knotty ethical questions?

austin!@#$ (austin), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i just want less treading water and waiting around for whatever's gonna happen this season to happen

hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOPNh2z5DE

LULZ

Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

oh dear god

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7834/ejo2zf4.jpg

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

more interweb giffage:

http://img0633.paintedover.com/uploads/thumbs/0633/starbucunt_1.gif

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link

more fun

clickee for fun

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked the boxing one a great deal; I never liked Kat in any case.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 December 2006 07:29 (seventeen years ago) link

UH

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 14 December 2006 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

well. hm. ok.
i really can't deal with fanfic in any way
i can barely deal with my own 'omg i love this show' stuff. still love this show.

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 14 December 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dean stockwell is fun in any show he wanders into.

oh, but we're all fans, it seems

The Blair Witch of TV: All Hype and PR, Nest to No Content, 18 May 2006

Author: Liberty Pratt from United States

Reading some of the comments, I was struck that the observation comparing the new and downgraded Battlestar Galactica to The Blair Witch Project was very apt.

Like NBG, Blair Witch was all about the publicity campaign. Blair Witch was unwatchable cinema, so is NBG. The only difference is that Blair Witch managed to sucker a lot more people than NBG has.

That's the problem with TV shows. They have to be good to get return viewers, and NBG fails completely by that standard.

The reason? The bad look of the show. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is really that simple. When you make a show unwatchable by shaking the camera to and fro without rhyme or reason and you add to that shooting on video with a bad (and I'll guess cheap) cinematographer, you get what you deserve: a disturbingly badly made show.

It really doesn't matter how many millions SciFi puts into the promotion, or how many awards their money buys them, NBG will remain an artistic and commercial failure until they decide to upgrade the show.

Oh, and don't get me started on the pretty-faced, dead-eyes model-types that NBG tries to pass off as actors...
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kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 07:10 (seventeen years ago) link

NOT all fans, rather.

and imdb only lists the next ep as "Rapture," and airing on the 3rd sunday in January. No further info.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Take off and nuke em from orbit.
Only way to be sure.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 December 2006 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

that blair witch thing is idiotic, why did you kill my brain cells by reposting it

anyway... this ep was pretty good but so far as a whole this season has pretty much been a dud. let's hope it picks up in v3.5

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

why did you kill my brain cells by reposting it

'cuz i was compelled to spread a review entitled "Nest to No Content" as far and wide as possible.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like there's been a lot of set up this season. It's good set up, and I love back story and exposition, but I'm thinking the big pay off is coming after the break.

I am hypersensitive to wiggly camera work and I've never noticed it on BSG. Maybe I'm getting used to it, or maybe it's not as distracting. Or maybe my blinding crush on Chief and long-haired Gaeda makes me not care.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

The handheld camera is pretty standard for TV over the last coupla years. I always thought a nice touch when they do an exterior shot, where they'll do an extreme zoom into a ship and have to readjust, like it's an actual human operating an actual scope.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the wiggly camera work is what makes the space scenes so brilliant

for cryin' out loud!

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

doing sci-fi stuff with subjective camera work is something i'd been waiting for for a long time!

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Been catching up with the season and have to repeat one thing...

"Paper shortage"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Everything after they got off the planet has been surprisingly lackluster and really poorly structured. I think they needed about four more episodes of "pre-cylon-takeover" on the planet prior to introducing the insurgence, but then we wouldn't have a cliffhanger, would we?

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know; they had the resistance up & running by the very first ep(thus w/ the summer webisodes). Any more time spent on the surface would have just made it way too fucking dire.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Author: Liberty Pratt from United States

I forgot there were still embittered Dirk Benedict groupies out there.

Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

forks is on the algae.

a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Still waiting for Dirk Benedict to show up as God

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree with "fucking dire"; I felt terribly claustrophobic and nauseous on the planet as well; maybe a few episodes showing how pre-cylon life unfolded (and the characters connected or didn't) would've made for a bit more humanizing view of the cast and the planet in general.

I'm lately just unhappy with the show's tendency to want to cover up poor plotting with tons of flashbacks and "3 days ago..." story structure. It's gimmicky and doesn't really do justice to the depth of character that the show has proven itself capable of.
As a for instance, we end the boxing show with Dee glaring from the corner of the ring and 'buck and Apollo clinched and mumbling bloody nothings in each other's ear. So next episode, we'll address all that, right? No? We're gonna kill Kat? For no particular reason?
I'm not digging the sloppiness at the moment.
Still good tv, tho.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think pre-cylon life is going to be explored in the upcoming spinoff series, "Caprica"

can't relate to you naysayers, i think this season has been the strongest yet!

mikebee (bizzle), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't know about Caprica! Interesting!

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
New ep tonight. Here's a nice little interview w/ Ron Moore done back in December, before the mid-season cliffhanger.

Apparently, one of the upcoming eps will feature Chief Tyrol & his New Caprica union, which marks the first time that we've had any mention or focus of organized labor in sci-fi in, what, forever?

(the off-screen BSG teacher strike doesn't count)

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are the Saggitarons and where did they come from? This whole episode felt like I had missed something before.

Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 12 February 2007 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Saggitwhatevers are Tom Zarek's people, one of the colonies. They get mentioned way back a coupla seasons ago.

Also, check your torrents, people. There's a pretty good gag reel floating around out there, mainly from season 3 footage.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently, one of the upcoming eps will feature Chief Tyrol & his New Caprica union, which marks the first time that we've had any mention or focus of organized labor in sci-fi in, what, forever?

(the off-screen BSG teacher strike doesn't count)

-- kingfish in absentia (jdsalmo...), Today. (later)

Babylon 5 got there first unfortunately...Whole episode about a dockers strike iirc.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The prejudice against the Sagittarians seems like a logical extension of the recent crackdown on other alien races; the mooninites for example.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, there you go. I never watched B5.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 12 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

this episode was crap -- the first thirty minutes were spent being confused as to where these saggitarons came from and what they were doing on the galactica, why helo had been assigned to deal with them, where this disease came from, who this doctor guy was, etc. wtf BSG? the last 30 was spent laughing at the inflated dramatics. "Are you trying to sully the good name of MIKE ROGERS?!" Who?

mikebee (bizzle), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It was awfully afterschool specialish, true.

a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 12 February 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

if there's any justice, "Are you trying to sully the good name of MIKE ROGERS?!" will be the next meme du jour.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

this show has jumped the shark.

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

and i really hate to say it. but it clearly is completely lost in space at this point. where's the momentum? the urgency? or even the fun?

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, this season... sigh :/ but hey, i now have hopes for a crazyass 4th season!
"SCI FI Channel has reupped its series Battlestar Galactica for a fourth season and a minimum of 13 additional hours. Production will start up again this summer for a scheduled January 2008 launch. The series is produced by NBC Universal Television Studio."

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the show has developed some serious pacing problems. They could have had an entire seasons worth of stuff on nu-caprica, but they decided to wrap that up in about 3 episodes. I also think some of the mediocrity of the last couple episodes has to do with them slamming on the brakes because theyve been doing way too much way too fast.

turd burglary (turd burglary), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

> They could have had an entire seasons worth of stuff on nu-caprica

That's what I've been saying!

a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the show has developed some serious pacing problems. They could have had an entire seasons worth of stuff on nu-caprica, but they decided to wrap that up in about 3 episodes. I also think some of the mediocrity of the last couple episodes has to do with them slamming on the brakes because theyve been doing way too much way too fast.

-- turd burglary (still.bevens@(g)mail.com), Today. (later)

what have they been doing besides running in place?

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess running in place isnt criminal, but it could be more interesting is what Im trying to say.

turd burglary (turd burglary), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i think we all agree on that point.

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Not bad for only a grand.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Two grand now.

I'm about ready to give up on this show at this point. I think they had twelve episodes of story and twenty six slots to fill. The Verheiden stuff is especially bad; last night's episode was a worst example of the "character development" via torture. Beating up and/or spotlighting characters does not equal development; I don't know anything more about Chief and Cally's relationship than I did before and it didn't develop in any way... plus, it's not as if I really believed y'all were gonna kill them, so why should I give a damn about this story?

Meanwhile, a'la 'Lost', their have been so many major changes that go undiscussed for no reason. Say, don't you all have a Cylon in captivity? Remember last season, when that was good for six episodes and a near fleet riot? Why is it unremarakable now? For that matter, where did the fleet go? The only action these days is on Galactica.

Again: about ready to give up.

forksclovetofu (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Meanwhile, a'la 'Lost', their have been so many major changes that go undiscussed for no reason. Say, don't you all have a Cylon in captivity? Remember last season, when that was good for six episodes and a near fleet riot? Why is it unremarakable now?

Yeah, I wish they'd do more with this storyline rather than Cally/Chief angst.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn. Season two was so good, as well. I haven't beeen downloading these since the tiem moved; don't think I'll bother now.

stet (stet), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The first few episodes of the season were fantastic -- it's been kind of uneven since then, but it's not like it's not, like, Grey's Anatomy bad.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm patient and willing to see where they go. Remember that the end of the 2nd season had some "running in place"/character stuff. (the Black Market one, or the John Heard/chief engineer one)

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, this was shite. next week looks equally bad. more filler!

mikebee (bizzle), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link


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