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Head DC Health Inspector just said "As long as the protesters remain peaceful, there won't be any health issues that I can see."

What an interesting sentence.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:06 (nine years ago) link

peace = not littering.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:09 (nine years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/12/05/111205fa_fact_packer

this is good

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:10 (nine years ago) link

anger is a filthy, disease-ridden energy

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:10 (nine years ago) link

amber is the color of your energy

like indecision to call you and hear (your voice of treason), Monday, 28 November 2011 17:12 (nine years ago) link

hi hoos I missed this thread

the folks here successfully dealt w/an overdose, paramedics came and dude survived.

flash mob stuff in the malls on Buy Nothing Day, one arrest that seemed almost like an accident.

our deadline is Dec. 15th, city council will have to vote for the camp to stay longer.

sleeve sandbox, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:13 (nine years ago) link

I mentioned this on ILXFB, but I am still sort of discombobulated by learning via the New Yorker that a 19-year-old art student I met at the Genius Bar in 2005 and fruitlessly pursued for two months is now one of the guiding forces and on-the-ground organizers of OWS. She is described as "dark-haired and eloquent."

jaymc, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:16 (nine years ago) link

aw troo love

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:18 (nine years ago) link

I have actually always wanted to be notable enough to be profiled by a magazine, just so I could read the pithy description of my appearance and personality.

jaymc, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:21 (nine years ago) link

The NYT called me "doe-eyed and lugubrious". Wait. Nevermind. I dreamed that.

Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:29 (nine years ago) link

i'd describe you like that aimless, if i knew what lugubrious means.

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:33 (nine years ago) link

has the Occupy dude that handed Obama the note been ID'd? He looked like such an ilxor.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:33 (nine years ago) link

wait I didn't hear about that

plz say the note said "Do you like me? select one: __ yes __ no __ maybe"

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:34 (nine years ago) link

Did Obama go down there????

Being British, I have no idea what has been going on for like the past two weeks. I don't think there has even been a news story about St Pauls recently (which is bad; not liking this 'pretend it isn't happening and maybe it'll go away' non coverage.)

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:36 (nine years ago) link

good job Kingfish!

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:36 (nine years ago) link

I lol'd at "banksters"

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Did Obama go down there????

Nah, it was while he was campaigning in New Hampshire.

jaymc, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:38 (nine years ago) link

how come he could spell "impunity" and not "amendment"

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:38 (nine years ago) link

sorry I am focusing on trivialities

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:38 (nine years ago) link

I keep thinking that says "Mr. Presidetn"

superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Monday, 28 November 2011 17:39 (nine years ago) link

whoa that's great

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:40 (nine years ago) link

was so fucking proud/jealous of occupy NH for the mic check, only mad cause we were supposed to do it first, dammit

i'm on the ed board of the newspaper now? and so like i'm trying to organize a punk benefit show for us and doing proofing of loopy articles?

good thing i wasn't tired or anything.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:31 (nine years ago) link

oh also a judge just rejected Citigroup's argument & concluded that it ~did~ knowingly mislead investors over CDOs in 2008

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/judge-rakoff-rejection-of-citibank-settlement-with-sec

BIG UP THIS JUDGE

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:32 (nine years ago) link

oh i'm gonna be on al-jazeera next week?

and in a greek documentary?

lol

the ny marchers showed up last week, fucking heroic. some buddhist monks & nuns came by and cared for their feet for a couple of days.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:33 (nine years ago) link

proud of a hoos

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:35 (nine years ago) link

whoa hoos! is it another interview?

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link

hoy, latest St Pauls/Occupy LDN news story is this 'un:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/28/occupy-london-policy-vision-corporations

was down at bank of ideas yesterday, it seemed, you know, a nice space.

c sharp major, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Where was Hoos on the Newshour segment on ODC?

Bam needs to be mike-checked EVERYWHERE. Notes are a waste of time.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:37 (nine years ago) link

xp to self

and of course there was the Observer's Occupy-themed gift guide: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/gallery/2011/nov/27/christmas-present-ideas-protests#/?picture=382326416&index=0

c sharp major, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:38 (nine years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2011/11/28/occupy_earplugs_miley_cyrus_pens_eu.php

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:39 (nine years ago) link

whoa hoos! is it another interview?

― iatee, Monday, November 28, 2011 6:36 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it's a panel, me and 3 or 4 of our people talking about what we're doing, plausible impact, and the influence of the arab spring. making sure to bring some of our free egypt connections.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:48 (nine years ago) link

wow!!!

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 18:50 (nine years ago) link

"The S.E.C., of all agencies, has a duty, inherent in its statutory mission, to see that the truth emerges; and if it fails to do so, this Court must not, in the name of deference or convenience, grant judicial enforcement to the agency's contrivances."

http://www.businessinsider.com/must-read-judge-rakoff-delivers-brutal-takedown-of-both-the-sec-and-citigroup-2011-11

srsly u guys i love this man

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:56 (nine years ago) link

wow that's great

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:01 (nine years ago) link

i went to occupy LA last night for the first time in about a month. it was (we were told) the hugest turnout they'd had to date (over a thousand, easily) because mayor villaraigosa had announced his intentions to close down the plaza just after midnight. the GA sort of dissipated around 10:30pm and i went to the direct action group, where people were split off into those willing to be arrested and those who just wanted to lend support in case any shit went down. i tried carrying a sandbag from one part of the plaza to the other except it was super heavy and i'm a wimp. at about ten to midnight someone announced that the mayor released a statement saying he wasn't going to intervene until the crowd at the park thinned out a bit, but that only revved everyone up more.

i had work today so i tried leaving the plaza around 12:30am, only to find that cops were blocking off most of the intersections around the plaza and weren't letting anyone pass. sometime around 1am a police van came down 1st street to try to get to the plaza. protesters swarmed the van trying to block it and about ten minutes later i saw a stream of riot cops charge down 1st. there was some verbal confrontation but i didn't see any arrests or physical violence taking place. i managed to finally wend my way down around the south side of the park and made it to a friend's place nearby. didn't get home til 2:30am. the people i went with stayed until about 5:30am and apparently it was peaceful for the most part but i don't know what the plaza looks like at the moment. i did read about a few arrests that took place but it sounds like the cops refrained from using tear gas/bullets.

occupy LA: where even police bust-ups of protesters are super chill, brah

silvana mangano, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:14 (nine years ago) link

A revelation to set one's teeth on edge.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:50 (nine years ago) link

This is what the modern Greenspan-era Fed sees as its charter: making sure that banks are well-served and virtually guaranteed to make a profit, however sleazy their practises or reckless their actions become. The Fed has extensive regulatory powers, but the Fed board has precisely zero appetite for using them as evinced by the fact that it never does.

Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:29 (nine years ago) link

give it up guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:43 (nine years ago) link

hoos

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:12 (nine years ago) link

hey hoos

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:12 (nine years ago) link

river wolf you are back never leave and also please be doctor river wolf now

remy bean in exile, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:16 (nine years ago) link

doctorate in applied sassiness

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:23 (nine years ago) link

omg river wolf how can i help u

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:26 (nine years ago) link

occupy this knuck

~knucks~

river wolf, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:30 (nine years ago) link

did u buck?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:40 (nine years ago) link

oh knux were had

why

bcz bux

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:43 (nine years ago) link

spirit flagging 2nite

found out mpd are now literally dropping just-released convicts at the square. when i heard nypd was doing this at z park i was able to stay sort of detached about it? like "ho ho, what an insidious and clever tactic, you rapscallions of the nypd!" but this really feels like the city i love just stabbed me in the stomach.

d-esc now instituting "three strikes" policy in hopes of curbing the rising instances of theft, medical tent was ransacked over the weekend (and two of our three main medics are ready to throw in the towel), the numbers of the mentally unstable have been increasing. some month and change ago i heard the other occupation was deliberately pushing out the homeless population that was encroaching on the camp because the homeless "didn't have the full understanding of (their) reasons for occupying" and i thought it was just a blinding display of said occ's short-sightedness & privileging of political expedience at the expense of a human ethic.

now, as their camp putters along quietly if staidly, i kind of wonder why that seemed like such a bad idea.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:44 (nine years ago) link

ugh do I even bother engaging with sub-intelligent "friends" on fb/twitter saying shit like "you can't protest a business like a port, you just can't" and "why do they protest against longshoremen, who they say they support"

ffs

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:23 (nine years ago) link

thx HOOS!

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:28 (nine years ago) link

of course that only works if they actually READ the damn thing smh smh smh

tumblr whineys (Cuauhtemoc Blanco), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:39 (nine years ago) link

"@susie_c: Two #D12 confirmations: the valiant return of the sound truck, & the valiant return of Scott Olsen, on the sound truck. 3pm."

!!

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 12 December 2011 22:53 (nine years ago) link

In re: the Luntz thing from a coupla weeks ago, George Lakoff wrote a thing saying not to fall into his trap:

http://www.truth-out.org/words-dont-work/1323270276

kingfish sandbox bonaparte, Monday, 12 December 2011 23:13 (nine years ago) link

i just wrote a rhyming press release for an action outside a GOP xmas party in the style of "twas the night before christmas" that rhymed "republican staff" with "wall st gold calf."

what is my life.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 05:21 (nine years ago) link

based on the number of "where do we go from here" thinkpieces showing up online and being written by nutjobs & sent to our ~official~ accounts (including a whole series sent by a guy which begin FOCUS, OCCUPY, ITS TIME TO FOCUS) i feel like we're entering the "but have you ever ~really~ looked at the back of a dollar bill" phase

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 06:16 (nine years ago) link

CNN Headline News coverage of Occupy Ports is all why do they protest against longshoremen, who they say they support"

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

christ

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:30 (nine years ago) link

and they're not interviewing any of the wildcat ILWU guys, i suspect, who were behind it all the way.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:30 (nine years ago) link

Support the values of the strike and all, but it's going to make for some difficult conversations w our inventory people in a few weeks.

OH GNUS (Pyth), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:45 (nine years ago) link

Well, "difficult" in the sense that I'll have to not be too chipper about delivering the news that books are late.

OH GNUS (Pyth), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:45 (nine years ago) link

ha

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:46 (nine years ago) link

i mean i don't mean to uncomplicated a complicated situation

there were a lot of competing issues here and lots of union people i know in dc and through twitter were not behind the blockade in principle--i wasn't even behind it all the way--but in practice as a one-day shutdown i think it was successful and counts as a victory.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:48 (nine years ago) link

I guess I have to read more to understand this victory

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah is there a definitive 'why occupy ports' article

big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:52 (nine years ago) link

a few of my boys are on day 5 of a hunger strike for full dc congressional representation & budget autonomy for the district.

they just met with darrel issa's staff & had a productive convo--then issa, presumably having prewritten some damage control imagining he would look bad for not meeting with them, put out a press release demanding to know why the dept of the interior is letting us camp illegally on "stimulus-funded grass."

boehner's staff wouldn't send out anybody but a low-level press secretary who ran away as fast as she could & didn't answer any reporters questions.

eleanor holmes norton, my goddamn hero, just intervened and said she would facilitate a meeting between boehner's people and my boys.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 18:05 (nine years ago) link

might be time to get yr credit cards out (if u have them):

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/15/donations_to_occupy_wall_street_plummet/singleton/

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 16:36 (nine years ago) link

also, Duarte Square rally/reoccupation this afternoon at Canal St & 6th (Lou Reed lol & Titus Andronicus):

http://occupywallst.org/article/d17-reoccupy-schedule/

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 December 2011 16:57 (nine years ago) link

Near half a million still in the bank, and they're sending money to other occupations--I think they're OK for the moment. Local occs could probably do more with the money; some of them have seen malfeasance that left them nearly broke. Not that DC has heard anything about that.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Saturday, 17 December 2011 17:20 (nine years ago) link

how yr boys hunger strikes hoos?

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 17 December 2011 17:28 (nine years ago) link

Sometimes I think Lou Reed has been declared mentally incompetent and has some power of attorney person with instructions to just bring him to whatever seems relevant.

Hurting, Saturday, 17 December 2011 17:30 (nine years ago) link

Sam had an editorial published in the Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/our-hunger-strike-for-democracy-in-dc/2011/12/12/gIQAEsFzvO_story.html?wprss=rss_localopinions

my boy adrian got arrested for blocking one of the doors to congress with his wheelchair
http://s1-01.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/473815626.jpg

k bowed out at hour 177 because medical was seeing unexpected complications.

nice piece on them here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/occupy-dc-hunger-strikers-frail-but-undaunted/2011/12/15/gIQAkWX8yO_story.html

HOOS aka driver of steen, Saturday, 17 December 2011 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Meanwhile, in Portland, the World's Smallest Park has been occupied:

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388420_2617863377236_1574679480_2383035_286234221_n.jpg

kingfish sandbox bonaparte, Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:26 (nine years ago) link

what they're calling "the portland snake"


The Portland Occupation stumbled upon a tactical innovation regarding occupying public spaces. This evolution in tactics was spontaneous, and went unreported in the media...

Now, to move on to the actual application of these tactical principles (that evolved by accident rather than conscious thought), we can take the example of Shemanski park on the 3rd. We occupied the park and set up a few tents and facilities to serve food and coffee. The police soon declared an emergency closure of the park and came out in force, with full riot gear and all the weaponry. The line of riot cops soon forced us out of the park, so someone decided that we ought to march to City Hall. It was about 9 pm on a Saturday night, so City Hall was closed, but we marched there anyway, 800 of us blocking traffic the whole way. Once there, the riot cops once again lined up to disperse the crowd. However, since City Hall was closed and there was no point in staying there anyway, someone had the idea to march down to the area of town where all the clubs were, so we took off marching again. The riot cops were trailing behind us...

After marching for 3-4 hours, we eventually found ourselves a block away from the park that we’d been forced out of, so we took it again. The riot police lined up and prepared to take the park again, but the attempt was called off and the police just left. They realized that they would have to go through the standard military procedure of clearing the park inch by inch, only to have us go back out into the streets and march again while they, one more time, trailed along helplessly- their entourage functioning as a part of the march, creating an even larger disruption to traffic (the marchers covered a city block, the trailing police took up another city block, effectively doubling the size of the obstruction to traffic)...

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:23 (nine years ago) link

hey lookit i'm in greek

http://www.megatv.com/warzone/pages.asp?catid=24530&subid=2&pubid=28189187

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:58 (nine years ago) link

this article about archiving OWS is great (and namechecks my MA program!):

http://www.theawl.com/2011/12/the-struggle-for-the-occupy-wall-street-archives

silvana mangano, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:03 (nine years ago) link

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/21/tom-clancy-game-casts-99-percent-as-domestic-terrorists/

^^ new rainbow 6 game has villains that sound an awful lot like a weaponized ows

“This all started when you became bigger than the governments,” a narrator’s voice explains. “And governments became bigger than the people. That’s how the land of the free became the kingdom of the few — a few like you, Mr. Walsh. It’s time for a new balance of power. You may not answer to the government, but you will answer to us.”

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:30 (nine years ago) link

xp hey thank you so much for that archive article link

sleeve sandbox, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:57 (nine years ago) link

fwiw i've been known to play some real dogshit in terms of FPSes from time to time, and even i have no clue who still plays rainbow six games

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 22 December 2011 12:56 (nine years ago) link

lol

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:00 (nine years ago) link

http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/re-progressive-taxation-the-people-get-it/

iatee, Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:36 (nine years ago) link

can I get a book rec for anarchist thought inline with occupy and horizontal democracy? or just anarchism generally? thanks bunches.

shaane, Friday, 30 December 2011 04:15 (nine years ago) link

well kinda depends what direction you wanna come at it from--

mcglaughlin's "anarchism and authority" is a good one on broader principle stuff, david graeber's "direct action: an ethnography" is good on how those principles have been put into practice by the anti-globalization movement.

those are both great but a touch dry, though. the "spirit" of anarcho organizing & ows comes through really well in Crimethinc's book "Days of War, Nights of Love," i think. also their newest book "work" is actually a kinda sophisticated analysis of capitalism from a """"postmodern""" anarcho perspective, which i didn't really expect from them.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Proudhon?

tanuki, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:30 (nine years ago) link

haha i was just about to type "property is theft"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:32 (nine years ago) link

i was just leaning towards more recent stuff--i read a lot of proudhon & kropotkin in college and as "timeless" as it was it was also frustrating that these were mostly dudes that had died a century ago. took crimethinc to made me realize people were still talking about this stuff.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:33 (nine years ago) link

Gotcha — I'm only now getting into Proudhon, Kropotkin, Bakunin et al so I'm no expert. All this is pretty much extra-curricular so I don't have as much time to spend on it as I would like.

tanuki, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:53 (nine years ago) link

btw some friends of mine in a dc art group put up this lil "guerilla gallery" in the park today, all pieces about economic inequality

https://p.twimg.com/Ah7qcTaCMAAdz1W.jpg

park police said we can't have it there "because this is where you have GAs." not kidding.

they moved it to a diff lawn, all copasetic.

plan is for companion "galleries" to pop up throughout the city.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:56 (nine years ago) link

my homie drew is from iowa and he travelled back there for #occupycaucus, keep waiting to see a photo of him getting dragged off

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 20:39 (nine years ago) link

so

#J17 is a thing that is happening and i'm one of a few spearheads

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/12/occupy-dc-planning-major-january-demonstration/2039451

HOOS aka driver of steen, Saturday, 31 December 2011 08:36 (nine years ago) link

ilx shld be more like facebook because i want to 'like' every hoos update on this thread.

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 31 December 2011 12:24 (nine years ago) link

xposts those seem like legit recommendations. thanks you. gonna get on that for the new year.

don't know if this is inline with occupy (and its the first time i've heard of it): lawrence lessig and mark meckler held a 'conference on the constitutional convention' back in sept. i'm convinced at this point that an article 5 convention might be the only viable avenue for occupy to get its needs met. otherwise it seems occupy will be relegated to local skirmishes with little effect at the federal level. not that local activism isn't equally noble.

the url is unfortunate: http://conconcon.org/

shaane, Saturday, 31 December 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

media team is at the bar for new years and my man says "dude, search twitter for zuccotti park right now"

"what am i looking for"

"just do it"

*thumbtyping*

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.999411.1325401567!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_485/image.jpg

"..................oh. fuck."

HOOS aka driver of steen, Sunday, 1 January 2012 09:57 (nine years ago) link

happy fucking new year

HOOS aka driver of steen, Sunday, 1 January 2012 09:58 (nine years ago) link


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