As we prepare for our new lives on ILX2, this is where we say our goodbyes to those of us staying in the sandbox

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Hug marissa if you see her

― baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

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Stay strong, man.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 22 February 2007 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

Um, for want of a better way of saying it..

She never here.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 22 February 2007 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

I CAN'T EVEN SEE NU-ILX THIS SUXXXX

― It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Thursday, 22 February 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

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― If Timi Yuro would be still alive most other singers could shut up (Factory Samp, Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Damn it, that would've been so cool, too!

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive most other singers could shut up (Factory Samp, Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

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― baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

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― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

[Verse One: Coolio]
Now I've seen places and faces
And things you ain't never thought about thinkin
If you ain't peeped then you must be drinkin and smokin
Pretending that you're loc'in but you're broken, let me get you open
Now little Timmy got his diploma and little Jimmy got life
And Tamikra around the corner just took her first hit off the pipe
The other homie shot the other homie and ran off with his money
And when the other homies heard about it they thought that it was funny
But who's the dummy, cause, now you done lost the hustler
A down-ass brother done been replaced by a buster
And though I got love for ya, I know I can't trust ya
Cause my crew is rollin homers and your crew is rollin dusters
And just because of that you act like you don't like the brother no more
Uh, I guess that's just the way it goes
I ain't tryin to preach, I believe I can reach
But your mind ain't prepared, I'll see you when you get there

[Chorus]
I'll see you when you get there
If you ever get there
See you when you get there
I'll see you when you get there
If you ever get there
See you when you get there

[Verse Two: Lek Ratt - 40 Thevz]
More temptation than faith, I guess we livin for the day
I seen a man get swept off his feet, by a boy with an AK
The situation so twisted everybody gettin lifted
I'm just tryin to take care of my kids and handle my business
Cause it way too serious so you gotta pay close attention
So you don't get caught sittin' when they come and do all the gettin
Life is a big game so you gotta play it with a big heart
Some of us gotta run a little faster cause we gotta lay the struggle
I'd be a fool to surrender when I know I can be a contender
If everybody's a sinner then everybody can be a winner
No matter your rag colour, deep down we all brothers
And regardless of the time, somebody up there still love us
I'ma scuffle and struggle until I'm breathless and weak
I done strived my whole life to make it to the mountain peak
Always keep reaching sure to grab on to something
I'll be there when you get there with muted sounds bumpin

[Chorus]

[Verse Three: PS - 40 Thevz]
You need to loosen up and live a little
And if you got kids let them know how you feelin
For your own sake give a little
Oh, you don't want to hear that, you busy tryina stack
And keep up with the Joneses, takin advantage of your own
The realest homies that you've been knowing for the longest
But some ain't missing a good thing until it's gone
Could have built an empire if not for the jealousy that divides us
We prefer to keep our eyes shut till it's right
When there's something involved that we desire
So hold your head up high if your're poor and righteous
I know times seem strife, and problems seem endless
But at the times of despair we gotta put ourselves together
And if you feel you're out of the game then you need to get back in it
Cause nothing worse than a quitter
you gotta face responsibility one day, my brother
So wrap up your pity and turn it to ambition
And put your vehicle in 'drive' and stop by my side

[Chorus]

[Outro: Coolio]
As we walk down the road of our destiny
And the time comes to choose which shall it be
The wide and crooked, or the straight and narrow
We got one voice to give and one life to live
Stand up for something or lie down in your game
Listen to the song that we sing
It's up to you to make it big
I guess I'll see you when you see me

[Chorus] - to fade

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

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― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

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― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

if ppl are going to stay in the sandbox, stet and i are going to start charging you rent.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

backdated.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

with huge amounts of interest.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's interesting.

― C J (C J), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

well: thehold.net is stet's server, which i have a tiny share in. and we need it for other stuff.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Are you evicting us? :(

― C J (C J), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

You're dropping the sandbox?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

This whole nu-ILX thing was just a huge stress test to see if Grimly and Stet's server could stand up to the strain of the enormous frenzy of dog-porn downloads they'll need it for in future.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

curses. matt's got us.

You're dropping the sandbox?

er, obviously, dude. WTF would be the point of two ILXes?

the sandbox was originally meant to be a code testing ground. that was all.

then, during the ILX outage of late last year, it became a replacement ILX.

again, when JW ensured the real ILX1 got closed for good, this became the real ILX.

now the real ILX is back. once the apache issues are fixed so everyone can connect (mitya and noodle vague, for instance, can't get in at all) this will be closed down.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

to make it clear: the sandbox is not running on the henfap server that was bought with the cash raised last year. it runs on server space in the US somewhere that belongs to stet (99.9%) and myself (0.1%).

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'll give you half the money for a 22.5% share

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 22 February 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

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I'm out.

― Dunc (Mark Grout), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

bye!

― Maria :D (Maria :D), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

So this is really goodbye then, little sandboXorz...

― baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

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Andy Murray + a glass cock say "BYE"

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

again, when JW ensured the real ILX1 got closed for good, this became the real ILX.

That's like saying Muhammed Atta is the reason why Ted Kennedy is placed on a dangerous passenger list and I have to take my shoes off at the airport.

― PPlains (PPlains), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, i guess it is.

good job this isn't the real world, isn't it?

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

do you have any relatives or co-workers who like to compare things to Nazi Germany? it's strange isn't it, quite amusing i suppose.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

one of alba's colleagues (an erstwhile and unmissed colleague of mine) recently compared the stylebook's notes on capitalisation to the birth of nazi germany.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

seriously? fix new ilx and I won't care but really as everyone knows, it looks like shit!

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

yes, it's so radically different to this, isn't it?

maybe if people didn't bandy around phrases such as "looks like shit" and appreciated that, as people keep saying, nu-ILX was rushed into being and still needs some work, the coding and design team might be able to spend less time defending themselves and more time listening to what people are saying.

i have to say, though: if i was involved with the design and coding, which i'm not, i'd pay far more attention to the many posters who articulate their points reasonably than i would to the ones who say "dudes it looks like shit LOL at your unpaid toil".

just a thought, though. just a thought.

― grimly fiendish (simon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

ILX V3.0.2 looks just fine now.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

the new lines between posts are sleeker than these crappy old hrs

IMPORTANT ISSUES i kno...

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just saying, a lot of people waste a lot of time throughout the day on it, and it really doesn't make any sense to change the design when there is nothing wrong with the old design. Now if (if if if) the new boards have to look that way because of the new security measures, fine. But you know, if it ain't broke why fix it?

Like why is there so much space between posts over there? Is there a good reason for it?

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

appreciated that, as people keep saying, nu-ILX was rushed into being and still needs some work,

Maybe if it wasn't rushed into being and was only unveiled when it was really up to snuff, all that outrage wouldn't have happened?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I've got them both open at once now and there's no difference in the space between posts. Have you looked since they tweaked it?

Also THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID they're going to make it look more like the original ILX. FFS.

I think the new threads look better now fwiw.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I can articulate my displeasure with the new boards and also be grateful (which I am) at the work gone into it.

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe if it wasn't rushed into being and was only unveiled when it was really up to snuff, all that outrage wouldn't have happened?

That one I can and will blame on Jon. Fucking with old ILx when it was creaking along on its deathbed was a dick move.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I can articulate my displeasure with the new boards and also be grateful (which I am) at the work gone into it.

But doing it without looking like a dick...THAT is the real challenge.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

That one I can and will blame on Jon.

That's bullshit. You didn't have to kill the old board, regardless of how little you trust Jon or any other random hacker who might have tried to exploit the security holes in the boards.

Jon may heave been tthe impetus but you made the decision; blaming Jon basically allows you to foist unfinished code on people without taking any of the heat or responsibility for people's negative reactions to it.

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

i'll be here forever as my company blocks out old and new ilx now. see ya around again.

― thebingo (thebingo), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

yeah stet and keef have definitely not been taking any fucking heat, at all.

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I mean, dude.

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't have to kill the old board, regardless of how little you trust Jon or any other random hacker who might have tried to exploit the security holes in the boards.

Once it happens, would you really keep the board up knowing how volatile it is?

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I do, and I don't disagree with the idea that using "Jon" as shorthand for "serious security issues that could conceivably be used to delete or irreperably fuck with the entirety of the db" is a little disingenuous. Stet genuinely believed that there had been a remote privilege escalation to get admin on the db itself, which is one step away from rooting the machine. There hasn't been another backup done on old-ilx since months ago and he didn't want to risk it. I can sort of blame him for being paranoid and then I look at shit that happens in my industry and I can't blame him too much really.

At some point people should be able to actually blame something bad on Jon and not experience weird non-sequitur backlash from 75% of the posters because they've never seen a script kiddie before and think it's all just a bit of fun. (not saying you are part of that)

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

he should've foreseen what would happen.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Me personally? I don't know. Given the existence of the sandbox and people's general contentment with it, I may have. I would not have singled out a specific poster for the move, though, and I would not have accelerated the rollout of the new ILX code. Regardless, I would expect that, at a bare minimum, a vocal minority would disagree violently with whatever decision I made and a majority of the people who did agree with me or support my decisions wouldn't feel like they had to say anything; that's just the way it goes.

(xpost: Oh, don't think for a second that I don't think Jon was being harmless! He wasn't! I am, in harsher terms, making the point stated in your first sentence. People should blame Jon for being a poor-impulse-contol fuckwit rather than for the way nu-ILX looked upon rollout.)

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

(Er, horrible grammar in that xpost. Jon was being a gigantic douche for no real reason but I don't see why he should be blamed for aesthetic decisions on nu-ILX.)

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

DDT, try shift+reload, the whitespace has gone in the latest CSS.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Skipping 91 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

(i'm really not trying to stir up controversy, i had just heard a lotta rumors that those issues were in the fixing process and didn't know that the updates hadn't been implemented yet, sorry)

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

and fuck a double-dash too frankly. i would rather have name and date in a smaller font size to the message text personally.

i guess a poll is the only way to sort out even these trifles.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer having just regular old html hr's with width arguments and nothing else TBH. The white space isn't broken up properly on the new site, it's one thing old html ILX does extremely well

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

when people quote other people, the double dash is really, really, really unbelievable useful from a readability standpoint. if you look at the excelsior thread posts since nu-ILX has gone up I hope you'll see what I mean

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I genuinely believe if we want the vast majority of people to stick around and accept the new server and new code then we ought to make it as much like the old ilx in presentation/look-and-feel as is possible. there is absolutely nobody who could argue that this format here is broken; it held up for six years or whatever, it can hold up for longer.

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

i am pretty much fine with it visually, as it currently looks (tho tweaking is obv appareciated) -- it's 100% the loss of features that is keeping me from switching... and while i know that other work needs to be done, it would be nice maybe if the sandbox could keep chugging along until shit like the forced re-logging-in is changed

(the only other things on my wishlist are a) the return of html and b) the return of display names, and while i know no consensus will ever be reached on what everyone wants back, i think those are both kinda popular opinions)

― a_p (a_p), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't even notice the double dash absence on nu-ilx to be honest! quotes tend to be italic anyway so...

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

the display names thing is really, really otm because a whole mess of people signed up with screen names that are a bit esoteric, under the assumption that you'd be able to change it again a la here.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

but now we can get to know them all over again :D

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

dude u r being mad lame!

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I completely and utterly agree with this. I only bashed together the first CSs in five minutes to make it not look zany different (which it did before!)

I'm still in favour of stylesheets as much as possible though, instead of forcing it in HTML. My shitty phone browser used to grin at ILX HRs.

The signature line needs fixing too. I can't say this enough: Yes the look is anus, Yes we're fixing it asap. The new site is ont about the presentation, I probably haven't made that clear enough. That aspect of it is not "new ilx" -- it's "in the fucking way". New ILX is the fast threads, the no-breaking down, the no-security-holes and the waves of irritation.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

i know you are but...uh, how does it go again? (xpost)

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I want the double-dash thing, b/c it's an immediate visual cue that the post is done and here's the author.

also, the too-wide grey thing doesn't sit to well. i keep scrolling no matter how wide my browser is.

I don't need two big lines of too-big board links before getting to the posting box.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

also, it keeps logging me out, so that last-unread doesn't work whatsoever.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

maybe we should go to triple-dash. can't be too careful.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

code's fucking GPL jon. help out or shut the fuck up please.

Sure I'll learn whatever shit Java servlet crap they use. Are you helping??

All your suggestions otm tho.

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/9606/sky0tj1.jpg

There is nothing wrong with ILX 3.0.2

-- Ed (dal...), February 22nd, 2007 4:12 PM. (dali) (later)

― PPlains (PPlains), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

whatever happened to him, anyway? I always wanted Vince McMahon to hire the guy, give him some on-camera role like Teddy Long's asst or something.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Iron Sheik mk 2's manager. Dude could totally have a career in showbiz now :(

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Bob

Although questioned by American authorities, al-Sahaf was released, and there has been no suggestion of charging or detaining him for his role in the Saddam Hussein government. He is now living in the United Arab Emirates with his family.

When asked where he had got his information he replied, "authentic sources—many authentic sources".[4] He pointed out that, he "was a professional, doing his job".

Aw I'm glad things worked out for him!!!! <3

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

January 12 - Furloughed Iraqi Information Minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf (M.S.S.) has a brand new "gig" (that's entertainment industry lingo)- TV talking head for Abu Dhabi TV! His latest commentary on the capture of Saddam included this, uh, curious statement: "The expected trial needs evidence to be submitted. Everybody talks about war crimes and the like. But the court considers facts and evidence only." Because we all know how much M.S.S. believes in the sanctity of facts and evidence. We forget, are their troops in Baghdad yet?

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

"The midget Bush and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom-loving people everywhere."

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the project page, TOMB07? I'll help out.

― The danger of opposite of transparent aluminum foil. (goodbra), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://code.google.com/p/conversationboard/

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, TOMB07. That's bigger than I thought it'd be.

― The danger of opposite of transparent aluminum foil. (goodbra), Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

OOP

― TOMB07 (trm), Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i am choking up like the judge at ANS's body-burial-trial over the fact that sanbox is going away for reals.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 22 February 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/ElaineSupkis/Storyville.jpg

Goodbye, Storyville.

― PPlains (PPlains), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't even bothered registering at nu-ILX version 1billion yet -- my braine is too accustomed to the old style. going down with the ship, from the looks of things

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

gbx, will you decapitate me after I stick the knife into my gut?

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

it will be merciful

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Says the man who has killed things with hammers.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I just made that up from a half-remembered story, I don't know what giboyeux kills things with.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

*I* killed stuff with hammers

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

it was my friend Paul, and he killed a cat with a hammer and nail and then made it into stew

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming this was in Hastings because that really sounds like how we roll.

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 23 February 2007 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

Okay I'm gonna make the transition now, suck in the changes and remove sandbox from my fav's.

been a ride

― Ste (fuzzy), Friday, 23 February 2007 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

I love hammer stew!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 23 February 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think they could generate a lot of revenue on ILX2 just by selling a little ad space to some Lasik doctors.

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Okay I'm gonna make the transition now, suck in the changes and remove sandbox from my fav's.

been a ride

It's like Ste just got up and walked off the diamond into the cornfield.

― PPlains (PPlains), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://fm.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/brechederoland_1.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1068329483861_2003/11/10/doggy_glasses,0.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://ziggysboutique.homestead.com/files/aglasses.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/94/259800270_7c192e3981_m.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Dogs in Gogs.

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I originally started looking for snow goggles, like this
http://www.arcticwebsite.com/SnowGoggles.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

or these:
http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compass/resources/image/medium/mm040258.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.artnet.com/Images/magazine/news/artmarketwatch/artmarketwatch1-6-06-2s.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.antiquespectacles.com/images/home/05.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.unlockingthearchives.rgs.org/resources/images/s0001199.jpg

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 23 February 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

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