It's January 2007 in Iraq
It's February 2007 in Iraq...
Ned why no Iraq sandbox thread?
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Pace backs away from Bush admin's claimsleaving Tony Snow to do a little softshoe
In other news:
Iran's Ahmadinejad Says He Often Cries
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Fucking weepy-eyed war mongers.
Bush is less reticent about public displays of grief for victims of Sept. 11. During the recent events marking the fifth anniversary of the attacks, he teared up several times and at one point had to concentrate just to finish a speech. "Your heart breaks for somebody who suffered," he later told Charles Gibson of ABC News. "Tears can get contagious as far as I'm concerned."
― After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― dar1a g (dar1a g), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
(minus the whole Members Only jacket thing)
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway, i go back and forth on being sure we're going to stir up some military shit there and thinking the whole thing will fizzle. right now i kind of think both are likely; there'll be some kind of skirmishes, maybe a little bombing run, and the reaction will be so uniformly negative -- from the american public, the iranian public, and the world at large -- that the two idiot presidents will both have to back down a little. sort of like what seems to have happened in the north korean talks.
― tipsy mothra (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
Still, they shut that down, thing's gunna get even more interesting.
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Last weekend, Iran's nuclear negotiator also sounded more conciliatory when he offered to re-open the stalled Iranian-European negotiations. Iran's president has also gone out of his way to say that his country poses "no threat to Israel", despite earlier promises to "wipe Israel off the map".But it is also true that at least one of Iran's tactics is also working. For some time now, the Iranians have been trying to play America off against Europe, so as to relieve the pressure on themselves. After all, if there aren't joint American-European sanctions, then the Iranians will find it that much easier to ignore them. Thus do the "war in Iran" headlines - guaranteed to stir up fear and loathing of the American government - feed right into Iranian interests.Which matters: for we are at an unusual juncture in history. If Britain, France and Germany go along with America's "coercive diplomacy", that diplomacy might stand a slim chance of success. If they do not, then yes, the distant, but not completely unthinkable military option might begin to loom larger in the minds of politicians in both Washington and Tel Aviv. Having started an unpopular war already, having no prospect of being re-elected to anything, President Bush might decide that, in the absence of allies, there is no other way. For the first time in a long time, it really is up to Europeans to influence what comes next.
But it is also true that at least one of Iran's tactics is also working. For some time now, the Iranians have been trying to play America off against Europe, so as to relieve the pressure on themselves. After all, if there aren't joint American-European sanctions, then the Iranians will find it that much easier to ignore them. Thus do the "war in Iran" headlines - guaranteed to stir up fear and loathing of the American government - feed right into Iranian interests.
Which matters: for we are at an unusual juncture in history. If Britain, France and Germany go along with America's "coercive diplomacy", that diplomacy might stand a slim chance of success. If they do not, then yes, the distant, but not completely unthinkable military option might begin to loom larger in the minds of politicians in both Washington and Tel Aviv.
Having started an unpopular war already, having no prospect of being re-elected to anything, President Bush might decide that, in the absence of allies, there is no other way. For the first time in a long time, it really is up to Europeans to influence what comes next.
― urghonomic (gcannon), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Mr. Bush: But my focus is on making sure that this weapon is dealt with, the program is dealt with in a constructive, peaceful way. And we’ll continue to work toward achieving our common objective with other nations in the world in a peaceful way. …
Question — using faulty intelligence to provoke Iran?
Mr. Bush: No, I heard your question, and I told you, I was confident that the Quds force, a part of the Iranian government, was providing weaponry into Iraq. And to say it is provoking Iran is just a wrong way to characterize the Commander-in-Chief’s decision to do what is necessary to protect our soldiers in harm’s way. And I will continue to do so.
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
ORLY
― The RealJTMod (Real JT Mod of Team Courage), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― The PEW Research Center for Panty-Twisting (Rock Hardy), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link