like at this point 'the simpsons' is such a richly detailed world to set stories in couldnt someone find interesting ones to tell outside of w/e crappy jokeless adventures are being inflicted on the simpsons in their own familial hell????
― tumblr wights (є(٥_ ٥)э), Friday, December 30, 2011 6:26 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
i love this & think it's p much otm, & i kinda remember that south park getting good was the result of them embracing the sort of roaming-eye-around-the-village thing in which we dipped into weird strands of suburban life, rather than just played with the kids. but i think the thing that it requires is just originality & good writing, rather than reliance on guest stars & absurd premises - shit like the reclaiming-the-lemon-tree-from-shelbyville ep was a great exploration of a weird story in the daily life of a small town, & they don't do that anymore, they always end up on safari or in japan or swapping jobs with steve martin or w/e (tbh even this is lazy crit based on what it was like five years ago, i can't imagine where it's stooped to now)
― ABSTRACT: is my heart. A stranger (schlump), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
The show is said to fill the void created by the cancellation of King of the Hill, which Bob's Burgers executive producer Jim Dauterive worked on for nearly its entire run.[5]
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
BTW, I have mused about writing a Ulysses-inspired episode done in an ineluctable "Trilogy of Errors"/"Simpsons Bible Stories" modality. Debating on opening lines: "The Simpsons are going to Ireland!" or "Introibo ad altare Dei."
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
the void in the schedules or the void
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
is bob of bob's burgers supposed to be asian? I can't tell
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
whiney if you hate home movies then nobody really needs to hear your opinion on bob's burgers
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
well there is something to be said about the difficulty of searching for a new plotline when you've met everyone's love interest, mother, pet etc. etc.
the show prob should have just kept introducing new regular characters
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the premise of the show is 'most hairy-armed asian man in the world opens a burger joint' xpost
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
asians can be hairy-armed
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
maybe those are just tribal tattoos
i like home movies iirc
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
Or horrible oil burns.
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
seriously tho i have no idea what the simpsons would have to lose from making good episodes again
What if they did like a 24-style plotline that runs over a whole season; I'd watch that.
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, December 30, 2011 1:43 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
burns runs the nucleur plant
Didn't they have a 24 episode with Kief and Chloe?
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
i really don't believe anyone proposing some kind of 'experimental' direction for the simpsons would actually watch and enjoy episodes like that if they were actually done
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
xpost that was 22 minutes tho, i'm saying a whol;e season with a narrative arc like the baltimore drug television show that the tumblr whites like
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
this is a comedy show
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
there's no inherent comedy in a narrative arc
they can put it on HBO and hire disgusting simpsons slash fic artists to animate the sex scenes
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
feel like "characters team up to go retrieve the city's beloved lemon tree from a neighbouring town" testifies to the onetime originality of the show though; routinely introducing others is fine but i feel like part of what makes the early eps so good is their scale & the fact that it is v 'texture of family life' orientated, about someone getting a new substitute teacher or remembering something or having whatever small disagreement w/a neighbour, stuff that's just a conceit to map amusing 'workings of a family' dialogue onto
― ABSTRACT: is my heart. A stranger (schlump), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
they prob just need better writers
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 30 December 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
Lol some dude
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
yes. i always think of the weird switch when there was understandably suddenly no more lionel hutz & troy mcclure in the show, & suddenly the awful like "generic marketing people" guys, network execs in suits or whatever who spoke flatly & represented corporate culture. like it was a landmark moment, i can't really imagine any of the writers are as invested in the emotional side it once had.
― ABSTRACT: is my heart. A stranger (schlump), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
i bet there are lots of young writers working on the show now who grew up with it and are trying very hard to do their best and honor the show's legacy, which makes it all the more tragic. stuff like that makes me think of what a terrible thing it could be to collaborate with your heroes or be part of something that big.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
schlump, I think you're describing the Simpsons-as-sitcom era, as opposed to the Simpsons-as-cartoon death spiral.
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
like if matt groening walked into the room right now and asked any of us to fix the show, we'd all blow it, every one of us, no matter what we'd like to imagine (xpost)
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
well I think earlier writers were prob also more willing to shape characters into something new whereas today they're expected to have characters act 'in character'
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
I am Matt Groening.― Ryan LZA (Leee), Friday, December 30, 2011 9:57 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
― Ryan LZA (Leee), Friday, December 30, 2011 9:57 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
xpost
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
they need to find some new young rebels who just dont give a fuck *points at self*
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
you can't all of a sudden just make homer 25-years old that's crazy
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 30 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
I DONT HAVE TO LISTEN TO U DAD
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
we're all going to blow it.
― nuhnuhnuh, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
i'm picturing an Armageddon-type scenario where a ragtag team of average joes gets shot into space in a desperate last ditch attempt to save The Simpsons' 27th season
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
why not? i mean i havent seen a new episode in at least a year probs more but if i heard it got interesting id def watch it again
― tumblr wights (є(٥_ ٥)э), Friday, 30 December 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
anyway honoring the shows legacy is the problem you arent a good writer if yr a slave
so if youve got matty groans # tell him to hit me up ill fix shit jho can help he knows whats up
― tumblr wights (є(٥_ ٥)э), Friday, 30 December 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
prob would just alienate the weirdos who actually still watch it more than get a new audience
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
a spinoff would be a better way to do it I think, nothing to lose w/ a spinoff
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
the 14 year olds killing time btw macfarlane shows would just surf for internet porn and text regardless
― tumblr wights (є(٥_ ٥)э), Friday, 30 December 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
is it really them? in my head it's like, weird 40 year olds
― iatee, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
in any case, they may also be sexting
― nuhnuhnuh, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
― tumblr wights (є(٥_ ٥)э), Friday, December 30, 2011 4:13 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
so ready
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 30 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
wasnt there some article about how like the diehard simpson maniacs who were filling up content on snpp.com just slowly stopped?
I really think the Simpsons audience is under 21s who dont really know any better, like the same way we watched Cheers or Married With Children into their dire last seasons
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 30 December 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
did Cheers really fall off that much? i haven't seen enough reruns in way too long to remember, but i always had the sense it at least had about as good an 11th season as any show that got that far
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 30 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
snpp.com's content stopped some years back but Usenet's demise is probably to blame there, as thats's where all the content and discussion came from.
― Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it. (Trayce), Friday, 30 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.austincollege.edu/38554/kevin-bozelka/
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
oops wrong thread
― IEEE (Leee), Friday, 30 December 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
Futurama, Home Movies, The PJs...
1999-2000 was literally the last time anyone debuted a prime time animated cartoon that wasn't pure steaming diharrea.
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 31 December 2011 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
that is seriously depressing to me
also that "bart the general" clip is really amazing, everyone should be watching this
― ...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Saturday, 31 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
like all that dumb "Dead Bart" creepypasta stuff was pretty annoying but it did strike me how cool it would be if they really did make an episode that was totally surreal and uncomfortable to watch. South Park kinda crossed this line with the "You're Getting Old" episode but I'd love it if they just once did something totally inexplicable
― ...or fold laundry? (J0n Arbuckle), Saturday, 31 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
Superjail is turrible
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Saturday, 31 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
bart the general is good but not as good as Dilbert 2
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 31 December 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AUPSfgk18
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 31 December 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=021PPpmwX98
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 January 2012 07:18 (twelve years ago) link
a talking DOG?!?!?!?!
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 1 January 2012 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
its no http://i41.tinypic.com/25u0dhe.png, that's for sure
― reinheitsgebot.braunschweiger.musikladen (the lubbock babes), Sunday, 1 January 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
hey there was one episode on the other day where it was in the future and they were all the age they were supposed to be and and homer wasn't a drunk and maggie was a rock star. it was kind of cool. it could be almost ten years old though as far as know.
― NZA, Monday, 2 January 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that was the christmas one
― Mordy, Monday, 2 January 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
it was wasn't it...sometimes i forget all the details.
― NZA, Monday, 2 January 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link