we need more videos of black college kids rapping bon iver songs
― max max max max, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
no we don't need anything "more" bon iver
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's pretty hilarious when kanye has charlie wilson dub backup vocals all over bon iver's parts on his songs to make it sound as if he's 'soulful'
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
why do black ppl never want to bon iver?
i couldnt find it but there exists a p rad 'rap' version of bon jovi's wanted dead or alive somewhere on youtube i know it oh im sure of it
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Can we put together a sliding scale of how racist ironic comedy covers are? I'm trying to figure out if that Gourds' Snoop cover is more or less racist than Karmin.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
there's just this really weird fuckin dynamic to me tho in white dudes on the internet doing the finger-wag about anybody doing a "funny" rap cover. (to the best of my knowledge everybody on this thread calling out texts from bennett is a white male.) it's like white rap heads seem to think that rap = the whole of the black experience in America, and therefore doing a piss-take on a rap song is racist, which is a weird thing to thing - rap's a black art form but it doesn't stand in for blackness necessarily, right? (can, in the mouths of racists, obviously, but to accept that is kind of to accept a questionable premise.) and to conflate the two at 100% seems bizarre to me. I don't contest that like 100% of "hilarious" rap covers suck ass, that's kinda clearly true, but I'm with iatee, it's not necessarily racism that's at work there, and I think there's a weird sort of...racism? at work in insisting that if somebody does a dumb rap cover, they're being racist. which isn't to deny that there are doubtless a trillion nakedly racist "hilarious" rap covers, I'm sure there are & fuck 'em all, but at some point ppl are going to have to accept that rap is the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of music on the planet, and that means that people are going to cover it in all kindsa ways, and find shit funny about it.
tl;dr some white rap heads sound like caricature "that's not funny!" angry feminists about this kinda thing and I say this as a caricature angry feminist
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like there's a weird assumption that EVERYONE calling these things wack/unfunny/etc. is agreeing they're race crimes, which is really not the case.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
er hate crimes
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
of course the very reason you can't do a 'sliding scale' of Racism is that it's a superword that once introduced into a conversation can't be qualified or blunted the slightest bit
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
aerosmith playing white devil's advocate here
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
This is the part when I get confused and wonder if ships got the sarcasm in my post or not, it was really just a roundabout way of reminding everyone of "hilarious" bluegrass covers of rap songs from jambands.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
well i got that it was not a totally serious post yeah, but the way you phrased it got me thinking
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
aerosmith's next post is going to be defending "pimps & hos" parties in frathouses
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
"i mean look, pimps and hos are basically the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of sex work on the planet"
cool
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
those are def the exact same thing
whiney a little defensive about being the white guy who likes to think himself permanently exempt
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
exactly the same
i think when i was a little teenage shithead i did have a laugh at the 'soothing white announcer voice' spoken word version of "Gin & Juice" but by the time the Gourds one was floating around Napster being credited to Phish and a hundred other bands i was old enough to be like OK enough of this kind of thing.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
for the record guys me and aerosmith paid whiney $5 (plus tax) to come itt just to make our pov look better by contrast
― iatee, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
but at some point ppl are going to have to accept that rap is the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of music on the planet
well, exactly, which is why predicating a joke on ITS WHITE PPL... AND THEYRE RAPPING! is really p racist and also stupid, like rap is hardly this outrageous and foreign thing to point and gawk at
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
guys like whiney have been pissed forever that rap is literally the most popular music in the history of the world though - it ruins shit for them and they're gonna stay mad
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
the 'soothing white announcer voice' spoken word version of "Gin & Juice"
Dude, that's the version on the legendary J0hn & D4ria wedding mix CD-R thread on 77 and no one knew what it was!
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
xpost, you got me confused with deej
like i think the white girls with acoustic guitars covers arent actually racist, if anything i kinda love them for their strange sincerity but the whole autotune the news OMG CRUNK HAHAHA shit is just nagl
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
this is well-put
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
remember when that one indie white musician (bon iver? will something?) covered i gotta feeling
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
haha i think i only vaguely skimmed that thread once...i'm pretty sure i heard it for the first time in like 1997 or something though
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
IMHO it's p much ok to assume all lol wites rapping covers are racist otherwise wed have to engage w/each of them individually
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
indie rock dropped the ball with no jewish indie all-star version of "i gotta feeling"
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
cooper otm
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v13oODBnRUU
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i just wanted this in here to have u dudes read the comments
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
coop otm, this is a situation where i feel pretty comfortable painting with a broad brush
i mean part of what is at play here is that acoustic or whatever covers of rap songs are such a heinous crime against art that "racism" is one of very few concepts that really approaches how truly horrendous they are
― max max max max, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
haha totally
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
um that seems slightly anti-rap...?
― ~connecticut~ (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
i basically hate rap
― max max max max, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
I think these covers veer towards racist when they go to great lengths to make it clear that they've "rescued" these "secretly great songs" from "rap crap" and put them to "real music". Or maybe thats just rockism.
― shakur rump (I left my login in El Sandboxo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
haha otm
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
I came in to find out why "Texts from Bennett" was churning up so much dust in New Answers. I should have known the answer was simple: clusterfuck.
― Aimless, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Jeff Tweedy iirc
― jaymc, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
that was supposed to be a lacuna
― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
texts from clusterfuck
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
like obv the underlying production of rap resists being able to be co-opted by 'musicianly' means (and obv there has been a long long tradition of of disregarding hip hop as not real music bcz of lack of melody or instruments or etc) but to say that ALL acoustic covers of rap songs are inherently evil + unforgivable crimes against art (even if every single one up until now has in fact been; a dubious claim anyways) is to do it a real disservice and to deny one of the most amazing things about rap, which is the pop music universality of it that aero was talking about in his previous post
― ~connecticut~ (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
(thank Ned for no SB)
ll cool j doing "mama said knock you out" on mtv unplugged was so racist
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
mtv unplugged is indeed a shameful reminder of our racist past
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
reconstruction era mtv
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
real talk one of the first rap albums i ever bought was Arrested Development Unplugged. that's so corny i'm almost kind of proud of it.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
A GAME OF HORSESHOES
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
sry I am racist