2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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guys, that Perry gaffe is literally a repeat of W, but keep keeping yr mind off Obama's worse-than-Bush police-state shit.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:24 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah lots of Obama apologists on here. He's a scumbag!

billy goat, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Morbius: what ever will you do if (or maybe when) Obama loses? Attacking Romney just won't be as piercingly edgy.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

what makes you think he's going to stop bitching about Obama

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I watched part of the Wallace interview, too and what I eventually took away from it was that it wasn't so much that I liked Romney as I found him marginally less annoying than the other candidates. The transparently obvious pandering to idiots that is so common is painful to watch in Romney but the fact that he looks kind of half-hearted doing it, while it enrages the base, gives me small comfort, I guess.

M. White, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

so i see sully's a paultard now. which makes perfect sense, really.

clay, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

I have v. little love for ron paul, but ron paul >>> people who use the term "paultard" imo

undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

like, if Ron Paul has jock itch, his pained scratchings at his undersac are still wittier than affixing "tard" to a dude's last name

undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 03:37 (twelve years ago) link

fair enough. not trying to be witty at all, just a common dumb thing people say but i obviously wasn't thinking it through. anyways sorry!

clay, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 05:57 (twelve years ago) link

I have v. little love for ron paul, but ron paul >>> people who use the term "paultard" imo

― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

OTM

river wolf, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Andy Borowitz @BorowitzReport -- Romney campaign unveils new slogan: "You're Out of Other Options"

lol

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Uh, love my dog.

Nicole, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

more Gingrich lolz

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

Uh, love my dog.

― Nicole, Wednesday, December 21, 2011 6:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

times infinity

max max max max, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

Love this poat so much I want to strap it to the top of my car.

Nicole, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Uh," he said. "Love my dog."

max max max max, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

Cain speaks to the NRO. Remember him?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link

“I’m not bitter but I am disappointed and angry at times,” he says. “That’s different from being bitter.”

Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 December 2011 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

NRO can afford to be kind and gentle with Cain now that he's irrelevant. No mention of his gaffes, like his not knowing that China has nuclear weapons.

Aimless, Thursday, 22 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

that whole interview is kinda sad imo

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

This is what happens when someone who has never won an election to public office at any level runs for president. He'd never been scrutinized in this way before and he chose to be picked apart on a national stage in front of the entire country. His naivete was breathtaking and his fall was inevitable. The only thing strange about the entire episode was that he succeeded to the extent he did.

btw, he still has never won a single election. not even a primary contest.

Aimless, Thursday, 22 December 2011 06:51 (twelve years ago) link

once a fake pizzaman, always a fake pizzaman

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link

also: he didn't know anything about any major issues.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 22 December 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

9!9!9!

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 22 December 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/is-romney-stronger-than-he-appears.html

We've kicked around variations of this before, but if the White House is counting on Romney's time at Bain as their "devastating" ace in the hole (based on an election that took place 18 years ago), wow.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Hahah lord, they're not dumb enough to make that the centerpiece.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Meantime:

http://www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/game-over-scans-of-over-50-ron-paul.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

weird how much this is dogging Paul lately, I was kinda under the impression everybody that cared already knew about this stuff

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of his fans have claimed that the newsletters don't exist, or are blown out of proportion -- i don't think (or haven't seen) a lot of hard evidence + quotes (until now of course)

Mordy, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

alfred linked to this atlantic piece from a kinda-sorta-paul fan who sorts through the wreckage of the newsletters

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/grappling-with-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters/250206/

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

between his defense of ron paul's racist newsletter, his long bizarre promotion of the bell curve, etc, sullivan is pretty much out as a racist imho (not to mention his fascination with israel/neocon/aipac conspiracy theories)

Mordy, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

The comments on Mr Destructo's blog are genuinely lol-worthy

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

between his defense of ron paul's racist newsletter, his long bizarre promotion of the bell curve, etc, sullivan is pretty much out as a racist imho

Interesting.

C.K. Dexter Holland, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

TNC's response.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

sullivan is trying this tact of saying "well, maybe he's racist, but who running for the republican nomination isn't?" of course, the answer to that is: "if it's a party full of racist ppl maybe refuse to endorse any of them?"

Mordy, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Newsletters or no newsletters, it should be common sense to anyone who's paid any attention to Paul that he's a bit of a crank and doesn't belong anywhere near the Oval Office.

o. nate, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Nate otm. I have decided from my position of white, male privilege to overlook the tedious culture-war racism and homophobia and just focus on the fact that Mr Avuncular is also an out-and-out crank and should by no means be anywhere near the levers of power.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

I do find Sullivan's endorsement of Paul kind of odd, but he seems to be offering it with the disclaimer that he really supports Obama and he's just endorsing Paul because he would spark a useful conversation within the conservative movement.

o. nate, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I think he is genuinely interested in re-invigorating the libertarian side of the Republican party, particularly in the non-evangelical side but I'm not really sure that Paul, everything considered, is a great standard-bearer for it looking forward.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

If you're going to argue against tyrannical state interference in society, I think you're going to have to be a LOT more strident in condemning racism and homophobia if you want to capture the future (i.e. Millenials) and I have yet to hear any cogent arguments from states' rights libertarians which either acknowledge that local tyranny can be every bit as onerous as national tyranny or prescribe anything both effective and possibly progressive as the Brown vs Board and Civil Rights Acts of the 60's, all of which were decried as horribly intrusive on the fringe right.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

The quintessential spokesman for the Libertarian side of the Republican Party was Barry Goldwater, who cast many a vote for "state's rights" when that was clearly a position in favor of segregation and Jim Crow. Unlike Paul, he later made conciliatory remarks about his sad record against civil rights. Paul just dodges around it.

Aimless, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

Like, I'm the kind of dick who would drop a gotcha question on Paul wrt Arpaio as much to see how he's dealt with the contradiction ideologically/politically as to trip him up.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Goldwater was also forthcoming about the silliness of DADT.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

I guess my beef with that wing is the basically unexamined notion that the best democracy is local democracy. I think that may be 18th century romanticism rearing up or some misplaced idolatry of Jefferson or whomever. Surely a corollary might be that local tyranny is about as bad as it gets, too.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

There was that Loyalist during the Revolution who said, "Better to live under one tyrant a thousand miles away, than a thousand tyrants one mile away."

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not a racist but I think Ron Paul has some interesting ideas for cutting down on government. At least he's not some Big Government photocopy, rubber-stamping wars like Obama and Congless. But I am concerned about these racist allegations. I don't think I would vote for him.

billy goat, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

If you put that corollary to a modern libertarian, they'd probably answer that given an adequate number of guns in the hands of patriots, no local tyranny would stand for long, which is pure moonshine, but still they would believe it.

Aimless, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

most patriots can only hold two guns in their hands at a time and be useful

OH NOES, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not a racist but

always a good way to start your posts

aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

they'd probably answer that given an adequate number of guns in the hands of patriots, no local tyranny would stand for long

This is (a) sweetly and foolishly romantic in manly way or (b) failing to notice that in that case, they are the tyranny.

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Lol, Shakey...

M. White, Thursday, 22 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link


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