she is a legit discussion topic iirc
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
also she is not a cup of tea type of gal she is a shot of rotgut type of gal imo
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
But we've had that discussion a million times already! I am bored too but can't think of anyone to post. ;_; Sad.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
btw i can't view pics so it's all acadeemc
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
girl from tv3 football coverage is ws but i think i'll keep that one to myself tbh
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
Problem is, there are very many people who I think are v v pretty, such as the above mentioned Andrej Pejic
http://www.lustralboy.com/images/uploads/lboctap6.jpg
and ppl like Bastien Bonizec who is super hott to ridiculous extremes
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4284450850_aca70e5199_o.jpg
and George Allen who is also off the scale physically amazing looking in every way
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk34djNTCa1qg02rso1_500.gif
But I don't want to smash any of them. I just want to look at them. Like, the aesthetics of them is just enough. I can't even imagine speaking to them, let alone any kind of sexual interaction, it would just be too distracting. I enjoy looking at perfection, but I'm not actually ~attracted~ to perfection.
I don't know if this is because, literally, it is the flaws that make someone beautiful as opposed to merely pretty, to me - or if it's a question of expectations. As a person who is not actually that conventionally attractive to start with, the kind of people that I have got involved with tend towards the "clever but quite odd looking" in the way of TY and RDJ so maybe I've been conditioned to fancy clever but slightly odd looking men bcuz that is where my sexing has usually come from? (Or the other way around, that I expect men with TY or RDJ type looks as opposed to male model looks are more likely to settle for me?) But this gets into that weird thing about looks-based expectations that causes arguments and angst on the OKC thread and the Gurl thread so I'm just going to look at the pretty male models. Pretty.
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
Andrej is so like his dad
http://www.bluekipper.com/onthisdayimages/1295947744-mike_pejic.jpg
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
I know this is the thread for keeping it positive and all, but PLEASE get that hideous creature off the smashing thread, massive buzz-kill, ugh.
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― www.myislamicdream.com (step hen faps), Thursday, 15 December 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
relevant to my interests:http://www.esquire.com/women/me-in-my-place/ari-graynor-pics-0111?click=top
http://cdn02.cdn.egotastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/14/ari-graynor-esquire-me-in-my-place-10-580x430.jpghttp://cdn03.cdn.egotastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/14/ari-graynor-esquire-me-in-my-place-15-580x289.jpg
― milo z, Friday, 16 December 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
schwinn(g)
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
she is breathtakingly hot
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
holy
― www.myislamicdream.com (step hen faps), Friday, 16 December 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
HELOOOOOOOO NURSE
― Mr Jimmy Mod, Friday, 16 December 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:06 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
^^^actual lols
my 23 yr old self just spurted all over the county of limerick
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 16 December 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
This thread and others like it are just perpetual Sociological Images 101 in terms of the *presentation* of female sexual attractiveness vs male sexual attractiveness.
Genuinely not criticising any individuals on this thread, but just find it really strange and perplexing. Can anyone find me the equivalent of heartthrob dudes, straddling bicycles in their skivvies? I mean, seriously, not that "man pin-ups" calendar thing. Even heartthrobs I don't find attractive, but maybe people like Mark Ruffalo or Ryan Gosling that the ladies of ILX find attractive? I am just wondering what the equivalent is, and how they are represented.
Stating again for the record, I'm not trolling and apologies in advance if I offend any men with this line of questioning, I am just interested in this. The presentation of heartthrob men in their underwear. What's it look like?
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
freddie ljungberg ad that my gf uses as a bookmark!
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/hasselhoff-puppies.jpg
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link
That must make quite an indentation on the page (xp)
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link
Well, share! x-post
The closest I can think of is...
I have an academic friend who every year gets shipped in a "men of the French Rugby team" calendar which portrays sportsmen in a very "beautiful boys" kind of way, strategically naked, romping with horses and sports equipment - but it is photographed in a very "homoerotic" gaze - i.e. we have endless arguments about whether it's designed for women or gay men.
When I get out of this meeting I'll try and find some photos she's posted of it.
Great example, horseshoe!
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link
looking up on phone is unwieldy, looking up on work pc isn't gonna hapoen, think it was ysl campaign tho
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
Calvin Klein, maybe?
http://m.blog.hu/ou/ourfashion/image/bianka/Liz8_calvinkle.jpg
I am not familiar with these people, is this the right man?
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link
That's him. You said on another thread something about some photograph of some SEXY HUNK that it was a male idea of what an attractive man was and I thought, no, that's like 1000% wrong!
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
Actually he appears to have done 40,000 pants ads so what would I know?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vJbEFgWRC5M/S9nyY364rgI/AAAAAAAAA8E/2YOoIhTC4FI/s1600/becks.jpg
I'm still not feeling the smash, TBH, but it's interesting imagery.
Damn. Anyway, meeting!
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
the one i'm talking bout he's sitting thighs akimbo in boxers, ie v much a 'lads mag' for girls- or, as you say, maybe other guys
― bloating forecast: ruff swells (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
The underwear or the sportsmen?
― Y.O. Mini (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
Genuinely not criticising any individuals on this thread, but just find it really strange and perplexing. Can anyone find me the equivalent of heartthrob dudes, straddling bicycles in their skivvies?― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, December 16, 2011 5:02 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
You posted a picture of a man with his legs spread, biting his shirt as he reveals his abdomen.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
Indeed, an androgynous boy/man but still a man
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
Think Deems is on to something - is this visual vocabulary derived from "lads mag" poses (legs akimbo in knickers)? Is there a different vocabulary for "what" "women" "want" or is it just the same thing transposed?
Revealing the abdomen is definitely a ~thing~ - not just for me, but loads of women...
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/2388946/Thom+Yorke+ombligooo.jpg
^^^^^^total WS and also used as the splash image for lots of female oriented fan sites so this is not just a *me* thing, don't know if it's "look at my sixpack I am fit" or if it's "I am revealing my vulnerable areas"
The biting the shirt thing also appears to be a ~thing~ - it's not just Ryan Gosling (though, W not S) thing, but it's a repeated thing in the vocabulary of presentation of objects of female desire, but I think that's a universal thing, because oral pleasure is definitely a thing for all genders - whether it's ladies licking ice cream or men chewing at their clothing with desire.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Kozz3X37AII/TGWiIN-0wWI/AAAAAAAABSs/lZ0_IMOrV08/s1600/1139583810_DAlessiaRyanGosling.jpg
I don't think that Andrej Peljic is a good example for anything because he's one of those people whose entire career is based on shaking up or transposing or dismantling the visual vocabulary of gender and Style but here he is with very female styled presenation, yet that "here is my abdomen" of male sexual presentation. Which I find fascinating.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/278071/ANDREJ-PEJIC-DOSSIER.jpg
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
I like people just kind of dressed in regular clothes best
― april wowak, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
How about biting regular clothes?
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
FT, there is such a thing as over-thinking things.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
Thom Yorke is a persistent abdomen exposer. It's really quite endearing.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/12936693/Thom+Yorke+yhellothar.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/28433819/Thom+Yorke++Sunglasses.jpg
There's more recent ones, too, but I can't be arsed to dig through 40,000 fan sites to find them right now.
Do wonder how much of Ryan Gosling's appeal is down to *his* persistent abdomen exposing. Watching fan dialogue about him, it's not even the abdomen but those ~lines~ that extend from hip to groin. Which seem to drive many women (OK, Jezebel commenters and ladies in my tweetstream) into a froth of sexual excitation.
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
FT, there is such a thing as over-thinking things.― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (4 minutes ago)
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:04 (4 minutes ago)
Um, have you taken a look at where you ~are~? This is ILX. We have 400 post threads about whether to put 1 or 2 spaces after a fullstop. And you think questioning the pervasive and all-surrounding depictions of one of human beings' most fundamental activities is *overthinking*?
RMDE!
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
It's not but I guess this thread has a standing history of being mostly pictures and people often get up in arms when it gets too wordy. More pics, less talk was the sort of arrangement we had previously. There are tons of other threads where this sort of thing can and should be discussed.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
ps - Gosling is overrated in the attractiveness dept imo. I just don't really get the appeal.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
^^ otm xp
― lebateauivre, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
*perplexed face*
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/392283/Thom+Yorke.jpg
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyv8d3FXtA1qa1iiqo1_500.jpg
― elks thunder, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
anyway. where were we.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dDPWwJABtuk/TtxnZNPljWI/AAAAAAAANhU/Gw0mXSNja5s/s1600/Denise%2BMilani%2B01.jpg
― elks thunder, Friday, 16 December 2011 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^ would not smash. He looks bizarre, and totally unlike himself. That photo has always freaked me out.
(sorry, too much talking again)
HAHAHAHAHAH x-post
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link
TY does look really weird there. It's over photoshopped, right?
FT I wasn't trying to be mean or bitchy before. I just wanted you to know why ppl might be giving you a hard time. A little talk is fine but the big discussions stuff is generally better elsewhere, I think?
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/cmi-niche/assets/pictures/4136/content_Michael-Pitt.jpg?1289857992
I think he's one of those people who looks better in action than still pics but I love Michael Pitt even tho in most real life pics he looks pretty gross and sort of like he smells. He's pretty beautiful imo.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
ahhh huge sorry
He looks weird because they've photoshopped out all the things that make him look distinctive - his freckles, his ptosis, his sticky out ears, his lizard cheekbones. I think he looks so much better like this (apart from the bad hair)
http://www.radiox.ru/pics/r/tomx/ty063.jpg
But then again, I think that *this* woman is so beautiful and amazing looking and sexy *because* of her freckles, and ppl were being nasty about them upthread (makes me feel self conscious TBH)
http://guy.com/a/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Cintia-Dicker-1.jpg
I have no idea how that Michael Pitt dude is, but he is ~pretty~ - then again, I don't have a problem with dudes looking like they smell, as we all know.
http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Michael_Pitt-3.jpg
― Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
That woman's freckles are amazing.
The first thing I remember seeing Pitt in was Hedwig and the Angry Inch but he's been in a bunch of movies and is one of the main people on Boardwalk Empire.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
I love Michael Pitt even tho in most real life pics he looks pretty gross and sort of like he smells. He's pretty beautiful imo.
this is AGL, cf daniel craig, sometimes
― Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
It can be and the pic FT posted is hottt but he's lefit shown up to some premiers in disgusting stained t shirts looking like he really hasn't showered in months. I think he may have had some errr problems for a time. It was an unhealthy sort of gross look not a hot one.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
Don't understand how anyone could object to freckles tbh
― Derek Pringles (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 16 December 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link