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Michael : I think the mandible is probably still there, along with the rest of the skellington. I might go and get it (except not now, because it is dark).

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I think dog is the way to go, here. I missed the profile jpg with the mountainous back teeth, way up there -- dog molars always look like mini-mountain ranges to me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Housemate: What are you doing?

Me: I'm looking at Cody's teeth to see if they match up with the ones in a skull my internet friend found.

Housemate: I... see.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just reading a website about animal skulls. It says badgers have a wrap-around jaw hinge which means the lower mandible cannot be removed from the rest of the skull.

So, not badger then.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

It def looks quite dog like.

My dog is a German Wirehaired Pointer, who looks rather like yhis :

http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/BreederDirectory/images/gwhp-bareve.jpg

He's quite large - bigger than a Labrador, anyway - but this skull is larger than his head. (I just had a comedy five minutes where I tried to hold the skull next to my dog's head for comparison, and dog thought I had brought him a tasty bony treat so there was some enthusiastic slobbering and headbutting going on as I tried to wrestle it away from him again). (He was doing the slobbering and headbutting, not me, you understand).

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The skull's teeth are far more widely-spaced than my dog's, too.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I think, too. My dog's teeth are pretty tight-packed in the front.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Big cat? Where do you live?

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oxfordshire, UK.

There have been quite a few sightings of animals which are purportedly big cats.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.scottishbigcats.co.uk/engnews318.htm

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

If I am not mistaken there's some kind of institution of higher learning somewhere in your vicinity. The name escapes me, unfortunately, but perhaps you could enquire there as to the species of beast this skull belongs to. Also, quit teasing you dog with crania and give him a proper treat for his part, however small, in helping you unravel what must be one of the most fascinating mysteries in Oxfordshire animal history. I fear for your sanity, however, if it turns out this is the skull of an elusive English Chickenbear.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If it turns out to be the elusive Chickenbear, I shall die of happiness.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno about the cat thing, here's a cougar skull and it seems fundamentally different:

http://www.headhuntertaxidermy.com/sell_skull/sell_skull_lion2b_side.JPG

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Then where would your dog be?

xpost

― Michael White (Miguelito), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes Laurel, I have my doubts about the cat thing. This skull definitely has a snout, and cats down have those.

(My dog would feast on my carcass, then either die of a broken heart that I had left him, or saunter casually around to a neighbour's house and steal their dinner too. I suspect the latter).

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

cats down? I mean cats don't.

Stupid fingers.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Cats down!? You mean like an exotic duvet filler?

― Michael White (Miguelito), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

That wouldn't work. All that wriggling about and miaowing all night long!

The cats wouldn't get a wink of sleep.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

If it's round Oxfordshire, it could be the fabled monkeydog - a half-monkey half-dog creature that roamed the fields around Aston Tirrold when I was young, creating fear in all those who would go out after dark and cause mischief. No-one, of course, ever saw it, but all the kdis knew it was there, and was sure that if it set it's glowing red eyes upon you, you'd be mincemeat before you could say urban legend.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim Henman lives in Aston Tirrold.

Say. no. more.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think badger isn't too far off - the one you linked to first wasn't a European/Eurasian badger, I believe. They can get bigger than you'd expect, too (more than a meter in length) :

http://www.wiltshireheritage.org.uk/uploads/images/159/l_1badger_skull.JPG

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

vs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/Paronomasiac/Skull_05.jpg

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a badger's sett (of three generations, all living together) in my garden, Stan - I frequently see them lumbering about at night, scooping great divots of turf out of my lawns and eating their way around my vegetable garden. I once found a dead grandad-badger lying near the sett (we had to get the RSPCA to come and remove him, as they are a protected species and you aren't allowed to touch them), and he was really very big indeed.

This skeleton was larger than that though. More than Great Dane size, I guess.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Definitely had longer legs than a badger, too.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I was gonna say, merkin badgers be differing.

― Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Can dogs and badgers, er, if they like each other very much, well, could they have, you know?

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Make a bog? or a dadger?

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

(Dodger Dogger Baddog Bodger Bagine Candger ?)

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds like the Shipping Forecast.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

once boiled the skin and flesh off a skull, for a science project

that one looks like a dog

also: friend came back from Benin, where he was studying voodoo (anthropologically), brought with him chicken bones dipped in blood. given as gifts

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/3/Anatomy/dog_skulls.htm

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, it's a shame it's all about ipods and X-boxes these days. I yearn for the simpler times when kids were happy to be given monkey skulls and blood-dipped chicken bones.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Heeeey, chihuahuas look ugly and evil even BENEATH the skin!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

That chihuahua looks quite smiley.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I reckon either a collie or a great dane, based on those skulls.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe German Shepherd, too.

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I know a couple of humans who have a pug skull :-/

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://pug-pictures.com/PoseyLou.jpg

― C J (C J), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe it's from a big broad-headed dog, like a newfie or a rottie. Or a bulldog! Poor baby dog.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

No—not squash-faced enough for a bulldog. Hey—what about a boar? Do their tusks look like dog canines?

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I must vote Chickenbear as well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/36/79217274_45cb474f9d_m.jpg

boar skull

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

No, they have tusks that stick out at an angle on the top jaw as well as the bottom. Shoot.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://paleodirect.com/images/textimages/boarskullanteriorlm41-005.jpg

as you can see here.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I still wonder if those teeth are too spread-out to be your average dog's.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.amonline.net.au/mammals/images/gallery/400/dog_skull_10.jpg

ventral view of wolf skull. Some differences there.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's yr duty to make a silly artskool Jan Svankmajer fakey sto motion flick with your covetable and curious find.

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm, i'm thinking of uk location and the fact you found it in the woods, it could be a fox skull

― Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Fox is probably about the right size, but the images of fox skulls I see on google dont have the forward thrusting teeth. I think it's a smallish bulldog type pup. Maybe a juvenile staffie pup or something.

― austin!@#$ (austin), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nhc.ed.ac.uk/images/collections/mammals/carnivora/redfoxskull.jpg

― latebloomer (clonefeed), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link

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